Solid Axle Swap Has Begun!!!!! - Page 2

93ToyKid · 12-09-2005, 10:15 PM

So today we got a torch and finished off the rest of the IFS crap.
Truck prepares to be rid of it once and for all:

Dad torching it up

The finished product:

I can see I'm going to spend some quality time with the grinder...
Anyone want any "slightly used" IFS bracketry?

Tomorrow will be a day of grinding, and (hopefully) getting to work on that front axle. She's lookin good!!

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dwh91102 · 12-10-2005, 03:30 AM

toykid what kind of motocross bike did you race lol

93ToyKid · 12-10-2005, 06:09 AM

Hehe...these beasts right here:

We still have the bikes, but I haven't raced in forever. I really need to get back to the track

93ToyKid · 12-10-2005, 02:26 PM

So today we got the frame nice and smooth. That involved some quality time spent with the grinder and sawzall. Now for the pics:

So now the yota is back on the ground, only this time the front end is a little different

Enjoy!

garrett1478 · 12-10-2005, 02:36 PM

nice! that's looking good man!

***midiwall*** · 12-10-2005, 03:21 PM

I know there's more to do, but wow that was quick!

NEXT!

outdoorfever · 12-10-2005, 05:22 PM

dang that is awesome. good work and thanks for the pics.

HUTCHSTACO · 12-10-2005, 05:51 PM

its nice to get to see this come together so fast, nice work!

93ToyKid · 12-10-2005, 06:17 PM

Thanks guys. So far everything has gone great. We still have a list of things to do though:
-rebuild axle
-install third member
-install steering (waiting for parts)
-install brake lines/bleed the brakes
-shock hoops need to be welded on
-motor mount plates need to be welded on
-front driveshaft needs to be made (or re-use IFS driveshaft)
And a few other small things, but the biggest part of it is done. I gotta go back to school tomorrow for a couple of exams Monday, so as soon as I get that done, we'll get back to work on it. Should be ready to go soon!

86toyota · 12-10-2005, 06:29 PM

Curious what it's costing you so far? Is this just you and your dad doing all the work?
Great work so far. I'm surprized how fast it's coming along also.

93ToyKid · 12-10-2005, 06:44 PM

So far its probably right around two grand. We've done everything except the welding on the spring hangers (never really welded before, so I don't trust myself on something like that). The kit was I believe $1395, the axle was a few hundred, and the third member (brand new with a TruTrac), was I believe around 800. I think Marlin has lowered the price since a couple of weeks ago when we ordered everything, so you may want to check out their website.

93ToyKid · 12-10-2005, 06:46 PM

Just for giggles, I thought yall may want to see some pics from the conversion we did last winter on our 89 Runner:

**waskillywabbit** · 12-10-2005, 06:57 PM

I hope to be a "dad" like that to my (2) boys.

Seems you skipped a few pics of the steps!

Looks good!

Robinhood150 · 12-10-2005, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86toyota

Curious what it's costing you so far?

It cost him 2 exams.

93ToyKid · 12-10-2005, 08:07 PM

Haha...yea I skipped alot of pics! I hope it doesn't cost me two exams. I have a Chemistry exam at 8am Monday, and then a Calculus at 1. Needless to say...Sunday night is going to be a loooooooooooong night.

6lug · 12-10-2005, 08:16 PM

Keep the pics coming man...i really wanna see the steering stuff installed too. Also, what was shipping on that kit from marlin? Thanks man.

93ToyKid · 12-11-2005, 06:32 AM

I think it was $100.

99_Runner · 12-11-2005, 06:54 AM

Nice looking swap. Coming along very well.

93ToyKid · 12-14-2005, 06:24 PM

So today we pretty much finished up our SAS. The front axle was rebuilt, and all welding was finished. Still a small list though:
-Front end alignment needs adjusting
-Extended brake lines need to be put on/brakes need to be bled/new pads
-A front drive shaft would be useful
-Need a place to mount the tranny cooler
Here are a few pics:

Dad had the clever idea to use the tab already on the frame to mount the steering stabilizer:

And he also had the idea to weld a bolt to the top of the frame to remount the brake line bracket:

We took the first test drive, and it went very well. Here are some poser shots:

Can't wait to try it on the trail!

