How many are PVR'n here?

***Corey*** · 01-31-2006, 05:29 AM

About a year or so I asked this question, but I am sure more have jumped on the bandwagon by now.

PVR, Personal Video Recorder, allows you to record TV shows or watch them on your PC, then play them back on your PC, or out to your TV set.
http://www.pnw4runners.com/tando/pvr.htm

I record all shows this way, as I do not have a VCR anymore, and this is far superior to that anyways.
This is pretty much like TIVO, but free, no subscriptions to pay.

I was having problems with my tuner card, but I think it was my old power supply in the PC.
I replaced the PSU last weekend, and the tuner card seems to be doing better.

However I am yanking it out soon, and my son will be using it at his moms.
I got the Hauppauge WinTV PVR 350, a very good one with hardware MPEG encoder and decoder.
Will be hooking it up this weekend.
The card is far better than the one I have now.

Also I noticed on their website they have a plug-in for it called Wing.
http://www.hauppauge.com/wing/

If you own a video iPod or a PSP, the plug-in will let you record your TV shows to the PC, and the plug-in will convert them over to the correct format for the iPod or PSP.

I have been using 3rd party software called Vidora to do that for both of the handhelds, but this sounds a lot cooler.

Says here on their website:

Quote:

Works with all models of the WinTV-PVR, including the WinTV-PVR-150, WinTV-PVR-250, WinTV-PVR-350 and WinTV-PVR-USB2

Sounds pretty cool, will have to give it a shot.

Another reason why I picked this PVR 350 card is because it works with Titan TV.
www.titantv.com
You schedule your shows online through your web browser, works great.

I could not imagine going back to a VCR again after using a PVR card.
You can also play back DVDs or any video file you have with the tuners software too.

So those of you who PVR, what setup do you have?

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arjan · 01-31-2006, 12:37 PM

I was looking into this. Hey Corey does your cable modem run through your Hauppauge card or do you have splitter just before your modem & computer?

I was worried about the signal getting through to the modem when it has to go throug a splitter.

Cebby · 01-31-2006, 12:57 PM

Here come the questions...

Also, does the tuner card have a remote, so you can control the operation from across the room?

How much space does a 1 hour TV show take up? (I thought I read a post of yours that said 3GB)?

Does it have a commercial skip option (during playback)?

This is looking like a good option for my Mrs. for her soaps...She records two hours a day and will watch a bunch at one time. Right now there are 7 VHS tapes piled on top of our TV/VCR combo unit in the bedroom...

arjan · 01-31-2006, 01:02 PM

A lot of video cards have s-video out. You could hook that up to the TV and with the right software play the video on your TV. The ATI cards have a remote which goes right through the walls apperently.
The size depends if the capture card has an internal MPEG encoder, or it stores it as raw video. The MPEG versions don't use much space at all, as TV resolution is quite low to begin with.

***Corey*** · 01-31-2006, 01:08 PM

Just like this.
The top cable is from the wall outlet, and the bottom two cables is one for the cable modem, and the other one for the tuner card.
Works great!

There is no signal loss using a good splitter.
I just checked my Comcast speed the other night after my format, and it was 352 up which I always get, and around 9300 down

I use to get around 6K, but it seems Comcast has upgraded our speed again.
It is sooooooooo fast.

I may leave both cards in if my son does not want my Leadtech one.
Then I will use a second splitter down by the two cards, and have a line going to each.
This way I can record two shows at once.
Sometimes I want to, but have not been able to do so.

I use to do that when the VCR still worked.
I have to record all primetime shows when I am in bed, as I get up a little past 2 am, so I turn in pretty early.

Ahhhhhh, just caught your post Cebby as I was previewing this before posting it.

Quote:

Do you have to watch the shows on the computer or can you watch them on a regular TV set?

