Feasible to install 6.5" speakers into 5.25" door mount?

doughboysch · 11-04-2009, 01:53 PM

I am looking for tips/advice on installing 6.5" speakers into the rear doors of my '97 4Runner SR5. The current opening is for a 5.25" speaker.

Has anyone attempted this? I know it is possible, but wonder how easy it would be with a dremel and a spare saturday afternoon.

Thanks in advance guys

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**aviator** · 11-04-2009, 02:10 PM

trimming sheet metal/plastic would not be the problem mounting depth would be the issue.
The 6.5s are usually much deeper than the 5.25s and might interfere with the window operation. If you had some shallow mount 6.5s though all would be good.

theAuthority · 11-04-2009, 02:27 PM

is it feasible? do you have scissors? do you have a blow torch? do you have plasma cutter?

if you can answer yes to any of those, then yes it's feasible.

doughboysch · 11-04-2009, 02:38 PM

Thanks Aviator, it appears that the mounting depth is 2.5" for both front and rear doors, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Authority, I'm looking for some helpful information rather than an off-the-cuff remark that I obviously addressed in my initial post. Next time before posting, read the entire post instead of just the title.

Is there anyone that has done something similar that has some advice or tips?

ozziesironmanoffroad · 11-04-2009, 02:49 PM

lucky, u actually have speakers in your door. mine are in the dash... and sound like garbage.

Elton · 11-04-2009, 03:20 PM

id stick with the 5.25'' speakers

doughboysch · 11-05-2009, 12:57 PM

Elton, why?

Elton · 11-05-2009, 12:58 PM

cause they fit with out hacking and cutting to make them fit

BigBluePile · 11-05-2009, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doughboysch

...Authority, I'm looking for some helpful information rather than an off-the-cuff remark that I obviously addressed in my initial post. Next time before posting, read the entire post instead of just the title...

BURN!!! lol!

Not sure about the speaker mounts though. Theres 2/5" of depth so does that mean the bigger speakers are just as deep as the others? If not and you are dead set on those 6.5" once you could bring the speaker out and mount into a pod of sorts. Like make it out of some wood covered in fiberglass and then smooth with body puddy. That would give a "molded" look for the speaker itself. idk...thinking off-the-cuff.

theAuthority · 11-05-2009, 01:13 PM

It's not that hard to do and not even TOYOTA related.

You're wanting to fit a Large Round Speaker and mount it there.

If the depth fits then you use 4 self tapping screws then put the cover on afterwards.

It's easier than you think ....

doughboysch · 11-05-2009, 01:17 PM

If for some reason the mounting depth is an issue I will definately go back to the 5.25s. I want the door panel to look stock so I'm not going to bring the speaker outside the door -- which is also why the "hacking and cutting" doesn't worry me to much, it will be covered up.

The speakers I ordered last night have a 2.3" mounting depth so hopefully a little grinding and cutting is all it takes.

theAuthority · 11-05-2009, 01:20 PM

what speakers?

suncomb1 · 11-05-2009, 01:26 PM

You can get speaker adapters from Crutchfield, paint them to match your interior and your 6.5" will look good. I run Kenwood 5.25" 3 ways in my doors because I will never hit their 50Watt operating rating but some people like their sound higher than that. Good luck with whatever you decide upon.

theAuthority · 11-05-2009, 01:27 PM

so this is your door? is the speaker firmly pressed against the door panel or can you use a depth extended to put in a larger speaker?

doughboysch · 11-05-2009, 01:37 PM

I picked up these last night http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QA6QSY

I'm going to pop the door panels off tonight or tomorrow and take a good look at what I'm getting myself into.

doughboysch · 11-05-2009, 01:45 PM

*edit
Yes, that is my door.

**aviator** · 11-05-2009, 02:44 PM

You might run into some contact issues fitting the 6.5s behind the stock grill.

To answer the question most people switch to a 6.5 because they can usually handle more power and provide a richer tone colour then the 5.25s.

theAuthority · 11-05-2009, 02:48 PM

You get some hefty 5.25's though with depth extenders.

