Cheap A$$ Work!!!

NX Tacoma · 07-09-2004, 03:36 PM

So today we get new computers for the office's, I am thinking sweet... fast...high tech computers! Well I guessed wrong, they are Dell Dimension 2400 with a Celeron!

How much cheaper can they get(I guess I am taking up the extra money on my pay check's!

) , they are the SLOWEST computer I have ever seen!

The question is, can I change the Celeron into a Pentium without alot of trouble?

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NX Tacoma · 07-09-2004, 04:22 PM

This is the computer I had before switching to PC(Mac G4).

NX Tacoma · 07-09-2004, 04:26 PM

Now!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Scofco · 07-09-2004, 04:42 PM

When the boss asks why you didn't get your work finished on time, just point to the computer.

NX Tacoma · 07-09-2004, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scofco

When the boss asks why you didn't get your work finished on time, just point to the computer.

so true!

NX Tacoma · 07-09-2004, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amusement

Celerons are pentiums that had their L2 and L3 cache removed and reduced instruction sets. In short, AMD makes a better chip than Intel at the Celeron level.

Former Intel employee '95-2003

Where can I get an AMD chip and will it be hard to replace it with the Celeron?

Napoleon047 · 07-09-2004, 05:10 PM

depends on the socket type.

go to control panel, then system information, there should be information about your processor there, its model and speed. from that model and speed, you can determine the socket type and then what chips interchange with it.

how much RAM does it have??

NX Tacoma · 07-09-2004, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napoleon047

depends on the socket type.

go to control panel, then system information, there should be information about your processor there, its model and speed. from that model and speed, you can determine the socket type and then what chips interchange with it.

how much RAM does it have??

I dont know I am home now, I will tell you tomorrow when I go in.

data · 07-09-2004, 11:27 PM

You should be able to drop a P4 proc in w\o any issues. I'd say drop a 2.4ghz in it and some more ram.

4xJedi · 07-10-2004, 05:31 AM

Just remember, if you change anything on that new Dell, your warranty is gone. Well the company's warranty

.

Churnd · 07-10-2004, 01:30 PM

Make sure your BIOS has the latest updates before you change the processor, otherwise the motherboard won't recognize it. But if it's new, then it should.

NX Tacoma · 07-10-2004, 01:51 PM

It sounds like I should just bring it into a computer shop and tell them what I want in it! I know NOTHING about computer, I thought I could just replace some boards and it would run PERFECT! ha ha ha

MTL_4runner · 07-11-2004, 04:42 AM

Dell's are great computers but at the lower levels.....THEY SUCK!
This is because the board becomes so intergrated that everything is shared and seriously hurts performance. If you want to upgrade the performance you really need to upgrade the motherboard. I bet even the video card is sharing memory with the processor.

I am an AMD fan at home (by far the best bang for the buck!) but at work I am still putting in Intel stuff, but you need to really pay up to get anything worthwhile and upgradeable. :cry:

You should be able to put in a P4 into what you have at work but it won't be cheap.

Download this onto the PC and tell us which chipset your board has:
http://www.sisoftware.net/redirect/dload.php?id=43

Then we can tell you exactly how far you can push that mobo.

Napoleon047 · 07-11-2004, 05:22 AM

ive worked on a lot of dells that people want to upgrade. its usually the family computer they got for a $499 package deal. EVERYTHING is integrated and you are lucky if there is a single PCI slot. the mobos themselves are bastards along with the case and power supply, so you cant even upgrade the mobo. a lot of them dont even have room for another hard drive!

amusement · 07-11-2004, 07:24 AM

Stand back a moment and observe how realy cool it is to be a Yota member getting free computer support and no one is "yanking your chain". Opinions about computers (amd vs intel or ati vs nvidia) and what's the best solution drives most requets for help. I am truly glad to see how well we work together.

NX Tacoma · 07-11-2004, 01:42 PM

[quote=MTL_4runner]Dell's are great computers but at the lower levels.....THEY SUCK!

Dont get me wrong........I love Dell, I have a Inspiron 8600(laptop)....with everything(1.4GHz;1GB memory;hard drive 80;128 graphic card;15.4 liquid crystal diaplay screen;DVD writer;Centriono)! I LOVE this Dell laptop!!!!

NX Tacoma · 07-11-2004, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napoleon047

ive worked on a lot of dells that people want to upgrade. its usually the family computer they got for a $499 package deal. EVERYTHING is integrated and you are lucky if there is a single PCI slot. the mobos themselves are bastards along with the case and power supply, so you cant even upgrade the mobo. a lot of them dont even have room for another hard drive!

I would just like my work computer to be faster! I don't even know what that intales(mobo,ram,extr)?

When I get to my office I will let you know what the spec. of my computer are, then hopefully someone can tell me how I can make it run faster!!
Thanks everyone!

MTL_4runner · 07-11-2004, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NX Tacoma

I would just like my work computer to be faster! I don't even know what that intales(mobo,ram,extr)?

When I get to my office I will let you know what the spec. of my computer are, then hopefully someone can tell me how I can make it run faster!!
Thanks everyone!

Run sisoft sandra from the link I gave you above and it will tell you all the specs on it. Then report back what you find and we'll get you sped up in no time!

NX Tacoma · 07-11-2004, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTL_4runner

Run sisoft sandra from the link I gave you above and it will tell you all the specs on it. Then report back what you find and we'll get you sped up in no time!

Thanks, I will!!!!!