Mike, see my PVR page I linked above.
All the info is there to watch your shows back on your TV set, as I have links to the cables you need to buy.
Most vid cards these days have TV out, which you use the cables for.
If not, the new card I just got, the WinTV PVR 350 has its own TV out and includes short cables that you buy extensions for at Radio Shack, and they go to your TVs aux. input, the same place as the TV out cables go from a vid card that supports it.
Most ATI and NVIDIA gaming cards support this on the back, and have "Clone" mode in the drivers you setup for it.
Anything my PC displays, so does my TV in clone mode.
Games look terrific on a TV set.

Quote:

Also, does the tuner card have a remote, so you can control the programming from across the room?

It comes with a remote.
I hooked up two sensors too.
One by the PC, and one in the living room hooked to the TV.
All you have to buy is a stereo extension cord to run it to the TV, and a Y cable that plugs into the PC, then plug the two sensors into the Y.

Quote:

How much space does a 1 hour TV show take up? (I thought I read a post of yours that said 3GB)?

It varries with the quality settings.
If you use VCD setting, a one hour show can fit on a 700 MB CD.

Quote:

Does it have a commercial skip option?

Not my old card, the new one does by editing software.

Cebby · 01-31-2006, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arjan

A lot of video cards have s-video out. You could hook that up to the TV and with the right software play the video on your TV. The ATI cards have a remote which goes right through the walls apperently.
The size depends if the capture card has an internal MPEG encoder, or it stores it as raw video. The MPEG versions don't use much space at all, as TV resolution is quite low to begin with.

Cool!! Thanks!!

snap-on · 01-31-2006, 01:25 PM

im in the process of building one.

but my vcr with a tape works fairly well to soooo.... its progessing slowly

Crux · 01-31-2006, 02:01 PM

I just got all the parts from newegg today to build a Media Center 2005 pc.
(P4 3.4mhz, 1gb ram, 500gb harddrives, 2 tuner cards (sd & hd), 7800gt vid card, etc).
I've got the hauppage card along with an AverMedia HD card.
I'm going to record all the content on the media center pc in my office, and then stream it to the xbox 360 in my living room.
It'll also see double duty as a gaming rig, which is why i got the beefy vid card.

snap-on · 01-31-2006, 02:06 PM

the core of mine is a hauppage card and a nvidia quadro FX card plenty of horsepower there

***Corey*** · 02-01-2006, 05:27 AM

If anyone is thinking about getting the Hp card I just got, here are a ton of reviews.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...VR+350+reviews

Good one here.
http://www.byopvr.com/Sections+index...e-artid-2.html

I hope to install it by Saturday so I can run it through its paces, and see how it compares the my Leadtek which is about 1/3 the price.

I mentioned that Wing plug-in software earlier in this thread, that sure would be nice.
I re-encoded CSI Miami last night with Vidoras iPod converter so I can watch it at work today at lunch time.

Would be a lot easier to have the tuner do it for me when it is recording it live.

Cebby · 02-03-2006, 06:28 AM

Is there any reason that I HAVE TO get a new video card. I'm perfectly content with what I have. Basically just want to use it to record normal broadcast TV.

FYI - PVR-350 pricing
newegg -> $169
buy.com -> $134 (out of stock currently)

I'll probably add a 250GB seagate drive I saw at Sam's Club for storing shows...

snap-on · 02-03-2006, 07:13 AM

Im still trying to determine if im going to build a DVD server to go with. Id love to be able to rip my collection to HD so i dont have to F with menu's and previews etc that most new dvds wont let you not watch these days. i was looking at something the TB range, rack mounted, Raid 5 hardware controler set up in the basement.

***Corey*** · 02-03-2006, 07:37 AM

Mike, as long as your current vid card has TV (S video jack on the back of it) out, you are fine.

Need your specs, what kind of card?
If is uses ATI or NVIDIA drivers, it will do TV out, you just tell the drivers to do clone mode.

Cebby · 02-03-2006, 09:56 AM

I guess I'm confused. I saw a pic of the back of the PVR-350 card and noticed it had a cable in and cable out. (I believe labeled cable and TV)

Or is the video card for watching programs in the PC? If that's the case, what is the absolute cheapest way (product wise) that I can do this? I probably have an older nice graphics card somewhere in my stuff...

