sas options

86toyotakid · 09-04-2006, 03:07 PM

ok i just broke some parts on my 86 and it was the last straw iv have had it its time to build a nice rig. so for my dd i have a 98 4runner 4cyl 5spd, perfect.

whats the best way to do a sas i want leafs so its cheeper and i was looking at the trail gear kit but idk if it will work. r there any kits designed for the 4runner?? and im planing on running a yota axel weather the 79-85 axel or the early 90s land cruse axel if i can do that.

for the rear should i keep the coils or do a 63" chevy swap??

i searched and found some info but am still curieous. thanks, josh

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86toyotakid · 09-04-2006, 04:12 PM

so what axel should i run help please

waskillywabbit · 09-04-2006, 04:38 PM

EDIT: I just read your other thread...which truck are you going to SAS. You are parting the 86 out right?

86toyotakid · 09-04-2006, 05:07 PM

yea i dont want to deal with it anymore but theres tons of good parts and most of my buddies want them the others ill prob keep. i going to sas my 98 4runner hopefuly if i get all of my funds together and sell some toys.

AxleIke · 09-05-2006, 01:00 AM

Okay. No, the trail gear kit will not work for the 98. It will need to be a custom job, and you really should do a ton of bracing and plating on the frame to make it strong enough. If you are a good welder fabricator, it would be doable, do some research, and figure out everything you need to do. I don't think its going to be all that cheap, if you do it right, and build a good truck.

Leafs are cheap on the early trucks, cuz they are easy and quick. Not so much on the later trucks. I would swap the 86 long before i tried to swap the 98.

ORS · 09-05-2006, 06:21 AM

We will be selling a system in Oct. for the front of your 98 that would help you out immensely. It's a coilover system that is designed to take the guess-work and headache out of a multi-link setup. Check out this link for more info: http://www.offroadsolutions.com/tech...ion_system.htm

You are welcome to call or email with any ?'s... Good luck!

PS You will need to run an axle with a driver side differential to match your transfer case configuration. If you change the transfer case to an older style (there are adapters), you can run a passenger side diff.

JGM · 09-05-2006, 11:53 AM

Doing a swap on a 3rd gen is very complicated and expensive. The ORS kit sounds pretty cool, but you need to know that in addition to the driver side drop, you need to think through the steering (literally from the steering wheel down), crossmember, brakes, and how to match it with the rear suspension - not to mention the "basics" like Lockers? wheels? Tires? Regearing? Then there are the electronics to deal with like ABS, speed senders, etc. Certainly not to be taken lightly.

If I had a mini-truck, I would have swapped that instead of my 96, even though my 96 is a super cool truck. Good luck.

86toyotakid · 09-05-2006, 02:24 PM

ill probably have to custom make it because i want leafs and i can run a axel out of a land cruser. no abs, only have to regear the front, and eather keep the rear how it is and just lift it or do a 63" chevy spring convershion.

AxleIke · 09-05-2006, 02:35 PM

Which land cruiser would that be?

JGM · 09-05-2006, 03:11 PM

I don't know of any landcruiser with a driver diff. Check out SonoranSteel for good axle information.

Keep talking about your ideas, though. I like seeing more and more 3rd gen SAS projects.

881stGenRunner · 09-05-2006, 03:19 PM

Sounds like a sweet build. You should really talk to SteveO about his. He kept coilovers in the front and did the all-pro 5.5 leaves in the rear. I think SteveO will be your best source of info as far as this is concerned

86toyotakid · 09-05-2006, 04:36 PM

sry i was thinking the early 90s crusers did but im wrong. the swap wont be for a whyle though im kind of haveing trouble saveing money and im going off to school next fall so if it happens it will be next summer or the next im mainly just seing how much i need to save and what are the best options.

86toyotakid · 09-05-2006, 04:52 PM

heres a q

what have people been doing with there gas tanks cause u cant put a fuel cell in the bed sooooooo..... i the trunk???

AxleIke · 09-05-2006, 06:22 PM

They have been leaving them where they were for the most part, a few have moved them to the spare location.

09-04-2006, 04:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Banned Vendor Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 26,699	EDIT: I just read your other thread...which truck are you going to SAS. You are parting the 86 out right? Last edited by waskillywabbit; 09-04-2006 at 04:46 PM.