93ToyKid · 12-14-2005, 06:27 PM

Notice in the third from last pic our brake line

**waskillywabbit** · 12-14-2005, 06:36 PM

Looks good!

IMO, you need to brace those shock hoops something like this:

callmej75 · 12-14-2005, 07:37 PM

wow...damn that was quick! If I ever want to do my SAS then i know where to go

93ToyKid · 12-14-2005, 08:04 PM

haha...yeah it didn't take but a little less than a week. that was working pretty solid every day though. as for those shock hoops, we looked at bracing them, and that would probably be a good idea, but there are two runs of welds on them, and you can grab ahold of them and rock the whole truck. they're as solid as can be. if need be, we'll add braces. btw waskilly...have you ever had trouble with your drag link hitting the connecting rod? ours is awfully close. thanks!

**waskillywabbit** · 12-15-2005, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93ToyKid

haha...yeah it didn't take but a little less than a week. that was working pretty solid every day though. as for those shock hoops, we looked at bracing them, and that would probably be a good idea, but there are two runs of welds on them, and you can grab ahold of them and rock the whole truck. they're as solid as can be. if need be, we'll add braces. btw waskilly...have you ever had trouble with your drag link hitting the connecting rod? ours is awfully close. thanks!

Just remember, you are going to abuse this truck's suspension wheeling...and that is a HUGE moment arm on the frame in those spots where you have the shock hoops welded on...frame is only like 2-3 mm thick...and the bracing cuts that moment arm down significantly. I'd be proactive and brace, not reactive and repair when they bend/brake the frame in that spot. Just my pennies, since it would take so little effort to brace the hoops.

Nope, never had any trouble w/ the drag link hitting the tie rod. I'm sure there are some pics on my website under the "front axle" buildup. I have the AP high steer kit. Did you move your box as far forward as possible?

934rnr · 12-15-2005, 07:13 PM

You probably need a flat pitman arm or a 3/4" less drop arm since your ifs box is in the stock location.
www.sky-manufacturing.com and OTC sells them.

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86toyota Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Trafford, Pa Posts: 1,158	Curious what it's costing you so far? Is this just you and your dad doing all the work? Great work so far. I'm surprized how fast it's coming along also. __________________ Gregg 86 yota extra cab, 4" Pro comp, 33's, cam, header,CF Dual friction, K&N, and so on... (SOLD) 89 toyota 4x4 flatbed MY TRUCK

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12-10-2005, 06:09 AM	#28 (permalink)
93ToyKid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: High Point, NC/School at NC State Posts: 387	Hehe...these beasts right here: We still have the bikes, but I haven't raced in forever. I really need to get back to the track

12-10-2005, 02:26 PM	#29 (permalink)
93ToyKid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: High Point, NC/School at NC State Posts: 387	So today we got the frame nice and smooth. That involved some quality time spent with the grinder and sawzall. Now for the pics: So now the yota is back on the ground, only this time the front end is a little different Enjoy!

12-10-2005, 02:36 PM	#30 (permalink)
garrett1478 Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 0	nice! that's looking good man!

12-10-2005, 05:51 PM	#33 (permalink)
HUTCHSTACO Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bellevue, Washington Posts: 1,044	its nice to get to see this come together so fast, nice work!

12-10-2005, 06:17 PM	#34 (permalink)
93ToyKid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: High Point, NC/School at NC State Posts: 387	Thanks guys. So far everything has gone great. We still have a list of things to do though: -rebuild axle -install third member -install steering (waiting for parts) -install brake lines/bleed the brakes -shock hoops need to be welded on -motor mount plates need to be welded on -front driveshaft needs to be made (or re-use IFS driveshaft) And a few other small things, but the biggest part of it is done. I gotta go back to school tomorrow for a couple of exams Monday, so as soon as I get that done, we'll get back to work on it. Should be ready to go soon!

