Best Laptop Computers???

MTL_4runner · 07-06-2004, 08:35 AM

Well after getting the server up and running our office is now expanding and I need more offices. Rather than spring for another desktop my thinking is just to move mine to someone else's office and get a laptop instead but I wasn't sure which one people recommend.

I am currently looking at the Dell Inspiron 9100....
Any thoughts on this?

I want something with all the power of a desktop....weight not an issue (only lug it to and from the car).

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PoBoy · 07-06-2004, 08:39 AM

I'll take one of these: http://www.alienware.com/product_det...de=SKU-EXTREME

MTL_4runner · 07-06-2004, 09:01 AM

I found this lying around at work too:
http://www.freakazoid.org/reference/tosh/tosh430c.htm

Looks closer to a folder than a useable electronic device.

Biff · 07-06-2004, 09:20 AM

I would go with Dell, for a laptop. Just make sure you purchase an extended warranty. I bought an Inspirion 8100 two years ago, and my screen just went out an extended warranty would have cost $100, a new screen will cost me $600 1/2 the price of what I paid for the laptop. :cry:

Bud · 07-06-2004, 11:35 AM

If its just for the usual office work, another vote for Dell.

98 Joes · 07-06-2004, 11:57 AM

I have a Dell and it's been great. So one more for "Dude, You're getting a Dell."

**waskillywabbit** · 07-06-2004, 12:11 PM

I got a Dell Inspiron 8200 but my dad just got a Gateway with comparible equipment as it was cheaper than the equivalent Dell. But I still prefer Dell.

Dude, get the Dell w/ a port replicator and you'll be set!

SLC Punk · 07-06-2004, 12:30 PM

I have had a Sony Vaio laptop for five years. It has been a great computer up to 6 months ago. I had to get some capacitors replaced ($100) and now I think my LCD may be going out.

My next laptop will probably be a Dell or Toshiba

OneTrickToy · 07-06-2004, 12:42 PM

As someone who has personally worked on computers and worked with quite a few laptops... I avoid Dell. My dad had a Dell, it was cheaply made. The clasps that Dell uses to hold their laptops closed often break. I've seen at least 2 with broken clasps. They run slower compared to Toshiba's with the same specs. They cost more. And their customer support has gone to crap. My girlfriend spent over an hour on hold, then when she got someone, they didn't speak english and hung up on her. Finally got an english speaking tech support and they couldn't fix her problem. Sent her 3 new DVD drives, and each time it didn't fix her problem. In addition to that, they run hot and have noisy fans.

Now, I've had two Toshiba's now, and had several friends with Toshibas. They run forever with little to no problems. And my dad recently bought an AWESOME Sony Vaio for incredibly cheap at Costco. Only downside to his Vaio is the weight.

rimpainter.com · 07-06-2004, 12:46 PM

I have a Toshiba Satellite and I love it. 2.4ghz, XP, Office 2003, linksys wireless, all for just over $650 after rebates. Only drawback is waiting on all the rebates. Otherwise I would have been up around $1200.

It's a bit big compared to the laptops that my Japanese co-workers just brought over from Japan (you should see these things, they are miniature!)

bamachem · 07-06-2004, 12:47 PM

i have a HP and like it so far... it's a HP compaq nc6000 w/ 2.4 ghz processor, 512 MB ram and 40 gig hd with cd burner and dvd player. not a bad setup.

Bob_98SR5 · 07-06-2004, 01:10 PM

jamie,

i've purchased two dell laptops thus far, including my current one, an inspiron 4100. it's still performing w/o any flaws. my previous one survived grad school and you know what i'm talking about---that's a torture test!

similarly, i've purchased three dell desktops. all w/o any problems aside from hardware like cd-rom players wearing out. the one that i'm writing on right now, an xps t600, i've owned since 1999 and its still running like a champ. i replaced the rear fan the other week, so now it is much quieter.

dell customer support: this problem they had w/ outsourced indian labor is now history. moreover, it only applied to the optiplex and latitude laptops. its now become such a big internet story and used so many times by dell-bashers: http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech...ll.centers.ap/

so to set the record straight, dell does not use indian tech support anymore.

lastly, i've NEVER had problems getting through to dell. the longest i've ever had to wait was about 5-6 minutes. and if anyone here is surprised you have to wait 15-30 minutes because you call monday morning instead of sunday evening (when traffic is light)...ok, no value judgements

their CS has been outstanding for me. warrantied parts are sent the same day by overnight mail. put in the old one w/ the return label and you're done w/ it. my wife's computer had a faulty power supply and the guy came the next day w/ a brand new computer.

bob

goatboy22382 · 07-06-2004, 01:17 PM

I have a dell lattitude and a dell desktop. the desktop is great but the lattiude is really disappointing. there are issues with the video driver that causes it to crash all the time and it does seem really cheap in construction. Before this laptop i had an ibm thinkpad. it was fast quit and very durable. In a couple yrs ill be getting another thinkpad

MTL_4runner · 07-06-2004, 02:03 PM

Although the Alienware laptop looks very cool I can't see how to justify it to my Board at the next meeting.....I would certainly get a few chuckles and quite a few UFO jokes too.

