Ranski's 85 4Runner Buildup

Ranski · 03-10-2006, 07:24 PM

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edit: you guys are mising the point. Its a labor of love to build these things up. You dont do it b/c its practical. You do it b/c its what you like.

by sdastg1

That couldn't be more true. I have never done anything like this and figured what better way to learn than to take on a rig that will pretty much need attention top to bottom.

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Have fun and keep posting pics as you progress. I for one don't get sick of the build-up threads...that is about all I really look for these days. All the rest are bling!

by Wabbit

Wabbit this thread is for you

Here we go...

The story starts with an 85 4Runner that nobody wanted. Seems like a bad flashback from high school...she was ugly I was desperate...

Here is the pic of the rig when it was posted here.

At the time I owned a 2000 4Runner w/ all the popular mods, including Sonoran rear bumper, TC skid, blah, blah, blah...

I have since sold it and purchase a Sequoia to eventually tow the 85 around.

Specs:
85' 4Runner
22RE (Clean and runs)
Auto
185K miles
Rusty

Basic Plans:
Marlin 4" Lift
Marlin Crossover
5.29 Yukons
Aussies front and rear
V6 Calipers up front w/ LC vented rotors
Stock calipers/rotors in rear (more on that later)
33" MTR's until I can find a deal on 35's
Frame plating
Sticker Removal

I brought it home last Sept and have been spending my time since then removing rusty parts and rebuilding the front axle. I should have the front all buttoned up tomorrow night.

Wish me luck...

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dragr1 · 03-10-2006, 07:43 PM

Wabbit has a brother?

Ranski · 03-10-2006, 07:43 PM

Pic of axle before cleanup

Pic of axle after cleanup and paint

Pic of v6 calipers after cleanup and paint

1985 4Runner · 03-10-2006, 07:47 PM

Glad to see you starting a buildup thread. I will be doing my 85' 4runner also. Good luck to you & I'll be following your progress.

Ryker

shazaam · 03-10-2006, 07:51 PM

cool I got quoted in a build up thread ...

Ranski · 03-10-2006, 08:01 PM

I was visiting with the guy that set-up my gears (Duane w/ Techtafab) and he showed me his brackets and adapter plate he is making for a rear disk conversion.

Here is the thread on Pirate w/ the details:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432279

getitdone · 03-10-2006, 09:10 PM

subscribing.

**waskillywabbit** · 03-10-2006, 09:19 PM

Awesome Randy...I'm looking forward to watching...and givin you a hard time.

Ranski · 03-12-2006, 08:51 PM

Well as is par for the course the axle rebuild took twice as long as anticipated.

Items that held me up along the way...

Figuring out the technique for getting the axle back into the birf with that pesky inner snap ring.

Modifing snap ring pliers so that I could reinstall the outer snap ring.

I'm not real confident I got the preload right on the wheel bearings, it sure seems like it takes alot of force to rotate. The scale says something like 30lbs.

The FSM's instructions were pretty squirrly so I just followed Roger Browns way of doing it. I'll have a friend over in a few weeks to check it out.

QUESTION:
The stock bolts for the calipers won't fit through the V6 calipers. The hole seems to be a tad too small. Has anyone else run across this. Not sure if I should grind out the holes in the calipers or not. It would seem that if I ordered v6 bolts they would be just a tad too small for the threads on the knuckle housing.

Ranski · 03-14-2006, 12:07 PM

Well it seems I've answered my own question.

ERROR: I assumed the bolt that was in the caliper was stock...WRONG!

I picked up my new bolts from the dealer and took them home. Three of the bolts fit perfectly the third wouldn't tighten down...hmmm

Well it turns out that the previous owner had stripped out the threads on the knuckle housing - Recut new threads and used a larger bolt. SO...looks like I will be grinding out one hole in my calipers so the old larger bolt will fit.

99_Runner · 03-15-2006, 05:48 AM

Good thread, can't wait for more updates. Good luck with the build.

Ric · 03-20-2006, 07:37 PM

any more updates ?

