Home networking XP with Vista

***Corey*** · 01-04-2008, 06:09 PM

Good gosh, I am impressed with Vista.

Since I built a new gaming PC yesterweek, I needed to install my printer tonight.
Then I decided to setup a home network with the new PC being the main one.

Using the home networking wizard in the Control Panel, I set it up to have the shared folder under My Computer, and to share my HP 1600 with my old PC (have not set that one up yet) and my new Dell Inspiron 1720 laptop that I just got.

My main PC asked for my XP disc that I would have to insert to copy a few files to mine, and I would have to insert it into every other PC to that I add to the network.

When it came time to work on the Vista rig, I opened up the networking area and it already showed my new desktop PC and the HP 1600

I thought I would have to use the XP disc and also add in the workgroup name I had setup on the main PC.

Not so again, Vista did it all for me without doing anything.
This is too weird.

I made the HP 1600 the default printer to print to from the laptop, and I can see the shared folder too on my gaming rig.

I think I am going to like Vista.
I am typing this from the living room on my lap in the recliner while watching the back to back Stargate Atlantis episodes that are on the sci-fi channel right now.

This is cool, no more getting up during commercials to use the PC in the other room.
It will take awhile to get use to typing on a smaller keyboard, and I hate touchpads.
I am cheating, I am using a small Logitech USB mouse, the V220.
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mi...ter=368&sort=0

My son has the nicer VX Revolution that I got for his laptop, as he had a Microsoft one, but it quit working.

Anyone else using Vista, and do you like it?
I hear it is not the best for a gaming platform, hence why I bought another copy of XP Pro for the new PC I just built.

Avsfreak1234 · 01-04-2008, 06:43 PM

I hate vista. nothing is like it used to be. your lucky if the network worked on a vista machine cuz when I have to add a comp with vista to the network I have at work it ALWAYS sees the other computers and devices but rarely shares what its supposed to without adjusting a few settings that you can only get to the bass akwards way.

Maybe it will work out better for you!

***Corey*** · 01-04-2008, 07:08 PM

Seems to be working out just fine.
What I would like to know is how did it know the name of my new gaming PC and the printer, as I did not have to run a wizard on the Vista laptop at all.

It just saw everything setup in the other room as soon as I opened up the network folder to view other PCs.

I have heard some horror stores about Vista, hopefully it will work out for me.
Dell did not give me the option to have XP on this laptop.
Plus I was curious about Vista.

89macrunner · 01-04-2008, 08:02 PM

vista has some nice features but its pretty slow compared to xp.

file transfers are like 30% faster or something like that...i dont get it

i love OS X

dlbrunner · 01-04-2008, 08:39 PM

I just got a HP laptop, and it has vista. So far I likey. I got a wireless card from my cell people, so I am wireless all over

I ha real issues transferring files/pictures. I tunes doubled my library for some reason

All in all, it was a smooth process. My only complaints are with the shutdown, sometimes vista does not want to close. Also after I open the machine, sometimes it takes opening and closing the wireless a few times to get all hooked up.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 01-04-2008, 09:47 PM

i love vista, but the only thing i hate about it is the fact that it searches for 'illegal' or 'unlicensed' software. this includes music. when i tried vista on my old comp, i had the whole adobe suite.. PS, IR, Premiere, etc, plus about 100 hours of music, all got deleted. pissed me off, lol. good luck with it though, let me know if you experience that problem

BT17R · 01-05-2008, 11:08 AM

Sounds like a nice setup. Dell sent a new replacement laptop for my 1520 with a screen hum. The new one was quiet except it had a noisy hard drive! So, since I had two for a couple days, I swapped hard drives (Fujitsu is quiet, Seagate was noisy) and DVD burners to get a Toshiba instead of no-name, and have a completely silent laptop now.

I'm using the n-spec wirless in the house and it works great @ 54 Mbps, can go to 250 Mbps with the new Verizon fiber optic coming soon. It's also long range and detected a couple other wireless networks somewhere around here, one unsecured but I'm not into snooping.

I'm using a Logitech Trackman Wheel (trackball) that I set on the couch arm...works great, much better than the touchpad and of course doesn't move like a mouse.

There's new service packs for XP and Vista coming this month. The XP pack is supposed to make it even faster than Vista w/SP1.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 01-05-2008, 11:11 AM

wait, BT17R, arent you the guy who made his rear frame out of sign post material?

BT17R · 01-05-2008, 12:05 PM

?
Not me, but I'd like to laugh at the pics!

***Corey*** · 01-05-2008, 12:55 PM

Glad your new laptop is working out for you Bob.

One thing I find though with it is in the network icon that you click on the desktop my gaming PC does not show up all the time.

Right now the only PC listed under the network screen is the Dell.