Sounds like Dell is the machine to get but I was contemplating which one. I prefer to get an inspiron just for the performance because I will replace my desktop with it and I want the ability for high end graphics (so I want the best video I can get in a laptop.....yes, I know desktop is way better in this category). I just want to maximize how the money is spent if anyone asks me to justify it.

I looked at the XPS and it didn't seem to justify the price/performance.
Would the 9100 be the best bang for my buck all things considered?

Also why is the 8600 priced so high with a slower chip?

PoBoy · 07-06-2004, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTL_4runner

Although the Alienware laptop looks very cool I can't see how to justify it to my Board at the next meeting.....I would certainly get a few chuckles and quite a few UFO jokes too.

Haha...probably true. But you wanted to know the "Best Laptop". It's pretty damn slick! They have nice waranty options too. I bought a comp from them 5 years ago...still have it. Runs GREAT...I did have a quirk here and there...tech support fixed me up in a jiffy.

WT · 07-06-2004, 02:13 PM

I'll toss it out there IBM (thinkpads) and Dell which you have alot of vote for now already. Thinkpads are tough. I will say I have seen all brand of laptops broken and many are due to user neglect not the laptops stop working on there own.

MellamoPOUND · 07-06-2004, 02:32 PM

I have an IBM thinkpad, and love it! At college a lot of my friends had trouble with Toshiba and Dell.

OneTrickToy · 07-06-2004, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob_98SR5

dell customer support: this problem they had w/ outsourced indian labor is now history. moreover, it only applied to the optiplex and latitude laptops. its now become such a big internet story and used so many times by dell-bashers: http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech...ll.centers.ap/

so to set the record straight, dell does not use indian tech support anymore.

Umm.. from reading that article, it just applies to corporate computers. My girlfriend's laptop is an Inspiron(not mentioned in the article), and her problems were recent. That article was written in more than 6 months ago.

MvCrash · 07-08-2004, 05:39 PM

Nothing Better than an IBM Thinkpad. You pay for what you get.

Just my 2Cents

Mvcrash

MTL_4runner · 07-11-2004, 04:50 AM

I looked at the IBM thinkpad and it looks good but the video card in it is not too hot (Intel extreme graphics vs mobility Radeon 9700!!!). Looks like I will order myself the Dell 9100 on Monday because now their special is a free upgrade to a 7200 RPM Ultra ATA 100GB hard drive.....definately need the space. Will report back when I get it.

MTL_4runner · 07-11-2004, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTL_4runner

I looked at the XPS and it didn't seem to justify the price/performance.
Would the 9100 be the best bang for my buck all things considered?

This article seems to clear up this question I had.
http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardw...eviews/5318/1/

Not worth a grand just for 2MB of Level 3 cache

Cebby · 07-11-2004, 06:25 AM

I just ordered up an HP zt3000 from a family friend who is also the HP rep. Seems like a nice blend of power to weight. 755 chip, 60Gb HD, 1 Gb RAM (can go to 2 Gb), 64Mb Video, 15.4 widescreen, Integral wireless 802.11 b/g AND bluetooth (I'm hooked on bluetooth ever since I got a Motorola V600 with a wireless ear piece). Also got a 4155 PDA and a portable printer both with integrated Bluetooth.

MTL_4runner · 07-12-2004, 04:01 PM

OK I finally ordered the laptop...I got a:

Dell Inspiron 9100
Intel P4 3.0Ghz
512MB DDR 400 RAM
100GB 7200RPM Ultra ATA HD (free upgrade!)
ATI 128MB Mobility Radeon
15.4" WXGA wide screen
8X DVD Burner
Bluetooth wireless
802.11 (B and G) wireless

Win XP Pro 2003
Office Small Business 2003

All for the measily price of $3300 CDN + Tax .......thank god the business is buying it. :pat:

Will let you guys know how it is when I get it.....

jht3 · 07-15-2004, 11:01 AM

how much does it weigh? sounds heavy

for anyone that cares i'm throwing in my vote for Thinkpads. Thats all we have here at work and they are solid machines. They cost a bit more but they are workhorses. For the serious business user a T42 is very good machine. I have a year old T40 myself. Especially for those people that want to run Linux, a Thinkpad is the way to go

and the Pentium-M chip is very cool. My older T30 had a P-4 and my 1.5 P-M is SOOOO much faster and manages the battery better

I'll stop talking now, I'm giving myself a hard-on

4run4fun · 07-15-2004, 06:10 PM

Like others, I've had experience with multiple brands - Dell, Toshiba, Compaq, IBM. All have their good points, but IBM simply makes the best business laptop there is. Just bought a new T42.

