Home Network

justinh · 03-26-2006, 07:57 PM

I need some help as I am obviously missing something. I want to set-up a home network so we can access files off of my desktop and print using our Laptop. I will take you through the hardware i currently have and how it is currently set-up and you can tell me what I am doing wrong.

DSL Modem-->Linksys Wireless Broadband Router-->My Desktop connects to this Router via firewire and my wife's laptop via the wireless PCMCIA card that came with the router.

I ran the "Setup a wireless network for a home or small office" in Windows and have the same settings transferred to both computers however I can't get the computer to show up on "View Workgroup Computers" on my PC and vice versa with my desktop on the Laptop.

What gives?

I also would like to share my printer but have already selected it as shared under its properties tab.

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Churnd · 03-27-2006, 06:17 AM

Are you sure your'e connected via firewire? I've yet to see a router that accepts a firewire connection. Maybe you mean a Cat5 cable?

Usually from my experience, 90% of the reason home networks don't work are firewall issues. Do you have a software firewall running? If so, you'll need to open the necessary ports for sharing.

All you really have to do to set up a network is to put both computers on the same workgroup. You can check this by right clicking My Computer, then Properties, then Computer Name. Click the "Change" to see which workgroup you're on and change it if needed. The actual computer name itself doesn't matter as long as it's not something extremely long. Once you do that and reboot if necessary, you can select which folders and printers you want to share.

This site has a wealth of information you could use to read up more on this topic: www.ezlan.net.

justinh · 03-27-2006, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Churnd

Are you sure your'e connected via firewire? I've yet to see a router that accepts a firewire connection. Maybe you mean a Cat5 cable?

Usually from my experience, 90% of the reason home networks don't work are firewall issues. Do you have a software firewall running? If so, you'll need to open the necessary ports for sharing.

All you really have to do to set up a network is to put both computers on the same workgroup. You can check this by right clicking My Computer, then Properties, then Computer Name. Click the "Change" to see which workgroup you're on and change it if needed. The actual computer name itself doesn't matter as long as it's not something extremely long. Once you do that and reboot if necessary, you can select which folders and printers you want to share.

This site has a wealth of information you could use to read up more on this topic: www.ezlan.net.

thanks for catching my slip-up on the cables. I am just used to telling customers they need firewire cables all day long at work that it is fried into my brain. I have it now where both computers recognize but i am getting an error stating that the computers are not accessible and I need to contact my network administrator.

Churnd · 03-27-2006, 07:50 AM

Something is blocking communication between the computers. If you set up two XP machines and put them on the same workgroup, they will see each other straight out of the box. It doesn't take much at all to make this happen. So, software firewall? Antivirus?

Jimmeh · 03-27-2006, 07:51 AM

Make sure your windows firewall is off when you are trying to do any networking, and if you are using an antivirus, make sure you have its firewall off as well (Norton is a real crappy one when it comes to that, since you have to go through a lot of stuff just to find the firewall.) After you do all that, you should reboot your machines, and it should work right after that.

justinh · 03-27-2006, 08:32 AM

both computers are running zone alarm and the windows firewall. i guess i will just have to play around with it some more tonight when i get home from work. they do recognize each other now (atleast they both show up under workgroup computers) i just can't access either one from the other computer.

Churnd · 03-27-2006, 10:23 AM

Turn off ZoneAlarm and see if it works. I'm betting the bank it will. ZoneAlarm can be configured to open the necessary ports, but we'll take it one step at a time.

kmcc78240 · 03-27-2006, 11:30 AM

Call Linksys if all else fails or use the chat for help, that is what I ended up doing. be sure to encrypt and turn on security in the router.

support website
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...VisitorWrapper

justinh · 03-27-2006, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmcc78240

Call Linksys if all else fails or use the chat for help, that is what I ended up doing. be sure to encrypt and turn on security in the router.

support website
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...VisitorWrapper

My internet network works fine, I don't think that Linksys will be able to help with the problems i am having.

