Yaesu 817nd in 3rd gen 4runner

DeMented Toys · 03-27-2009, 07:41 PM

I have a Yaesu 817nd that I have been trying to figure out how to mount in a 3rd gen 4runner. Anyone know anything about this radio? I know it runs on quite a few different bands, but am still learning what that means. I'm studying for my Ham technician license and hope to test soon.

Is the Yaesu 817nd a good choice for vehicle mounting?

I have a cobra CB too just for the record. I don't want to start one of those CB vs Ham radio discussions

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toyospearo · 03-27-2009, 08:33 PM

Study up!
If you have questions at this point about specific Ham bands those questions will be answered (by you) when you are prepared enough to make the appointment to take your test.
The 817 is a SERIOUS rig that requires a long day of reading the manual and another long day of hands on tinkering of the unit.
IMHO the 817 is a perfect rig for mounting in a 4 runner. This link might help- http://www.ram-mount.com/

Neo

"Why do my eyes hurt?"

Morpheus

"You've never used them before. Rest, Neo. The answers are coming."

Matrix

DeMented Toys · 03-27-2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyospearo

Study up!
If you have questions at this point about specific Ham bands those questions will be answered (by you) when you are prepared enough to make the appointment to take your test.
The 817 is a SERIOUS rig that requires a long day of reading the manual and another long day of tinkering.
IMHO the 817 is a perfect rig for mounting in a 4 runner. This link might help- http://www.ram-mount.com/

The more I study the more interesting it gets. SERIOUS rig is a good thing right?

toyospearo · 03-27-2009, 08:46 PM

Yes, its a GREAT thing.
However, unless you are going beyond technicians status on the first exam date the only bands you can TRANSMIT on that 817 are 2m and 440m. Thats ok! The other bands you can monitor and listen in until you move up to General Class!
good luck!!!
BTW- give me a shout when you get your call sign. I am K6ZXK

GSGALLANT · 03-28-2009, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyospearo

...However, unless you are going beyond technicians status on the first exam date the only bands you can TRANSMIT on that 817 are 2m and 440m.

I think you meant to say 2m and 70cm.

Now, the 817 looks like a good radio, but it's a portable, so I'm not sure how satisfied you'll be using it as a mobile rig, because it looks to be limited to 5W output. You can try it to see what sort of range you'll get with it, but you may find that unless you're close to a repeater, you'll be pretty limited to how far you can transmit. Most mobiles will have 40W - 50W outputs.

toyospearo · 03-28-2009, 06:18 PM

hahahahah see thats what happens when you don't study!
thanks

DeMented Toys · 03-29-2009, 09:23 AM

Is there a better option that the 817nd? Or a way to increase the output? Maybe I should try and sell or trade for a more suitable unit...

GSGALLANT · 03-29-2009, 04:24 PM

Well... I'm not saying it won't work well... just that you may not get the range and clarity that you would like in your transmissions.

If you are looking at other options, there are tons out there. If you think you are partial to Yaesu radios, here is what they have for mobiles. I have the FT-7800R, and I really like it. Here is how I installed it in my 2002 4Runner.

DeMented Toys · 03-30-2009, 04:58 PM

I also have an Elecraft K2 that I had planned on using for a base station. If I sold the K2 I could probably get a Yaesu mobile.
Then I could use the new Yaesu mobile unit for a mobile/base and the Yaesu 817nd for a portable when I'm away from my vehicle backpacking etc. which it seems to be better suited for with the 5watt output...

I know with the technician licence I will be limited to 2m/70cm but can move up from there...

So I need to figure out what the differences are between the Yaesu mobile units and which one would be best for my application so I can install the right unit the first time...

GSGALLANT · 03-30-2009, 05:33 PM

Some have remote mount faceplates (mine does), so your have more options for mounting it. Some are dual band, tri band, or quad band. Most times, a dual band will be sufficient, because it will allow 2m and 70cm. Do some reading on the Yaesu site and on www.eham.net (they have lots of radio reviews on there.)

DeMented Toys · 04-28-2009, 03:13 PM

I decided to sell this Yaesu 817nd and buy a mobile unit with a remote faceplate. I think I will be loosing the portability and loosing bands, but being new to ham radio I can't really use all the extra bands anyway.

If anyone is interested I posted the 817nd in the for sale section!

khoopes · 04-30-2009, 01:18 PM

The remote mount faceplates are nice. The power output of your rig can easily be boosted by an Amplifier. Something like a mirage B-215-G

03-27-2009, 08:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
toyospearo Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: way way nor cal Posts: 1,585	Study up! If you have questions at this point about specific Ham bands those questions will be answered (by you) when you are prepared enough to make the appointment to take your test. The 817 is a SERIOUS rig that requires a long day of reading the manual and another long day of hands on tinkering of the unit. IMHO the 817 is a perfect rig for mounting in a 4 runner. This link might help- http://www.ram-mount.com/ Neo "Why do my eyes hurt?" Morpheus "You've never used them before. Rest, Neo. The answers are coming." Matrix __________________ 94 Ext. cab 22re Aussied, 4.88's, SAS,ed, FLATBED, Old Man Emu rear leafs w/TG 5.5" shackles, TG sliders, LC Header, Marlin super HD clutch, 32's- Swamper TSL's- RC rims, Badland Bumper, lifted, lighted, LED'ed, Warned, alternatored (LC High ouput), Hammed, gusseted, trussed, etc, etc... My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/great-w...ck-sas-164531/ My Flatbed build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f88/toyospea...-build-191787/ Last edited by toyospearo; 03-27-2009 at 08:36 PM.