Then sometimes later it will say Corey-Antec the name of the gaming PC I built.
I can not figure out what that is.

Also I installed the Yahoo Widgets this morning, as I run it on all my PCs for the weather widget.

It is crashing when you come into Windows Vista, and shuts down.
Sometimes it works.

Just got back from my friends to show him my laptop, and it worked perfectly over there.
Come back here and Yahoo Widgets shuts down.
I saved the error text, I will submit it to Yahoo.

Oh, I am not into hijacking other wireless setups either, but when I took out the laptop over there he asked me if I needed a cat 5 cable to hook up to his router.
I told him to hang on a second...

I scanned the wireless network and it found 5 connections in his neighborhood, 3 were unsecured.

Connected to one of them right away at 6 megabits per second, which is darn fast.

People really need to setup a password when they create a wireless network in their home.

24Runna · 01-05-2008, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

wait, BT17R, arent you the guy who made his rear frame out of sign post material?

Lol. I remember that guy.

I recently picked up a new laptop on BF, and gave my Dell to my mom. It of course has Vista, but I might switch back to XP. Having some driver troubles.

111db · 01-06-2008, 01:05 PM

I recently set up two new Vista computers at the office network linked with 3 XP computers. They link up ok but our huge copier/printer machine doesn't support Vista and Sharp isn't planning to release updated drivers. So we had to buy an additional printer for the Vista computers... kinda stupid.

Also, we're running some blueprint takeoff software on one and CAD on the other... they're really slow.

***Corey*** · 01-06-2008, 02:48 PM

So the Vista ones will not print over to the copier/printer the XP PCs use?

Just picked up the new Maximum PC magazine this morning, there is a section devoted to tweaking Vista.

Have only skimmed it, but basically they say to go back to XP

They also show you how to setup a dual boot with XP and Vista.

bigt · 01-06-2008, 03:06 PM

osx... o stopped using pcs when me came out

111db · 01-06-2008, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey

So the Vista ones will not print over to the copier/printer the XP PCs use?

Exactly. Although, I think I'm more irritated at Sharp than MS for this particular problem.

My computer is running XP so I haven't had much time to mess around with Vista. My personal opinion is that XP was pretty good (as pc's go) so why mess with it? $$$ was the only good answer I could come up with. Only a matter of time until nobody supports XP anymore...

89macrunner · 01-06-2008, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey

Glad your new laptop is working out for you Bob.

One thing I find though with it is in the network icon that you click on the desktop my gaming PC does not show up all the time.

Right now the only PC listed under the network screen is the Dell.

Then sometimes later it will say Corey-Antec the name of the gaming PC I built.
I can not figure out what that is.

Also I installed the Yahoo Widgets this morning, as I run it on all my PCs for the weather widget.

It is crashing when you come into Windows Vista, and shuts down.
Sometimes it works.

Just got back from my friends to show him my laptop, and it worked perfectly over there.
Come back here and Yahoo Widgets shuts down.
I saved the error text, I will submit it to Yahoo.

Oh, I am not into hijacking other wireless setups either, but when I took out the laptop over there he asked me if I needed a cat 5 cable to hook up to his router.
I told him to hang on a second...

I scanned the wireless network and it found 5 connections in his neighborhood, 3 were unsecured.

Connected to one of them right away at 6 megabits per second, which is darn fast.

People really need to setup a password when they create a wireless network in their home.

Corey ditch the yahoo widgets and just use windows sidebar.

Or just ditch them all together and get an igoogle homepage.
They both eat up resources on your computer.

Also, you need to have printer drives installed on your vista machine if you want to share the printer with your desktop.

Your computers probably aren't in the same workgroup. Make sure you make them in the same workgroup..

Overall windows vista blows the big one compared to XP. Maybe in a few years it will get better. It sucks in everyplace thats important.

I HATE vista. Ive hated it since it came out. If i didnt get it for free I wouldnt be using it on my PC. Its not worth it for me to pay for XP Pro...

linuxrunner · 01-06-2008, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

i love vista, but the only thing i hate about it is the fact that it searches for 'illegal' or 'unlicensed' software. this includes music. when i tried vista on my old comp, i had the whole adobe suite.. PS, IR, Premiere, etc, plus about 100 hours of music, all got deleted. pissed me off, lol. good luck with it though, let me know if you experience that problem

Sorry, but i find this really funny. This is how i read your post...

I don't like vista because I stole $2,000 worth of software and music and it got deleated... and now it is totally unreplaceable, and i don't have the money to steal it again.

I love vista, not that i use it, just that vista is forceing hardware companys to create faster hardware for less to make up for the slow speed. Also i have noticed that intergrated video is harder to find because many flavors of vista cannot run on such low video componants.