**Tofer** · 03-27-2006, 12:48 PM

I have my computer set up the same way. i have my 2 external hard drives connected to my desktop which are then shared so i can access the drives wirelessly anyhwere in the house. i then have the printer hooked up to another computer also shared.

one thing you can try is enter the IP address directly. goto start > Run > type "cmd" (without the " "s) this will open a dos window, then type ipconfig <enter> this will show you the IP address. since you are going through the router it probably will be a 192.168.x.x (where x is a number between 0 and 255) once you get the IP of the desktop, using the laptop open My Computer and in the address bar type \\192.168.x.x (assuming your internal IP address is 192.168. something) this should open a window that will show "shared printers" "shared pictures" shared etc, open the printers folder and double click on the printer. of couse you need to have the printer shared for it show up. but it will then add the shared printer to the laptop's printers, open printers/faxes and make sure its set as the default printer.

you then can now add a network drive for the folders/ drives you want to access on the desktop from the laptop. do this by clicking on my computer, then goto tools > Map Network Drive. follow the set up wizard to get it set up.

hope this helped, if you have any more questions feel free to PM me or send me an message on AIM.

***midiwall*** · 03-27-2006, 12:52 PM

{Chris just posted up the same basic question(s). I'm gonna post anyway 'cause of the example text}

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinh

My internet network works fine, I don't think that Linksys will be able to help with the problems i am having.

Did you try turing off ZoneAlarm?

Past that... with the router in place, can both the desktop and laptop reach the Internet?

If so... (assuming that we're talking about Windows XP) from each machine, do this:

Start button
"Run"
"cmd" {enter}
ipconfig /all {enter}

you'll get something like:

Code:

c:\>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : xxxx
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : ???.com
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ???.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : ???.com
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-xx-D3-FC-xx-E8
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xx.xx.xxx
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.252.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xx.xx.xxx
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xx.xx.xxx
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xx.xx.xxx
                                            xxx.xx.xx.xxx
        Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : xxx.xx.xx.xxx
        Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : xxx.xx.xx.xxx
                                            xxx.xx.xx.xxx
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, March 27, 2006 4:39:18 AM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:39:18 AM

Can you cut & paste up the results you get from both the desktop and laptop?

Then... While you're still at the command prompt:

"net config workstation" {enter}

you'll get something like:

Code:

c:\>net config workstation
Computer name                        \\xxxxxxxxx
Full Computer name                   xxxxx.com
User name                            xxxxx

Workstation active on
        NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
        NetBT_Tcpip_{E31F24E6-BB43-4856-BFE4-9BA3DB8B5D89} (0013D3FCDFE8)

Software version                     Windows 2002

Workstation domain                   xxxxxx
Workstation Domain DNS Name          xxxxxx.com
Logon domain                         xxxxxx

Again, please post the results from each machine.

You can cut & paste out of the command window - you'll want to set "quick edit" mode on the window:

Right click on the title bar (red circled area):
Click PROPERTIES
Check "QuickEdit Mode"
Click OK
Select "Save... for future"
Click OK

Once you set that, then you can use the mouse to highlight the window text, then CTRL-C to copy, switch to a message here, and CTRL-V to paste.

jdickerson · 03-27-2006, 01:40 PM

What OS are both pcs running? The guys are on the right path with the firewall and IP questions, once you have established that both pcs can ping each other, then it is going to turn into a rights/permissions issue. Post the results as midiwall suggests and we will have you running in no time.

justinh · 03-27-2006, 02:12 PM

thanks for all of the advice. when i get home i will try turning the zone alarm off and see if that works. fyi, they are both running XP Home. Like i said, neither computer has any problem connecting to the internet, this is the second wireless internet network i have set-up and neither has had any problems in the last 3 years. The whole purpose for this was so that my wife can conveniently print from her laptop instead of unplugging the printer from the desktop and plugging it into the laptop and work on the same files from either computer.

***midiwall*** · 03-27-2006, 02:34 PM

Okay, then I'll shortcut the verbose examples.

Check to be sure that both machines are on the same workgroup. Control Panel | System | Computer Name | Change. Be sure that "workgroup" is checked and that both machines are set the same. (Chris pointed this out earlier)

Once you know the machine names, and that they're in the same workgroup, you can validate WINS by pinging them with the names... From a prompt, ping {machinename} (no brackets). If you don't get a response __FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS__ then you have a WINS issue that needs to be resolved. That's why one machine can't see the other.

You can also try to bypass name resolution... Get the IP's for both machines, then from a prompt: net view xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx That should give you a list of shares on each machine, (storage or printer). If it doesn't, then you have a basic comm issue _between_ the machines.

Given that you can get outside, then we can pretty much assume that both machines are running DHCP and that they're on the same subnet.

Like JD said - if you can ping each machine from the other (and I'll toss in that you need it to work by name) then you'll looking at a permissions issue. But, XP Home doesn't have a lot of the options (read, "potential for trouble") that XP Pro does, so this shouldn't be the problem.