03-27-2009, 08:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
toyospearo Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: way way nor cal Posts: 1,585	Yes, its a GREAT thing. However, unless you are going beyond technicians status on the first exam date the only bands you can TRANSMIT on that 817 are 2m and 440m. Thats ok! The other bands you can monitor and listen in until you move up to General Class! good luck!!! BTW- give me a shout when you get your call sign. I am K6ZXK __________________ 94 Ext. cab 22re Aussied, 4.88's, SAS,ed, FLATBED, Old Man Emu rear leafs w/TG 5.5" shackles, TG sliders, LC Header, Marlin super HD clutch, 32's- Swamper TSL's- RC rims, Badland Bumper, lifted, lighted, LED'ed, Warned, alternatored (LC High ouput), Hammed, gusseted, trussed, etc, etc... My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/great-w...ck-sas-164531/ My Flatbed build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f88/toyospea...-build-191787/ Last edited by toyospearo; 03-27-2009 at 08:47 PM.

03-28-2009, 06:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
toyospearo Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: way way nor cal Posts: 1,585	hahahahah see thats what happens when you don't study! thanks __________________ 94 Ext. cab 22re Aussied, 4.88's, SAS,ed, FLATBED, Old Man Emu rear leafs w/TG 5.5" shackles, TG sliders, LC Header, Marlin super HD clutch, 32's- Swamper TSL's- RC rims, Badland Bumper, lifted, lighted, LED'ed, Warned, alternatored (LC High ouput), Hammed, gusseted, trussed, etc, etc... My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/great-w...ck-sas-164531/ My Flatbed build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f88/toyospea...-build-191787/

03-29-2009, 04:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
GSGALLANT Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,760	Well... I'm not saying it won't work well... just that you may not get the range and clarity that you would like in your transmissions. If you are looking at other options, there are tons out there. If you think you are partial to Yaesu radios, here is what they have for mobiles. I have the FT-7800R, and I really like it. Here is how I installed it in my 2002 4Runner. __________________ 2002 4Runner, Auto-A340F, 3.4L, 4.30 Gears TJM T15 Front Bumper & Warn M8000, 4xInnovation sliders, Sonoran Steel 1.2 Lift, Toytec LCA Skids, Tundra Brake Upgrade (231mm), Extended rear diff breather, Deckplate Mod, Andymod, Dual batt setup with Optima blue top aux battery, Hardwired 1000W inverter, Aux fuse box, Full time power to 12V plugs, Yaesu FT7800R Radio, "4-air" system for airing up/down tires. 2004 Camry LE - stock (and will stay that way) 1993 4Runner has been sold

03-30-2009, 05:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
GSGALLANT Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,760	Some have remote mount faceplates (mine does), so your have more options for mounting it. Some are dual band, tri band, or quad band. Most times, a dual band will be sufficient, because it will allow 2m and 70cm. Do some reading on the Yaesu site and on www.eham.net (they have lots of radio reviews on there.) __________________ 2002 4Runner, Auto-A340F, 3.4L, 4.30 Gears TJM T15 Front Bumper & Warn M8000, 4xInnovation sliders, Sonoran Steel 1.2 Lift, Toytec LCA Skids, Tundra Brake Upgrade (231mm), Extended rear diff breather, Deckplate Mod, Andymod, Dual batt setup with Optima blue top aux battery, Hardwired 1000W inverter, Aux fuse box, Full time power to 12V plugs, Yaesu FT7800R Radio, "4-air" system for airing up/down tires. 2004 Camry LE - stock (and will stay that way) 1993 4Runner has been sold

03-29-2009, 09:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
DeMented Toys Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southeast Missouri Posts: 48	Is there a better option that the 817nd? Or a way to increase the output? Maybe I should try and sell or trade for a more suitable unit...

03-30-2009, 04:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
DeMented Toys Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southeast Missouri Posts: 48	I also have an Elecraft K2 that I had planned on using for a base station. If I sold the K2 I could probably get a Yaesu mobile. Then I could use the new Yaesu mobile unit for a mobile/base and the Yaesu 817nd for a portable when I'm away from my vehicle backpacking etc. which it seems to be better suited for with the 5watt output... I know with the technician licence I will be limited to 2m/70cm but can move up from there... So I need to figure out what the differences are between the Yaesu mobile units and which one would be best for my application so I can install the right unit the first time...

04-28-2009, 03:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
DeMented Toys Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southeast Missouri Posts: 48	I decided to sell this Yaesu 817nd and buy a mobile unit with a remote faceplate. I think I will be loosing the portability and loosing bands, but being new to ham radio I can't really use all the extra bands anyway. If anyone is interested I posted the 817nd in the for sale section!

04-30-2009, 01:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
khoopes Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oklahoma, USA Posts: 266	The remote mount faceplates are nice. The power output of your rig can easily be boosted by an Amplifier. Something like a mirage B-215-G __________________ Kristopher Erik "KD5EJO" Transplanted Alaskan in Foster OK 88 X-Cab now with 22RTE/93 FZJ80 Landcruiser w/e-lockers/"Work Truck" 00 Lexus LX470 FOR TOP NOTCH CARBURATOR OVERHAULS CLICK HERE http://www.yotatech.com/f37/ekhi-cus...turing-162085/ Like Fishing, hunting, Ham radio, flying, canoeing, kayaking, traveling, all the better with friends. Dedicated Christian. Excellent Wife. 3 Very Good Sons. Any other questions?

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