All in all, good times for me. And besides in 3 years when most new setups have 4 quad core processors and 8 gigs of some new freaky fast memory and sata drives that can run at 9 gigs a second, vista (service pack 12

) will seem quite fast... and those who are running xp will not be able to take advantage of any of these new hardware developments.

***Corey*** · 01-07-2008, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89macrunner

Corey ditch the yahoo widgets and just use windows sidebar.

Or just ditch them all together and get an igoogle homepage.
They both eat up resources on your computer.

Also, you need to have printer drives installed on your vista machine if you want to share the printer with your desktop.

Your computers probably aren't in the same workgroup. Make sure you make them in the same workgroup..

Overall windows vista blows the big one compared to XP. Maybe in a few years it will get better. It sucks in everyplace thats important.

I HATE vista. Ive hated it since it came out. If i didnt get it for free I wouldnt be using it on my PC. Its not worth it for me to pay for XP Pro...

Yeah, I am going to tinker with Vista when I get time, they explain how to change the usergroup name to the one the XP rig is in.

Vista does see the other PC though and lists the user group (YOTATECH

)
Plus I can print from the Vista laptop to the HP printer which is hooked up to the XP rig.

Funny how the Yahoo Widgets worked for awhile, but now crashes upon startup.

I will leave it on my other PCs, but take it off of this one.
This did have a Windows Sidebar, but I think it was part of a Google Desktop tha

01-04-2008, 06:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 23,774	Home networking XP with Vista Good gosh, I am impressed with Vista. Since I built a new gaming PC yesterweek, I needed to install my printer tonight. Then I decided to setup a home network with the new PC being the main one. Using the home networking wizard in the Control Panel, I set it up to have the shared folder under My Computer, and to share my HP 1600 with my old PC (have not set that one up yet) and my new Dell Inspiron 1720 laptop that I just got. My main PC asked for my XP disc that I would have to insert to copy a few files to mine, and I would have to insert it into every other PC to that I add to the network. When it came time to work on the Vista rig, I opened up the networking area and it already showed my new desktop PC and the HP 1600 I thought I would have to use the XP disc and also add in the workgroup name I had setup on the main PC. Not so again, Vista did it all for me without doing anything. This is too weird. I made the HP 1600 the default printer to print to from the laptop, and I can see the shared folder too on my gaming rig. I think I am going to like Vista. I am typing this from the living room on my lap in the recliner while watching the back to back Stargate Atlantis episodes that are on the sci-fi channel right now. This is cool, no more getting up during commercials to use the PC in the other room. It will take awhile to get use to typing on a smaller keyboard, and I hate touchpads. I am cheating, I am using a small Logitech USB mouse, the V220. http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mi...ter=368&sort=0 My son has the nicer VX Revolution that I got for his laptop, as he had a Microsoft one, but it quit working. Anyone else using Vista, and do you like it? I hear it is not the best for a gaming platform, hence why I bought another copy of XP Pro for the new PC I just built. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser ARB bumper, Warn XD9000, OME lift, roof top tent, so much more, see my website & buildup thread PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge

01-04-2008, 06:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
Avsfreak1234 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Estes Park Co Posts: 430	I hate vista. nothing is like it used to be. your lucky if the network worked on a vista machine cuz when I have to add a comp with vista to the network I have at work it ALWAYS sees the other computers and devices but rarely shares what its supposed to without adjusting a few settings that you can only get to the bass akwards way. Maybe it will work out better for you! __________________ My Rides 98 Taco 4X4 2.7 2003 Gary Fisher Sugar Cessna 172...not really mine

01-04-2008, 07:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 23,774	Seems to be working out just fine. What I would like to know is how did it know the name of my new gaming PC and the printer, as I did not have to run a wizard on the Vista laptop at all. It just saw everything setup in the other room as soon as I opened up the network folder to view other PCs. I have heard some horror stores about Vista, hopefully it will work out for me. Dell did not give me the option to have XP on this laptop. Plus I was curious about Vista. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser ARB bumper, Warn XD9000, OME lift, roof top tent, so much more, see my website & buildup thread PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge

01-04-2008, 08:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
89macrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 2,067	vista has some nice features but its pretty slow compared to xp. file transfers are like 30% faster or something like that...i dont get it i love OS X __________________ Daily Driver: 2007 Windsor "The Hour" Fixed Gear 250 miles Crouch Rocket 2005 Felt F80 1100mi (purchased new in Jan 2008) 2006 Mazda3 GT 2000 TRD Tacoma..Bought back and crushed 1988 4Runner SR5 V6 5 speed..sold