09-05-2006, 01:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Arvada, Colorado Posts: 5,430	Okay. No, the trail gear kit will not work for the 98. It will need to be a custom job, and you really should do a ton of bracing and plating on the frame to make it strong enough. If you are a good welder fabricator, it would be doable, do some research, and figure out everything you need to do. I don't think its going to be all that cheap, if you do it right, and build a good truck. Leafs are cheap on the early trucks, cuz they are easy and quick. Not so much on the later trucks. I would swap the 86 long before i tried to swap the 98. __________________ Supercharged 1999 4Runner- Baby Beast 2, the mild mannered build-Link 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction\|Now on 35's-Parts truck-SOLD 1989 Project 4runner-The Redo-SOLD -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

09-05-2006, 06:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
ORS Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 141	We will be selling a system in Oct. for the front of your 98 that would help you out immensely. It's a coilover system that is designed to take the guess-work and headache out of a multi-link setup. Check out this link for more info: http://www.offroadsolutions.com/tech...ion_system.htm You are welcome to call or email with any ?'s... Good luck! PS You will need to run an axle with a driver side differential to match your transfer case configuration. If you change the transfer case to an older style (there are adapters), you can run a passenger side diff. __________________ Off Road Solutions www.offroadsolutions.com Offering offroad products, engine conversions & custom fab work for your Toyota (& much more...)

09-05-2006, 11:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
JGM Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 342	Doing a swap on a 3rd gen is very complicated and expensive. The ORS kit sounds pretty cool, but you need to know that in addition to the driver side drop, you need to think through the steering (literally from the steering wheel down), crossmember, brakes, and how to match it with the rear suspension - not to mention the "basics" like Lockers? wheels? Tires? Regearing? Then there are the electronics to deal with like ABS, speed senders, etc. Certainly not to be taken lightly. If I had a mini-truck, I would have swapped that instead of my 96, even though my 96 is a super cool truck. Good luck. __________________ 1996 4Runner & 1971 FJ40

09-05-2006, 02:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Arvada, Colorado Posts: 5,430	Which land cruiser would that be? __________________ Supercharged 1999 4Runner- Baby Beast 2, the mild mannered build-Link 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction\|Now on 35's-Parts truck-SOLD 1989 Project 4runner-The Redo-SOLD -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

09-04-2006, 04:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
86toyotakid Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: May 2006 Location: stratham, NH Posts: 124	so what axel should i run help please

09-04-2006, 05:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
86toyotakid Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: May 2006 Location: stratham, NH Posts: 124	yea i dont want to deal with it anymore but theres tons of good parts and most of my buddies want them the others ill prob keep. i going to sas my 98 4runner hopefuly if i get all of my funds together and sell some toys.

09-05-2006, 02:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
86toyotakid Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: May 2006 Location: stratham, NH Posts: 124	ill probably have to custom make it because i want leafs and i can run a axel out of a land cruser. no abs, only have to regear the front, and eather keep the rear how it is and just lift it or do a 63" chevy spring convershion.

09-05-2006, 03:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
JGM Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 342	I don't know of any landcruiser with a driver diff. Check out SonoranSteel for good axle information. Keep talking about your ideas, though. I like seeing more and more 3rd gen SAS projects. __________________ 1996 4Runner & 1971 FJ40 Last edited by JGM; 09-05-2006 at 03:15 PM.

09-05-2006, 03:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
881stGenRunner Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home - Newnan, GA School - Kennesaw, GA Posts: 2,505	Sounds like a sweet build. You should really talk to SteveO about his. He kept coilovers in the front and did the all-pro 5.5 leaves in the rear. I think SteveO will be your best source of info as far as this is concerned __________________ -Brandon 1988 4Runner SR5 4x4 V6 5 Speed Swap (R150F) 242k mi (blown)~SDORI 1.5" BJ Spacers~Downey 26MM TBs~63" Chevy Springs~Downey Shackles~ES3000s~Motive Gear 5.29s~Rear Detroit~Front Lock-Rite~Yakima Load Warrior~35x12.5 BFG A/T KOs~Cragar 15x8 Streetlocks~Cobra 18 WXSTII~Marlin Crawler Rear~Addicted Offroad Front Bumper~4X Innovations Sliders~Smittybilt XRC8~Optima Yellow Top~SS IFS Truss. My 4Runner and Other Stuff

09-05-2006, 04:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
86toyotakid Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: May 2006 Location: stratham, NH Posts: 124	sry i was thinking the early 90s crusers did but im wrong. the swap wont be for a whyle though im kind of haveing trouble saveing money and im going off to school next fall so if it happens it will be next summer or the next im mainly just seing how much i need to save and what are the best options.

09-05-2006, 04:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
86toyotakid Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: May 2006 Location: stratham, NH Posts: 124	heres a q what have people been doing with there gas tanks cause u cant put a fuel cell in the bed sooooooo..... i the trunk???

09-05-2006, 06:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Arvada, Colorado Posts: 5,430	They have been leaving them where they were for the most part, a few have moved them to the spare location. __________________ Supercharged 1999 4Runner- Baby Beast 2, the mild mannered build-Link 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction\|Now on 35's-Parts truck-SOLD 1989 Project 4runner-The Redo-SOLD -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

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