***Corey*** · 02-03-2006, 10:23 AM

Yes, in fact the PVR 350 does do TV out, but it will only show TV out to your TV, and nothing but the live TV show or a recording you play back.

If you also want to see your desktop or play a game on your TV, you need TV out from your main vid card, that is how I do it.
Whatever my PC screen can display, my 27" TV in the other room is showing a clone of it via the vid cards software.

I would first look and see what vid card you have, and if indeed it has TV out you can do it.
I would look in your device manager and see what card it is.

Cebby · 02-03-2006, 12:13 PM

The video is the on-board garbage, so looks like I'll need a card. What's the best bang for the buck? Keep in mind, this is not a gaming PC whatsoever...

***Corey*** · 02-03-2006, 01:20 PM

Look for an ATI 9200, but I am not sure if it has the S vid out.
You can go to www.newegg.com and look through their cards.

I feel ATI has better support for TV out than NVIDIA via the software when you install the latest drivers.

NVIDA based:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130233

Not S vid out, but it still supports the type of cabling I have info on my PVR page.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121525

I am sure a few members may even have one laying around here to unload, as they are 3 to 4 years old, and can not handle todays games at all.
If you do not plan to game, they are a good deal.

***Corey*** · 02-03-2006, 02:02 PM

Mike, some freebie software to tunr your PC into one of these media center PCs.
http://www.gbpvr.com/

Screenies
http://www.gbpvr.com/screenshots.htm

It also works with the HP350 card.

I may try it out, but I need to research more first to see if it works with the remote control or not.

***Corey*** · 02-03-2006, 03:55 PM

Mike, another reason I recommend a tuner card that works with Titan TV.
http://ww2.titantv.com/ttv/grid/aboutpvrwatchfull.aspx

With the web based page, you setup all the recordings right from your web browser.
Piece of cake, and you never have to enter it the hard way into your PVR software that comes with the card.

Cebby · 02-03-2006, 04:20 PM

Great info Corey! Thanks!!

I've spent the last hour or so trying to find a conversion cable to go froom RG59 (std cable connection) to S-Video on these video cards. Is there no-such animal? My TV is older (can't even add a DVD player to it...)

***Corey*** · 02-03-2006, 07:13 PM

Good gosh man

That must be pre '89?

I had a Panasonic from '89 that had all the modern inputs as my fairly new Toshiba one does now.

You might contact that company on my PVR page that sells the cables I use.

I am all pumped about adding in this new card tomorrow, as long as we do not lose power.
The big storm is coming tomorrow.

Cebby · 02-04-2006, 08:48 AM

Actually, the TV is probably circa 1996 or 97. It has an integral VHS VCR in it. There is a pair of RCA's in the front - one for vid, one for audio and then one single RG59 for cable on the back. I guess they thought that was adequate at the time...

***Corey*** · 02-04-2006, 12:35 PM

Comparison between my new Hauppauge WinTV PVR 350 tuner card, and my older Winfast TV2000 XP Deluxe.

The Hauppauge PVR 350
http://hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr350.html

Pros:
Hardware decoder and encoder, takes the work off of the CPU.

Cons:
1. Card is 3 times the money of my Leadtek card.
2. You must run several apps at once if you want to watch live TV ands then schedule a show manually for a recording later.
3. No way to have the PC shut down for the night after the last show has recorded.
4. When using the Titan TV website to schedule your shows, there is also no option to have the PC shut down for the night.
5. When you want to watch a file you recorded earlier, you must hit the record button to bring up another drop down console from the TV watching application.
It does a short recording until you hit stop, then you have to go and delete that file since you do not need it.
Then you click on file in the drop down app to find your recording to play back.
6. The remote wire is smaller than a standard 1/8" mini stereo jack/cable.
I thought I could use the Y connector by my PC and run the new remote wire from them, but it fits to loose.
Not sure if I can find a 50' or so extension cable either so I can also run another remote wire in the living room for the TV set.
Currently I have 2 remote sensors for my Leadtek card.
One by the PC, the other one stuck to the TV set.

The Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Deluxe (being phased out)

Pros:
1. Card can be programmed by both the scheduler and via Titan TVs webpage to shut down the PC after the last recording of the evening.
2. Uses standard 1/8" stereo plugs for the remote control, so I can use a Y splitter cable to run 2 remote sensors.
One by the PC, and another by the TV.
3. All applications are within on app.
No needing to fire up a separate app do to setup a manual recording if you prefer it over Titan TVs web site interface.

Cons:
1. Not hardware supported for the encoders.
Big deal, never missed them.

And the winner is...
The older and cheaper Winfast TV2000 XP Deluxe.
The equivalent to this card they may no longer make is the WinFast TV2000 XP Expert.

I will keep both cards in for now, and perhaps put the Hauppauge card into a Media Center only computer to go out by the TV in the distant future.

PS, one advantage to two cards, both apps can run, so I can record 2 shows at once if need be.
http://www.pnw4runners.com/temp/2_pvr.jpg

Cebby · 02-04-2006, 03:56 PM

OK, so what are the other options that have hardware decoder/encoder on them since the haup seems to be a bust...

***Corey*** · 02-04-2006, 03:57 PM

Do you need hardware encode?
So far I have not, and I can also hook up an old hi 8 mm camcorder just fine to my Leadtek.

I think the hardware thing is overated.

01-31-2006, 12:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
arjan Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mission, British Columbia Posts: 1,558	I was looking into this. Hey Corey does your cable modem run through your Hauppauge card or do you have splitter just before your modem & computer? I was worried about the signal getting through to the modem when it has to go throug a splitter. __________________ 2006 4Runner V8 Sports Edition Red 1997 4Runner 3.4L Bushwacker Flares, 5spd, E locker

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Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Here come the questions... Also, does the tuner card have a remote, so you can control the operation from across the room? How much space does a 1 hour TV show take up? (I thought I read a post of yours that said 3GB)? Does it have a commercial skip option (during playback)? This is looking like a good option for my Mrs. for her soaps...She records two hours a day and will watch a bunch at one time. Right now there are 7 VHS tapes piled on top of our TV/VCR combo unit in the bedroom... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR Last edited by Cebby; 01-31-2006 at 01:01 PM.

01-31-2006, 01:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
arjan Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mission, British Columbia Posts: 1,558	A lot of video cards have s-video out. You could hook that up to the TV and with the right software play the video on your TV. The ATI cards have a remote which goes right through the walls apperently. The size depends if the capture card has an internal MPEG encoder, or it stores it as raw video. The MPEG versions don't use much space at all, as TV resolution is quite low to begin with. __________________ 2006 4Runner V8 Sports Edition Red 1997 4Runner 3.4L Bushwacker Flares, 5spd, E locker

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snap-on Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: STL MO Posts: 2,382	im in the process of building one. but my vcr with a tape works fairly well to soooo.... its progessing slowly __________________ 94 EX cab, 5speed, V6, locked, ARB bar, NWOR headers 92 4runner, auto, V6, OME suspension, Downey headers

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Crux Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Castle Rock, CO Posts: 849	I just got all the parts from newegg today to build a Media Center 2005 pc. (P4 3.4mhz, 1gb ram, 500gb harddrives, 2 tuner cards (sd & hd), 7800gt vid card, etc). I've got the hauppage card along with an AverMedia HD card. I'm going to record all the content on the media center pc in my office, and then stream it to the xbox 360 in my living room. It'll also see double duty as a gaming rig, which is why i got the beefy vid card. __________________ 97 4Runner SR5 Blue - 135k miles, E-Locker, Armorology front/rear bumpers & sliders, BudBuilt skidplate+belly, MTR 285/75/16s, 2" Tundra/OME Lift, 1" 4Crawler Bodylift, 1" diff drop, Black Aluminum Wheels, Cobra CB 04 Land Cruiser Grey - 90k miles, OME Lift, Slee Sliders, 35" Toyo Muds