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MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	I found this lying around at work too: http://www.freakazoid.org/reference/tosh/tosh430c.htm Looks closer to a folder than a useable electronic device. __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

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Biff Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 853	I would go with Dell, for a laptop. Just make sure you purchase an extended warranty. I bought an Inspirion 8100 two years ago, and my screen just went out an extended warranty would have cost $100, a new screen will cost me $600 1/2 the price of what I paid for the laptop. :cry: __________________ Victor 03 4runner 94 Landcruiser Last edited by Biff; 07-06-2004 at 11:43 AM.

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98 Joes Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Puyallup, WA. Posts: 160	I have a Dell and it's been great. So one more for "Dude, You're getting a Dell." __________________ Doug '94 4Runner SR5 '98 Honda CBR600F3 SJR

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waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,548	Dell I got a Dell Inspiron 8200 but my dad just got a Gateway with comparible equipment as it was cheaper than the equivalent Dell. But I still prefer Dell. Dude, get the Dell w/ a port replicator and you'll be set! __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

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SLC Punk Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 5,875	I have had a Sony Vaio laptop for five years. It has been a great computer up to 6 months ago. I had to get some capacitors replaced ($100) and now I think my LCD may be going out. My next laptop will probably be a Dell or Toshiba __________________ -Travis 1997 4Runner SR5 V6 4X4 Supercharged Desert Dune SOLD :( 1992 Celica All Trac (AWD-Turbo) #223 of 271 US spec for 1992 FOR SALE 2005 Tundra Double Cab Limited 4X4 2.5" lift 265/70R17 Dueler Revo's 4Runner and Celica Webpage

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OneTrickToy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 917	As someone who has personally worked on computers and worked with quite a few laptops... I avoid Dell. My dad had a Dell, it was cheaply made. The clasps that Dell uses to hold their laptops closed often break. I've seen at least 2 with broken clasps. They run slower compared to Toshiba's with the same specs. They cost more. And their customer support has gone to crap. My girlfriend spent over an hour on hold, then when she got someone, they didn't speak english and hung up on her. Finally got an english speaking tech support and they couldn't fix her problem. Sent her 3 new DVD drives, and each time it didn't fix her problem. In addition to that, they run hot and have noisy fans. Now, I've had two Toshiba's now, and had several friends with Toshibas. They run forever with little to no problems. And my dad recently bought an AWESOME Sony Vaio for incredibly cheap at Costco. Only downside to his Vaio is the weight. __________________ New Rig 2007 Double Cab Taco Sold 1991 300ZX Twin Turbo Stage 3+ Sold 1991 4x4 Pickup V6 5spd; 3" Rancho lift; 1.5" BJ Spacers; Rear Detroit

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rimpainter.com Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,797	I have a Toshiba Satellite and I love it. 2.4ghz, XP, Office 2003, linksys wireless, all for just over $650 after rebates. Only drawback is waiting on all the rebates. Otherwise I would have been up around $1200. It's a bit big compared to the laptops that my Japanese co-workers just brought over from Japan (you should see these things, they are miniature!) __________________ www.rimpainter.com Get your O Gasket Mod Here! My SC'd 4Runner's Profile My YouTube vids

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bamachem Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 0	i have a HP and like it so far... it's a HP compaq nc6000 w/ 2.4 ghz processor, 512 MB ram and 40 gig hd with cd burner and dvd player. not a bad setup.

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Bob_98SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,092	jamie, i've purchased two dell laptops thus far, including my current one, an inspiron 4100. it's still performing w/o any flaws. my previous one survived grad school and you know what i'm talking about---that's a torture test! similarly, i've purchased three dell desktops. all w/o any problems aside from hardware like cd-rom players wearing out. the one that i'm writing on right now, an xps t600, i've owned since 1999 and its still running like a champ. i replaced the rear fan the other week, so now it is much quieter. dell customer support: this problem they had w/ outsourced indian labor is now history. moreover, it only applied to the optiplex and latitude laptops. its now become such a big internet story and used so many times by dell-bashers: http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech...ll.centers.ap/ so to set the record straight, dell does not use indian tech support anymore. lastly, i've NEVER had problems getting through to dell. the longest i've ever had to wait was about 5-6 minutes. and if anyone here is surprised you have to wait 15-30 minutes because you call monday morning instead of sunday evening (when traffic is light)...ok, no value judgements their CS has been outstanding for me. warrantied parts are sent the same day by overnight mail. put in the old one w/ the return label and you're done w/ it. my wife's computer had a faulty power supply and the guy came the next day w/ a brand new computer. bob