11-04-2009, 02:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,472	trimming sheet metal/plastic would not be the problem mounting depth would be the issue. The 6.5s are usually much deeper than the 5.25s and might interfere with the window operation. If you had some shallow mount 6.5s though all would be good. __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

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theAuthority Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,624	is it feasible? do you have scissors? do you have a blow torch? do you have plasma cutter? if you can answer yes to any of those, then yes it's feasible. __________________ Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. Where there is Substance. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/

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11-04-2009, 03:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
Elton Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Siletz,Oregon Posts: 10,652	id stick with the 5.25'' speakers __________________ My Truck 98 4runner SR5 3.4L 5spd 4x4 E-Locker Mods Mom 07 Tundra d-cab limited 5.7L 4x4 auto sister 92 pickup SR5 X-cab 3.0L 5spd 4x4 Papa 89 Pickup SR5 X-cab 4x4 3.0L 5spd/98 4runner SR5 4x4 auto 3.4L R.I.P 91 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0L 5spd Totaled 5/13/06 My Wreck

11-05-2009, 12:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Elton Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Siletz,Oregon Posts: 10,652	cause they fit with out hacking and cutting to make them fit __________________ My Truck 98 4runner SR5 3.4L 5spd 4x4 E-Locker Mods Mom 07 Tundra d-cab limited 5.7L 4x4 auto sister 92 pickup SR5 X-cab 3.0L 5spd 4x4 Papa 89 Pickup SR5 X-cab 4x4 3.0L 5spd/98 4runner SR5 4x4 auto 3.4L R.I.P 91 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0L 5spd Totaled 5/13/06 My Wreck Last edited by Elton; 11-05-2009 at 03:15 PM.

11-04-2009, 02:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
doughboysch Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 12	Thanks Aviator, it appears that the mounting depth is 2.5" for both front and rear doors, so that shouldn't be a problem. Authority, I'm looking for some helpful information rather than an off-the-cuff remark that I obviously addressed in my initial post. Next time before posting, read the entire post instead of just the title. Is there anyone that has done something similar that has some advice or tips?

11-05-2009, 12:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
doughboysch Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 12	Elton, why?

11-05-2009, 01:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
theAuthority Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,624	It's not that hard to do and not even TOYOTA related. You're wanting to fit a Large Round Speaker and mount it there. If the depth fits then you use 4 self tapping screws then put the cover on afterwards. It's easier than you think .... __________________ Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. Where there is Substance. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/

11-05-2009, 01:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
doughboysch Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 12	If for some reason the mounting depth is an issue I will definately go back to the 5.25s. I want the door panel to look stock so I'm not going to bring the speaker outside the door -- which is also why the "hacking and cutting" doesn't worry me to much, it will be covered up. The speakers I ordered last night have a 2.3" mounting depth so hopefully a little grinding and cutting is all it takes.

11-05-2009, 01:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
theAuthority Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,624	what speakers? __________________ Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. Where there is Substance. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/

11-05-2009, 01:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
suncomb1 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 90	You can get speaker adapters from Crutchfield, paint them to match your interior and your 6.5" will look good. I run Kenwood 5.25" 3 ways in my doors because I will never hit their 50Watt operating rating but some people like their sound higher than that. Good luck with whatever you decide upon.

11-05-2009, 01:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
theAuthority Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,624	so this is your door? is the speaker firmly pressed against the door panel or can you use a depth extended to put in a larger speaker? __________________ Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. Where there is Substance. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/ Last edited by theAuthority; 11-05-2009 at 01:28 PM.

11-05-2009, 01:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
doughboysch Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 12	I picked up these last night http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QA6QSY I'm going to pop the door panels off tonight or tomorrow and take a good look at what I'm getting myself into.

11-05-2009, 01:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
doughboysch Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 12	*edit Yes, that is my door.

11-05-2009, 02:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,472	You might run into some contact issues fitting the 6.5s behind the stock grill. To answer the question most people switch to a 6.5 because they can usually handle more power and provide a richer tone colour then the 5.25s. __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

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11-05-2009, 02:48 PM	#18 (permalink)
theAuthority Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,624	You get some hefty 5.25's though with depth extenders. __________________ Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. Where there is Substance. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/