And, that would bring us back to ZoneAlarm.

...which btw, you don't need. I HATE software firewalls. argh.

**Tofer** · 03-27-2006, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midiwall

And, that would bring us back to ZoneAlarm.

...which btw, you don't need. I HATE software firewalls. argh.

agreed. most people think they need one.. but really they dont. you only need a firewall if you are acting as a server.

***midiwall*** · 03-27-2006, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToferUOP

agreed. most people think they need one.. but really they dont. you only need a firewall if you are acting as a server.

Even then... I don't want my CPU cycles spent looking at packets - in fact I don't want the packets to get anywhere near the TCP stack.

Running a nice little Linksys/Netgear box will handle most of the general user's firewalling needs. If not, then move on up to Cisco or somesuch. But don't let rogue packets contaminate your network - at all!

Churnd · 03-27-2006, 03:14 PM

I'm with Mark... the only time I ever recommend a software firewall is when the user is on dialup, which I hate to do because dialup is slow enough as it is and a firewall is only gonna slow things down a little more. But if they insist on dialup (or can't get anything else), then it's a very necessary pain.

justinh · 03-27-2006, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midiwall

Okay, then I'll shortcut the verbose examples.

Check to be sure that both machines are on the same workgroup. Control Panel | System | Computer Name | Change. Be sure that "workgroup" is checked and that both machines are set the same. (Chris pointed this out earlier)

Once you know the machine names, and that they're in the same workgroup, you can validate WINS by pinging them with the names... From a prompt, ping {machinename} (no brackets). If you don't get a response __FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS__ then you have a WINS issue that needs to be resolved. That's why one machine can't see the other.

You can also try to bypass name resolution... Get the IP's for both machines, then from a prompt: net view xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx That should give you a list of shares on each machine, (storage or printer). If it doesn't, then you have a basic comm issue _between_ the machines.

Given that you can get outside, then we can pretty much assume that both machines are running DHCP and that they're on the same subnet.

Like JD said - if you can ping each machine from the other (and I'll toss in that you need it to work by name) then you'll looking at a permissions issue. But, XP Home doesn't have a lot of the options (read, "potential for trouble") that XP Pro does, so this shouldn't be the problem.

And, that would bring us back to ZoneAlarm.

...which btw, you don't need. I HATE software firewalls. argh.

still not home yet, i have to kill a couple classes here at school. quick question though that might save me some time later on. When i got to "view workgroup computers" on either computer both computers show up. I just get the error stating that "I can't access the network device." However, I am not sure that this means they are seeing each other or if this is a result of me using the USB option to set-up the network (main computer, then additional computers, then back to main) so I wasn't srue if that flashed the profile on to the disc and made it available when it actually isn't. Sounds like Zonealarm is my best/quickest trial. I must say, I have been using it for years at the recommendation of a relative and can't really complain about it, but i can't really praise it either. All i know is that i have had cable or dsl for 6 years now and have never been hacked or got a virus.

jdickerson · 03-27-2006, 04:49 PM

My 2 pennies, midiwall seems to know his stuff along with churnd, I might debate software firewall versus hardware (way too long a discussion), XP home is somewhat difficult to deal with sometimes, I would suggest that the same user accounts exist on both pcs, share the printer on the main computer, my guess from what you have provided is that ZA is blocking the print traffic, you will probably disable Zone Alarm and everything will work like a champ. If not, then it is very likely a authority issue, which means granting access to the other computers logged in user account will clear up the issue. My kids are ready for bed, I can help tommorrow if need be. The guys on this forum seem to be as good with CPUs as they are with Toyotas so I'm guessing this will be solved by morning.

***midiwall*** · 03-27-2006, 07:16 PM

(thanks for the confidence JD!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinh

quick question though that might save me some time later on. When i got to "view workgroup computers" on either computer both computers show up. I just get the error stating that "I can't access the network device."

Okay, this means that the browse info is okay, so WINS is working.

or... ???

Quote:

However, I am not sure that this means they are seeing each other or if this is a result of me using the USB option to set-up the network (main computer, then additional computers, then back to main) so I wasn't srue if that flashed the profile on to the disc and made it available when it actually isn't.

Ummm.. that's REALLY confusing.

I know you said that you've done this before, but I truely believe that MS has made network installs too difficult with their "configure wireless connection" crap. It's just ... argh.