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snap-on Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: STL MO Posts: 2,382	the core of mine is a hauppage card and a nvidia quadro FX card plenty of horsepower there __________________ 94 EX cab, 5speed, V6, locked, ARB bar, NWOR headers 92 4runner, auto, V6, OME suspension, Downey headers Last edited by snap-on; 01-31-2006 at 02:09 PM.

02-01-2006, 05:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,075	If anyone is thinking about getting the Hp card I just got, here are a ton of reviews. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...VR+350+reviews Good one here. http://www.byopvr.com/Sections+index...e-artid-2.html I hope to install it by Saturday so I can run it through its paces, and see how it compares the my Leadtek which is about 1/3 the price. I mentioned that Wing plug-in software earlier in this thread, that sure would be nice. I re-encoded CSI Miami last night with Vidoras iPod converter so I can watch it at work today at lunch time. Would be a lot easier to have the tuner do it for me when it is recording it live. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

02-03-2006, 06:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Is there any reason that I HAVE TO get a new video card. I'm perfectly content with what I have. Basically just want to use it to record normal broadcast TV. FYI - PVR-350 pricing newegg -> $169 buy.com -> $134 (out of stock currently) I'll probably add a 250GB seagate drive I saw at Sam's Club for storing shows... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

02-03-2006, 07:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
snap-on Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: STL MO Posts: 2,382	Im still trying to determine if im going to build a DVD server to go with. Id love to be able to rip my collection to HD so i dont have to F with menu's and previews etc that most new dvds wont let you not watch these days. i was looking at something the TB range, rack mounted, Raid 5 hardware controler set up in the basement. __________________ 94 EX cab, 5speed, V6, locked, ARB bar, NWOR headers 92 4runner, auto, V6, OME suspension, Downey headers

02-03-2006, 07:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,075	Mike, as long as your current vid card has TV (S video jack on the back of it) out, you are fine. Need your specs, what kind of card? If is uses ATI or NVIDIA drivers, it will do TV out, you just tell the drivers to do clone mode. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

02-03-2006, 09:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	I guess I'm confused. I saw a pic of the back of the PVR-350 card and noticed it had a cable in and cable out. (I believe labeled cable and TV) Or is the video card for watching programs in the PC? If that's the case, what is the absolute cheapest way (product wise) that I can do this? I probably have an older nice graphics card somewhere in my stuff... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

02-03-2006, 10:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,075	Yes, in fact the PVR 350 does do TV out, but it will only show TV out to your TV, and nothing but the live TV show or a recording you play back. If you also want to see your desktop or play a game on your TV, you need TV out from your main vid card, that is how I do it. Whatever my PC screen can display, my 27" TV in the other room is showing a clone of it via the vid cards software. I would first look and see what vid card you have, and if indeed it has TV out you can do it. I would look in your device manager and see what card it is. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

02-03-2006, 12:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	The video is the on-board garbage, so looks like I'll need a card. What's the best bang for the buck? Keep in mind, this is not a gaming PC whatsoever... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

02-03-2006, 01:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,075	Look for an ATI 9200, but I am not sure if it has the S vid out. You can go to www.newegg.com and look through their cards. I feel ATI has better support for TV out than NVIDIA via the software when you install the latest drivers. NVIDA based: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130233 Not S vid out, but it still supports the type of cabling I have info on my PVR page. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121525 I am sure a few members may even have one laying around here to unload, as they are 3 to 4 years old, and can not handle todays games at all. If you do not plan to game, they are a good deal. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

02-03-2006, 02:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,075	Mike, some freebie software to tunr your PC into one of these media center PCs. http://www.gbpvr.com/ Screenies http://www.gbpvr.com/screenshots.htm It also works with the HP350 card. I may try it out, but I need to research more first to see if it works with the remote control or not. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