01-04-2008, 08:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
dlbrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,118	I just got a HP laptop, and it has vista. So far I likey. I got a wireless card from my cell people, so I am wireless all over I ha real issues transferring files/pictures. I tunes doubled my library for some reason All in all, it was a smooth process. My only complaints are with the shutdown, sometimes vista does not want to close. Also after I open the machine, sometimes it takes opening and closing the wireless a few times to get all hooked up. __________________ Duncan -------------------------------------------------- Current: 95 4X4 SR5 V6, Yakima tracks/rack installed. Aisin hubs. Sonoran Steel IFS Truss. Cobra CB(finally!) Desired: 66 FJ45 shorty EX's: 89 4X4 V6 Downey'd 72 FJ40 W 350/SM465 powertrax, "Billy"

01-04-2008, 09:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 4,103	i love vista, but the only thing i hate about it is the fact that it searches for 'illegal' or 'unlicensed' software. this includes music. when i tried vista on my old comp, i had the whole adobe suite.. PS, IR, Premiere, etc, plus about 100 hours of music, all got deleted. pissed me off, lol. good luck with it though, let me know if you experience that problem __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22RE 258,000 miles on original motor pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

01-05-2008, 11:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
BT17R Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Da Gorge, Oregon Posts: 5,140	Sounds like a nice setup. Dell sent a new replacement laptop for my 1520 with a screen hum. The new one was quiet except it had a noisy hard drive! So, since I had two for a couple days, I swapped hard drives (Fujitsu is quiet, Seagate was noisy) and DVD burners to get a Toshiba instead of no-name, and have a completely silent laptop now. I'm using the n-spec wirless in the house and it works great @ 54 Mbps, can go to 250 Mbps with the new Verizon fiber optic coming soon. It's also long range and detected a couple other wireless networks somewhere around here, one unsecured but I'm not into snooping. I'm using a Logitech Trackman Wheel (trackball) that I set on the couch arm...works great, much better than the touchpad and of course doesn't move like a mouse. There's new service packs for XP and Vista coming this month. The XP pack is supposed to make it even faster than Vista w/SP1. __________________ '07 FJ TRD SE 6M/T 100% Black '09 4R SR5 TE 5A/T Shadow Mica--Inbound

01-05-2008, 11:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 4,103	wait, BT17R, arent you the guy who made his rear frame out of sign post material? __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22RE 258,000 miles on original motor pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

01-05-2008, 12:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
BT17R Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Da Gorge, Oregon Posts: 5,140	? Not me, but I'd like to laugh at the pics! __________________ '07 FJ TRD SE 6M/T 100% Black '09 4R SR5 TE 5A/T Shadow Mica--Inbound

01-05-2008, 12:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 23,774	Glad your new laptop is working out for you Bob. One thing I find though with it is in the network icon that you click on the desktop my gaming PC does not show up all the time. Right now the only PC listed under the network screen is the Dell. Then sometimes later it will say Corey-Antec the name of the gaming PC I built. I can not figure out what that is. Also I installed the Yahoo Widgets this morning, as I run it on all my PCs for the weather widget. It is crashing when you come into Windows Vista, and shuts down. Sometimes it works. Just got back from my friends to show him my laptop, and it worked perfectly over there. Come back here and Yahoo Widgets shuts down. I saved the error text, I will submit it to Yahoo. Oh, I am not into hijacking other wireless setups either, but when I took out the laptop over there he asked me if I needed a cat 5 cable to hook up to his router. I told him to hang on a second... I scanned the wireless network and it found 5 connections in his neighborhood, 3 were unsecured. Connected to one of them right away at 6 megabits per second, which is darn fast. People really need to setup a password when they create a wireless network in their home. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser ARB bumper, Warn XD9000, OME lift, roof top tent, so much more, see my website & buildup thread PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge

01-06-2008, 01:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
111db Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 1,195	I recently set up two new Vista computers at the office network linked with 3 XP computers. They link up ok but our huge copier/printer machine doesn't support Vista and Sharp isn't planning to release updated drivers. So we had to buy an additional printer for the Vista computers... kinda stupid. Also, we're running some blueprint takeoff software on one and CAD on the other... they're really slow. __________________ Jon *97 4Runner 3.4 4.88's * ARB Lockers F/R * ARB compressor * Sonoran Steel numba 1 * 285 BFG AT/KO * TJM 17 * BudBuilt Skids * Stubbs Sliders & BBQ sauce * Irbis out back * Various Electronic Gadgets**

01-06-2008, 02:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 23,774	So the Vista ones will not print over to the copier/printer the XP PCs use? Just picked up the new Maximum PC magazine this morning, there is a section devoted to tweaking Vista. Have only skimmed it, but basically they say to go back to XP They also show you how to setup a dual boot with XP and Vista. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser ARB bumper, Warn XD9000, OME lift, roof top tent, so much more, see my website & buildup thread PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge

01-06-2008, 03:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
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