NX Tacoma · 07-12-2004, 10:13 AM

OS Name- Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version- 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer- Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer- Dell Computer Corporation
System Model- Dimension 2400
System Type- X86-based PC
Processor- x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date-Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
SMBIOS Version- 2.3
Windows Directory- C:\WINDOWS
System Directory- C:\WINDOWS\System32
Boot Device-\Device\HarddiskVolume2
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)"
Total Physical Memory- 256.00 MB
Available Physical Memory- 26.06 MB
Total Virtual Memory- 687.53 MB
Available Virtual Memory- 158.85 MB
Page File Space- 433.53 MB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Here it is!!! What do you think??? :pat:

sabre · 07-12-2004, 12:40 PM

This is a work pc with XP home edition?

You need more memory. 256 nowadays isnt enough.

MTL_4runner · 07-12-2004, 03:24 PM

NX, try running the "system summary" and "mainboard info" modules then use the icon at the bottom to "copy to clipboard" and then post it here. The info you posted told us a little bit but I need more specs on the motherbaord to tell you anything about it.

NX Tacoma · 07-12-2004, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabre

This is a work pc with XP home edition?

You need more memory. 256 nowadays isnt enough.

I need to remove XP Home, just haven't had the time.

MLT 4runner, I will do it!

NX Tacoma · 07-12-2004, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTL_4runner

NX, try running the "system summary" and "mainboard info" modules then use the icon at the bottom to "copy to clipboard" and then post it here. The info you posted told us a little bit but I need more specs on the motherbaord to tell you anything about it.

Where can I find the "mainboard info" and "system summary"at? I looked it under programs, is that even where it's located at?

amusement · 07-12-2004, 06:00 PM

here's the Windows menus to get you system information

Start> All Programs>Accessories>System Tools>System Information

Also recommend PC Wizard 2004 -> It's free @

http://www.cpuid.com/download/pcw2004_v163.exe

ALSO VISIT http://www.BLACKVIPER.com for more PC info about setup and getting the most out of your PC. I have successfuly been using info from Black Viper for over 4 years. Heck, he's better than Intel's customer service!!!

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NX Tacoma Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 676	It sounds like I should just bring it into a computer shop and tell them what I want in it! I know NOTHING about computer, I thought I could just replace some boards and it would run PERFECT! ha ha ha

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MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	Dell's are great computers but at the lower levels.....THEY SUCK! This is because the board becomes so intergrated that everything is shared and seriously hurts performance. If you want to upgrade the performance you really need to upgrade the motherboard. I bet even the video card is sharing memory with the processor. I am an AMD fan at home (by far the best bang for the buck!) but at work I am still putting in Intel stuff, but you need to really pay up to get anything worthwhile and upgradeable. :cry: You should be able to put in a P4 into what you have at work but it won't be cheap. Download this onto the PC and tell us which chipset your board has: http://www.sisoftware.net/redirect/dload.php?id=43 Then we can tell you exactly how far you can push that mobo. __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

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Napoleon047 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 995	ive worked on a lot of dells that people want to upgrade. its usually the family computer they got for a $499 package deal. EVERYTHING is integrated and you are lucky if there is a single PCI slot. the mobos themselves are bastards along with the case and power supply, so you cant even upgrade the mobo. a lot of them dont even have room for another hard drive! __________________ -Peter 86 4runner SAS - Trail Rig 94 FZJ80 - DD the dirt cheap SAS Marko Customs

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amusement Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 1,509	Stand back a moment and observe how realy cool it is to be a Yota member getting free computer support and no one is "yanking your chain". Opinions about computers (amd vs intel or ati vs nvidia) and what's the best solution drives most requets for help. I am truly glad to see how well we work together.

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NX Tacoma Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 676	[quote=MTL_4runner]Dell's are great computers but at the lower levels.....THEY SUCK! Dont get me wrong........I love Dell, I have a Inspiron 8600(laptop)....with everything(1.4GHz;1GB memory;hard drive 80;128 graphic card;15.4 liquid crystal diaplay screen;DVD writer;Centriono)! I LOVE this Dell laptop!!!! Attached Thumbnails

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NX Tacoma Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 676	OS Name- Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Version- 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Build 2600 OS Manufacturer- Microsoft Corporation System Manufacturer- Dell Computer Corporation System Model- Dimension 2400 System Type- X86-based PC Processor- x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz BIOS Version/Date-Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003 SMBIOS Version- 2.3 Windows Directory- C:\WINDOWS System Directory- C:\WINDOWS\System32 Boot Device-\Device\HarddiskVolume2 Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)" Total Physical Memory- 256.00 MB Available Physical Memory- 26.06 MB Total Virtual Memory- 687.53 MB Available Virtual Memory- 158.85 MB Page File Space- 433.53 MB Page File C:\pagefile.sys Here it is!!! What do you think??? :pat:

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MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	NX, try running the "system summary" and "mainboard info" modules then use the icon at the bottom to "copy to clipboard" and then post it here. The info you posted told us a little bit but I need more specs on the motherbaord to tell you anything about it. __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

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amusement Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 1,509	here's the Windows menus to get you system information Start> All Programs>Accessories>System Tools>System Information Also recommend PC Wizard 2004 -> It's free @ http://www.cpuid.com/download/pcw2004_v163.exe ALSO VISIT http://www.BLACKVIPER.com for more PC info about setup and getting the most out of your PC. I have successfuly been using info from Black Viper for over 4 years. Heck, he's better than Intel's customer service!!! Last edited by amusement; 07-12-2004 at 06:02 PM.

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