12-10-2005, 06:44 PM	#36 (permalink)
93ToyKid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: High Point, NC/School at NC State Posts: 387	So far its probably right around two grand. We've done everything except the welding on the spring hangers (never really welded before, so I don't trust myself on something like that). The kit was I believe $1395, the axle was a few hundred, and the third member (brand new with a TruTrac), was I believe around 800. I think Marlin has lowered the price since a couple of weeks ago when we ordered everything, so you may want to check out their website.

12-10-2005, 06:46 PM	#37 (permalink)
93ToyKid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: High Point, NC/School at NC State Posts: 387	Just for giggles, I thought yall may want to see some pics from the conversion we did last winter on our 89 Runner:

12-10-2005, 08:07 PM	#40 (permalink)
93ToyKid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: High Point, NC/School at NC State Posts: 387	Haha...yea I skipped alot of pics! I hope it doesn't cost me two exams. I have a Chemistry exam at 8am Monday, and then a Calculus at 1. Needless to say...Sunday night is going to be a loooooooooooong night.

12-11-2005, 06:32 AM	#42 (permalink)
93ToyKid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: High Point, NC/School at NC State Posts: 387	I think it was $100.

12-11-2005, 06:54 AM	#43 (permalink)
99_Runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 1,115	Nice looking swap. Coming along very well. __________________ Drew 99 4Runner SR5, auto, 3.4 V6, factory rear locker, 265/75 Yokohama Geolander AT+II Stock for now, but hopefully not for long.

12-14-2005, 06:24 PM	#44 (permalink)
93ToyKid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: High Point, NC/School at NC State Posts: 387	So today we pretty much finished up our SAS. The front axle was rebuilt, and all welding was finished. Still a small list though: -Front end alignment needs adjusting -Extended brake lines need to be put on/brakes need to be bled/new pads -A front drive shaft would be useful -Need a place to mount the tranny cooler Here are a few pics: Dad had the clever idea to use the tab already on the frame to mount the steering stabilizer: And he also had the idea to weld a bolt to the top of the frame to remount the brake line bracket: We took the first test drive, and it went very well. Here are some poser shots: Can't wait to try it on the trail! Last edited by 93ToyKid; 12-14-2005 at 06:34 PM.

12-14-2005, 06:27 PM	#45 (permalink)
93ToyKid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: High Point, NC/School at NC State Posts: 387	Notice in the third from last pic our brake line

12-14-2005, 06:36 PM	#46 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,553	Looks good! IMO, you need to brace those shock hoops something like this: __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

12-14-2005, 07:37 PM	#47 (permalink)
callmej75 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,932	wow...damn that was quick! If I ever want to do my SAS then i know where to go

12-14-2005, 08:04 PM	#48 (permalink)
93ToyKid Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: High Point, NC/School at NC State Posts: 387	haha...yeah it didn't take but a little less than a week. that was working pretty solid every day though. as for those shock hoops, we looked at bracing them, and that would probably be a good idea, but there are two runs of welds on them, and you can grab ahold of them and rock the whole truck. they're as solid as can be. if need be, we'll add braces. btw waskilly...have you ever had trouble with your drag link hitting the connecting rod? ours is awfully close. thanks!

12-15-2005, 07:13 PM	#50 (permalink)
934rnr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: S. Burlington, VT Posts: 1,240	You probably need a flat pitman arm or a 3/4" less drop arm since your ifs box is in the stock location. www.sky-manufacturing.com and OTC sells them. __________________ 86 Toyota 4 runner Soild front axle, 35x12.5 BFG KM2's, winch, blah blah blah.... http://www.yotatech.com/f116/my-new-red-snappah-152938/ My cardomain page Last edited by 934rnr; 12-15-2005 at 07:15 PM.

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