02-03-2006, 03:55 PM	#19 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,075	Titan TV Mike, another reason I recommend a tuner card that works with Titan TV. http://ww2.titantv.com/ttv/grid/aboutpvrwatchfull.aspx With the web based page, you setup all the recordings right from your web browser. Piece of cake, and you never have to enter it the hard way into your PVR software that comes with the card. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

02-03-2006, 04:20 PM	#20 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Great info Corey! Thanks!! I've spent the last hour or so trying to find a conversion cable to go froom RG59 (std cable connection) to S-Video on these video cards. Is there no-such animal? My TV is older (can't even add a DVD player to it...) __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

02-03-2006, 07:13 PM	#21 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,075	Good gosh man That must be pre '89? I had a Panasonic from '89 that had all the modern inputs as my fairly new Toshiba one does now. You might contact that company on my PVR page that sells the cables I use. I am all pumped about adding in this new card tomorrow, as long as we do not lose power. The big storm is coming tomorrow. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

02-04-2006, 08:48 AM	#22 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Actually, the TV is probably circa 1996 or 97. It has an integral VHS VCR in it. There is a pair of RCA's in the front - one for vid, one for audio and then one single RG59 for cable on the back. I guess they thought that was adequate at the time... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

02-04-2006, 12:35 PM	#23 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,075	Comparison between my new Hauppauge WinTV PVR 350 tuner card, and my older Leadtek Comparison between my new Hauppauge WinTV PVR 350 tuner card, and my older Winfast TV2000 XP Deluxe. The Hauppauge PVR 350 http://hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr350.html Pros: Hardware decoder and encoder, takes the work off of the CPU. Cons: 1. Card is 3 times the money of my Leadtek card. 2. You must run several apps at once if you want to watch live TV ands then schedule a show manually for a recording later. 3. No way to have the PC shut down for the night after the last show has recorded. 4. When using the Titan TV website to schedule your shows, there is also no option to have the PC shut down for the night. 5. When you want to watch a file you recorded earlier, you must hit the record button to bring up another drop down console from the TV watching application. It does a short recording until you hit stop, then you have to go and delete that file since you do not need it. Then you click on file in the drop down app to find your recording to play back. 6. The remote wire is smaller than a standard 1/8" mini stereo jack/cable. I thought I could use the Y connector by my PC and run the new remote wire from them, but it fits to loose. Not sure if I can find a 50' or so extension cable either so I can also run another remote wire in the living room for the TV set. Currently I have 2 remote sensors for my Leadtek card. One by the PC, the other one stuck to the TV set. The Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Deluxe (being phased out) Pros: 1. Card can be programmed by both the scheduler and via Titan TVs webpage to shut down the PC after the last recording of the evening. 2. Uses standard 1/8" stereo plugs for the remote control, so I can use a Y splitter cable to run 2 remote sensors. One by the PC, and another by the TV. 3. All applications are within on app. No needing to fire up a separate app do to setup a manual recording if you prefer it over Titan TVs web site interface. Cons: 1. Not hardware supported for the encoders. Big deal, never missed them. And the winner is... The older and cheaper Winfast TV2000 XP Deluxe. The equivalent to this card they may no longer make is the WinFast TV2000 XP Expert. I will keep both cards in for now, and perhaps put the Hauppauge card into a Media Center only computer to go out by the TV in the distant future. PS, one advantage to two cards, both apps can run, so I can record 2 shows at once if need be. http://www.pnw4runners.com/temp/2_pvr.jpg __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

02-04-2006, 03:56 PM	#24 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	OK, so what are the other options that have hardware decoder/encoder on them since the haup seems to be a bust... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

02-04-2006, 03:57 PM	#25 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,075	Do you need hardware encode? So far I have not, and I can also hook up an old hi 8 mm camcorder just fine to my Leadtek. I think the hardware thing is overated. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

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