I'll be installing my upteenth wireless network tomorrow night. This is what I'm looking to do:

Unpack Linksys router and power it up
Disconnect cable modem from desktop
Connect Linksys to cable modem
Connect Desktop to port on Linksys
Verify desktop configured for DHCP
Note name of workgroup while I'm in the general area
Hit shell prompt, "ipconfig /release", "ipconfig /renew". Shouldn't HAVE to do this, but I like knowing it actually happened.
Note that IP address was assigned
ping cnn.com (I don't care about getting packets, I just wanna see DNS work)
Load browser, hit CNN.com

Done with desktop

Control Panel | Printers
Right click on default, "Sharing", "Share this printer", enter name, OK.

Done with printer

From browser, hit 192.168.1.1 (router config)
Set SSID, set WEP (yeah, I know), set channel if possible

Done with router

Laptop will be wireless - it's already been known to work on another network.

Hit Control Panel | System | Computer Name | Change
Set workgroup to be same as desktop
Load laptop's wireless setup (usually an icon in systray)
"Discover networks" or some such
Find the new network's SSID
Click - enter WEP password
Should be connected
START - Run - "\\{desktop name}", should see shares.
Right click on printer
"Map network device" (I think that's the pick)
Printer should install

Done-done.

I think it'll take me 20 minutes, most of that time will be waiting for the Linksys to power up and the machines to reboot if I have to change a workgroup name ("shouldn't have to..."

).

My point here is that I've NEVER used that Wireless Network Setup Wizard thing... I don't get it. I think it confuses more crap than it solves.

USB? Flashed a profile? A disc? eeek.

**Tofer** · 03-27-2006, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midiwall

From browser, hit 192.168.1.1 (router config)

i know it might be different for linksys but my D-Link is 192.168.0.1 and i thought that was the standard.

justinh · 03-27-2006, 08:19 PM

C:\Documents and Settings\Darlene>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domain.invalid
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

C:\Documents and Settings\Darlene>ping Loft
Ping request could not find host Loft. Please check the name and try again.

C:\Documents and Settings\Darlene>net view 192.168.1.101
Shared resources at 192.168.1.101

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Epson Print EPSON Stylus CX5400
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.

Here is the cut and paste from the laptop, it recognized it using the IP but not using the computer name. I was unable to Ping the computer you see called "Loft" even thought it is currently showing up under my workgroup computers on the laptop. I will do the same and post the results from the desktop as soon as my wife finishes her chem homework. By the way, zone alarm is now uninstalled from both computers and windows firewall is disabled.

justinh · 03-27-2006, 08:36 PM

i think you also wanted to see this....

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Darlene>net config workstation
Computer name \\LAPTOP
Full Computer name Laptop
User name Darlene

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{9E94AD79-2B89-416E-BD2F-2DB75B66C1D8} (000F66248569)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain HOMEOFFICE
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain LAPTOP

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

justinh · 03-27-2006, 08:41 PM

and now from the desktop...

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Justin>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domain.invalid
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

C:\Documents and Settings\Justin>

and...
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Justin>net config workstation
Computer name \\LOFT
Full Computer name Loft
User name Justin

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{46FB716D-D2E9-4D74-92C1-05763BF80BCC} (00115B2FA1D6)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain HOMEOFFICE
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain LOFT

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

C:\Documents and Settings\Justin>

justinh · 03-27-2006, 08:44 PM

both computers seem to come and go with recognizing the network. when both computers do recognize the network and i try to select the computer i am not currently at i get an error window that displays "\\Loft is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found."

I am unable to "ping" the laptop from the desktop and when i tried to do it using net view and the ip for the laptop i got the following error, "System error 53 has occurred" The network path was not found.

03-27-2006, 06:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Churnd Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 4,093	Are you sure your'e connected via firewire? I've yet to see a router that accepts a firewire connection. Maybe you mean a Cat5 cable? Usually from my experience, 90% of the reason home networks don't work are firewall issues. Do you have a software firewall running? If so, you'll need to open the necessary ports for sharing. All you really have to do to set up a network is to put both computers on the same workgroup. You can check this by right clicking My Computer, then Properties, then Computer Name. Click the "Change" to see which workgroup you're on and change it if needed. The actual computer name itself doesn't matter as long as it's not something extremely long. Once you do that and reboot if necessary, you can select which folders and printers you want to share. This site has a wealth of information you could use to read up more on this topic: www.ezlan.net. __________________ -Chris If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Click here to search! My Website