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goatboy22382 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 188	I have a dell lattitude and a dell desktop. the desktop is great but the lattiude is really disappointing. there are issues with the video driver that causes it to crash all the time and it does seem really cheap in construction. Before this laptop i had an ibm thinkpad. it was fast quit and very durable. In a couple yrs ill be getting another thinkpad __________________ 94 4runner, v6, auto, 4WD, optima red top, headers and exaust,K&N fipk, 3 in downey lift, manual hubs, 33x12.50 bfg mud terrains, 10lb power tank

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MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	Although the Alienware laptop looks very cool I can't see how to justify it to my Board at the next meeting.....I would certainly get a few chuckles and quite a few UFO jokes too. Sounds like Dell is the machine to get but I was contemplating which one. I prefer to get an inspiron just for the performance because I will replace my desktop with it and I want the ability for high end graphics (so I want the best video I can get in a laptop.....yes, I know desktop is way better in this category). I just want to maximize how the money is spent if anyone asks me to justify it. I looked at the XPS and it didn't seem to justify the price/performance. Would the 9100 be the best bang for my buck all things considered? Also why is the 8600 priced so high with a slower chip? __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

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WT Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Virgina Posts: 721	I'll toss it out there IBM (thinkpads) and Dell which you have alot of vote for now already. Thinkpads are tough. I will say I have seen all brand of laptops broken and many are due to user neglect not the laptops stop working on there own. __________________ 96 4Runner SR5 SC \| 3" Revtek Front/OME 891 Rear,Diff/Panhard Drop\|AirLift bags\|285/75/R16 Nitto Terra Grappler\|Eaqle 121 w/TRD Logo\|Bilsteins\|Cross-Drilled PS w/PF Pads\|Silver Reverse Gauges\|Custom Grill\|Catch-All Floor Mats\|Sylvania SilverStar\|Weather Tech Visors\|Clear Corner/Fronts\|Alpine MP3/WMA/CD\|99+Headlight/Console Mod\|K&N FIPK W/Drycharger\|Optima Redtop\|Trans-Cooler\|Remote Start\|PICS\|PICS2\|

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MvCrash Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 342	Nothing Better than an IBM Thinkpad. You pay for what you get. Just my 2Cents Mvcrash

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MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	I looked at the IBM thinkpad and it looks good but the video card in it is not too hot (Intel extreme graphics vs mobility Radeon 9700!!!). Looks like I will order myself the Dell 9100 on Monday because now their special is a free upgrade to a 7200 RPM Ultra ATA 100GB hard drive.....definately need the space. Will report back when I get it. __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN! Last edited by MTL_4runner; 07-11-2004 at 04:52 AM.

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MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	OK I finally ordered the laptop...I got a: Dell Inspiron 9100 Intel P4 3.0Ghz 512MB DDR 400 RAM 100GB 7200RPM Ultra ATA HD (free upgrade!) ATI 128MB Mobility Radeon 15.4" WXGA wide screen 8X DVD Burner Bluetooth wireless 802.11 (B and G) wireless Win XP Pro 2003 Office Small Business 2003 All for the measily price of $3300 CDN + Tax .......thank god the business is buying it. :pat: Will let you guys know how it is when I get it..... __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN! Last edited by MTL_4runner; 07-12-2004 at 04:08 PM.

07-15-2004, 11:01 AM	#24 (permalink)
jht3 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 125	how much does it weigh? sounds heavy for anyone that cares i'm throwing in my vote for Thinkpads. Thats all we have here at work and they are solid machines. They cost a bit more but they are workhorses. For the serious business user a T42 is very good machine. I have a year old T40 myself. Especially for those people that want to run Linux, a Thinkpad is the way to go and the Pentium-M chip is very cool. My older T30 had a P-4 and my 1.5 P-M is SOOOO much faster and manages the battery better I'll stop talking now, I'm giving myself a hard-on

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4run4fun Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 81	Like others, I've had experience with multiple brands - Dell, Toshiba, Compaq, IBM. All have their good points, but IBM simply makes the best business laptop there is. Just bought a new T42. __________________ '03 4Runner Sport V6 4x4 w/XREAS, Silver w/Cladding Mods: 265/70R17 Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo's, Sliders, Daystar Lift, Double Decker Mod, Shrockworks Bumper, Custom Skid protection for Engine, Tranny, Tcase and Muffler, and 10000 Arizona pinstripes! Soon to include:T-max winch, ARB Rear locker, custom rear diff skid, custom gas tank skid

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