03-27-2006, 07:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
Churnd Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 4,093	Something is blocking communication between the computers. If you set up two XP machines and put them on the same workgroup, they will see each other straight out of the box. It doesn't take much at all to make this happen. So, software firewall? Antivirus? __________________ -Chris If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Click here to search! My Website

03-27-2006, 10:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
Churnd Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 4,093	Turn off ZoneAlarm and see if it works. I'm betting the bank it will. ZoneAlarm can be configured to open the necessary ports, but we'll take it one step at a time. __________________ -Chris If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Click here to search! My Website

03-27-2006, 12:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,908	I have my computer set up the same way. i have my 2 external hard drives connected to my desktop which are then shared so i can access the drives wirelessly anyhwere in the house. i then have the printer hooked up to another computer also shared. one thing you can try is enter the IP address directly. goto start > Run > type "cmd" (without the " "s) this will open a dos window, then type ipconfig <enter> this will show you the IP address. since you are going through the router it probably will be a 192.168.x.x (where x is a number between 0 and 255) once you get the IP of the desktop, using the laptop open My Computer and in the address bar type \\192.168.x.x (assuming your internal IP address is 192.168. something) this should open a window that will show "shared printers" "shared pictures" shared etc, open the printers folder and double click on the printer. of couse you need to have the printer shared for it show up. but it will then add the shared printer to the laptop's printers, open printers/faxes and make sure its set as the default printer. you then can now add a network drive for the folders/ drives you want to access on the desktop from the laptop. do this by clicking on my computer, then goto tools > Map Network Drive. follow the set up wizard to get it set up. hope this helped, if you have any more questions feel free to PM me or send me an message on AIM. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :) Last edited by ToferUOP; 03-27-2006 at 12:51 PM.

03-27-2006, 02:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
*midiwall* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattleish, WA Posts: 9,078	Okay, then I'll shortcut the verbose examples. Check to be sure that both machines are on the same workgroup. Control Panel \| System \| Computer Name \| Change. Be sure that "workgroup" is checked and that both machines are set the same. (Chris pointed this out earlier) Once you know the machine names, and that they're in the same workgroup, you can validate WINS by pinging them with the names... From a prompt, ping {machinename} (no brackets). If you don't get a response __FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS__ then you have a WINS issue that needs to be resolved. That's why one machine can't see the other. You can also try to bypass name resolution... Get the IP's for both machines, then from a prompt: net view xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx That should give you a list of shares on each machine, (storage or printer). If it doesn't, then you have a basic comm issue _between_ the machines. Given that you can get outside, then we can pretty much assume that both machines are running DHCP and that they're on the same subnet. Like JD said - if you can ping each machine from the other (and I'll toss in that you need it to work by name) then you'll looking at a permissions issue. But, XP Home doesn't have a lot of the options (read, "potential for trouble") that XP Pro does, so this shouldn't be the problem. And, that would bring us back to ZoneAlarm. ...which btw, you don't need. I HATE software firewalls. argh. __________________ ~ Mark '96 4Runner Limited S/C MI - 370cc injectors, Air! horns, Airaid MIT, ATS A-arms, 285/75/R16 BFG MTs, Bored TB, Brembo slotted, Cobra 75 WXST, Deckplate, Downey headers, Hayden cooler, IPT valve body, Level 10 torque convertor, Meanstreak exhaust, OME/OME rears, On-board PC (XM, Nav, WiFi, etc), Port 'n Polish, Remote Start, SAW fronts, Hilux console, SMT-5, Stubb's sliders, Supra MAF, TJM-17, 2.0" pulley, Viair 450c, Walbro 190, Weasy2k cams

03-27-2006, 07:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jimmeh Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montana USA Posts: 2,279	Make sure your windows firewall is off when you are trying to do any networking, and if you are using an antivirus, make sure you have its firewall off as well (Norton is a real crappy one when it comes to that, since you have to go through a lot of stuff just to find the firewall.) After you do all that, you should reboot your machines, and it should work right after that.

03-27-2006, 08:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
justinh Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: woodstock, ga Posts: 1,505	both computers are running zone alarm and the windows firewall. i guess i will just have to play around with it some more tonight when i get home from work. they do recognize each other now (atleast they both show up under workgroup computers) i just can't access either one from the other computer.

03-27-2006, 01:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
jdickerson Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Waxhaw, NC Posts: 66	What OS are both pcs running? The guys are on the right path with the firewall and IP questions, once you have established that both pcs can ping each other, then it is going to turn into a rights/permissions issue. Post the results as midiwall suggests and we will have you running in no time.

03-27-2006, 02:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
justinh Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: woodstock, ga Posts: 1,505	thanks for all of the advice. when i get home i will try turning the zone alarm off and see if that works. fyi, they are both running XP Home. Like i said, neither computer has any problem connecting to the internet, this is the second wireless internet network i have set-up and neither has had any problems in the last 3 years. The whole purpose for this was so that my wife can conveniently print from her laptop instead of unplugging the printer from the desktop and plugging it into the laptop and work on the same files from either computer.

03-27-2006, 03:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
Churnd Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 4,093	I'm with Mark... the only time I ever recommend a software firewall is when the user is on dialup, which I hate to do because dialup is slow enough as it is and a firewall is only gonna slow things down a little more. But if they insist on dialup (or can't get anything else), then it's a very necessary pain. __________________ -Chris If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Click here to search! My Website

03-27-2006, 04:49 PM	#19 (permalink)
jdickerson Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Waxhaw, NC Posts: 66	My 2 pennies, midiwall seems to know his stuff along with churnd, I might debate software firewall versus hardware (way too long a discussion), XP home is somewhat difficult to deal with sometimes, I would suggest that the same user accounts exist on both pcs, share the printer on the main computer, my guess from what you have provided is that ZA is blocking the print traffic, you will probably disable Zone Alarm and everything will work like a champ. If not, then it is very likely a authority issue, which means granting access to the other computers logged in user account will clear up the issue. My kids are ready for bed, I can help tommorrow if need be. The guys on this forum seem to be as good with CPUs as they are with Toyotas so I'm guessing this will be solved by morning.

03-27-2006, 08:19 PM	#22 (permalink)
justinh Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: woodstock, ga Posts: 1,505	C:\Documents and Settings\Darlene>ipconfig Windows IP Configuration Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domain.invalid IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected C:\Documents and Settings\Darlene>ping Loft Ping request could not find host Loft. Please check the name and try again. C:\Documents and Settings\Darlene>net view 192.168.1.101 Shared resources at 192.168.1.101 Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Epson Print EPSON Stylus CX5400 SharedDocs Disk The command completed successfully. Here is the cut and paste from the laptop, it recognized it using the IP but not using the computer name. I was unable to Ping the computer you see called "Loft" even thought it is currently showing up under my workgroup computers on the laptop. I will do the same and post the results from the desktop as soon as my wife finishes her chem homework. By the way, zone alarm is now uninstalled from both computers and windows firewall is disabled.

03-27-2006, 08:36 PM	#23 (permalink)
justinh Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: woodstock, ga Posts: 1,505	i think you also wanted to see this.... Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Darlene>net config workstation Computer name \\LAPTOP Full Computer name Laptop User name Darlene Workstation active on NetbiosSmb (000000000000) NetBT_Tcpip_{9E94AD79-2B89-416E-BD2F-2DB75B66C1D8} (000F66248569) Software version Windows 2002 Workstation domain HOMEOFFICE Workstation Domain DNS Name (null) Logon domain LAPTOP COM Open Timeout (sec) 0 COM Send Count (byte) 16 COM Send Timeout (msec) 250 The command completed successfully.

03-27-2006, 08:41 PM	#24 (permalink)
justinh Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: woodstock, ga Posts: 1,505	and now from the desktop... Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Justin>ipconfig Windows IP Configuration Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domain.invalid IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 C:\Documents and Settings\Justin> and... Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Justin>net config workstation Computer name \\LOFT Full Computer name Loft User name Justin Workstation active on NetbiosSmb (000000000000) NetBT_Tcpip_{46FB716D-D2E9-4D74-92C1-05763BF80BCC} (00115B2FA1D6) Software version Windows 2002 Workstation domain HOMEOFFICE Workstation Domain DNS Name (null) Logon domain LOFT COM Open Timeout (sec) 0 COM Send Count (byte) 16 COM Send Timeout (msec) 250 The command completed successfully. C:\Documents and Settings\Justin>

03-27-2006, 08:44 PM	#25 (permalink)
justinh Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: woodstock, ga Posts: 1,505	both computers seem to come and go with recognizing the network. when both computers do recognize the network and i try to select the computer i am not currently at i get an error window that displays "\\Loft is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found." I am unable to "ping" the laptop from the desktop and when i tried to do it using net view and the ip for the laptop i got the following error, "System error 53 has occurred" The network path was not found. Last edited by justinh; 03-27-2006 at 08:47 PM.

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