Ranski · 03-20-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ric

any more updates ?

Well I have been doing battle with the steering box. Most of the mounting bolts are difficult to get to and in my case very rusty, so I have been calling on my best friend PB Blaster to help me out. I am one bolt from being able to remove it. It is the fitting connecting the pressure line to the steering box. It is on there TIGHT! I won't beable to get back to it until Thursday night.

Both shock mounts have been removed - the only thing left to cut off up front is the torque rod bracket.

I'm trying to schedule my buddy to come over and weld up all the necessary front suspension/steering parts the first weekend in april.

Good to hear from you Ric...it has been awhile...a lot has changed in my Toyota world since you left KC.

Ric · 03-20-2006, 08:27 PM

yea, i see that, but looks good so far, keep up the great work...

FilthyRich · 03-20-2006, 08:35 PM

me like

bruzer1123 · 03-21-2006, 04:27 AM

I love watching buildup threads. Keep up the good work!

Ranski · 03-30-2006, 07:22 PM

Received my last few parts from Marlin today. Looks like all this stuff will be put on the middle of next week.

I spent the past weekend, grinding down all the surfaces AND I finally got that pesky fitting off the power steering box. All it took was a GOOD set of flare end wrenches, 3-foot cheater pipe and 4-days of PB Blaster.

Couple of things I'm tracking down between now and then include:

I purchased the 12" Bilsteins and saw on Tatums build thread he ended up swithcing out to the 14" length...posted on Marlin to see which will work.
I have a question concerning mounting the "regular" shock hoops. The mounting points aren't flush with the frame as the shock bracket comes in contact with the wheel well.

Not flush w/ frame

Shock bracket in contact with wheel well

**waskillywabbit** · 03-30-2006, 07:28 PM

What I did...

All the other pics on my website under the front axle.

Ranski · 03-30-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

What I did...

All the other pics on my website under the front axle.

What size Bilteins are you running up front 12 or 14?

**waskillywabbit** · 03-30-2006, 07:52 PM

Whatever came w/ the AP 5" Extreme Lift kit...seems like they are 14" of travel...I can go look at the part # if you gotta have it.

Ranski · 03-30-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Whatever came w/ the AP 5" Extreme Lift kit...seems like they are 14" of travel...I can go look at the part # if you gotta have it.

If it's easy to grab, that would be great..if not no worries...like I said I got a post on the Marlin board.

HUTCHSTACO · 03-30-2006, 09:21 PM

i would love to see a picture of the whole truck at the point its at now

Ranski · 03-31-2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HUTCHSTACO

i would love to see a picture of the whole truck at the point its at now

Here ya go...she ain't pretty - YET

Ranski · 04-01-2006, 08:33 PM

Forgot to mention awhile back I picked up a spare 22re for FREE

Needs a rebuild, but heck you can't pass up FREE. Never rebuilt and engine before, but everyone says these are pretty straight forward motors.

Also, I though I would offer up how I installed my inner axle seal when rebuilding the front end. I basically put a socket extension in the wrong end of a 32mm impact socket. This matched up perfectyly to the diameter of the seal and with a few hits of the hammer it was snuggly in place.

4runnermt · 04-01-2006, 08:38 PM

I like seeing a poor old neglected rig be made nice again, keep up the good work!

03-10-2006, 07:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
dragr1 Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Auburn, AL Posts: 3,627	Wabbit has a brother? __________________ 1985 4Runner Dual e-lockers, dual cases, yada yada 1996 4runner, lifted, 2 lockers, 315 KM2's, IFS and more '00 Suburban 2500 4x4 '07 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd TRD '02 Lexus IS300 1991 Tiffin Allegro 31' Class A

03-10-2006, 07:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ranski Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 346	Pic of axle before cleanup Pic of axle after cleanup and paint Pic of v6 calipers after cleanup and paint __________________ Randy 2006 Sequoia 1985 4Runner: Build-up has begun Build-up Thread: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=80743 www.tornadoalleycruisers.com TLCA #12443 Last edited by Ranski; 08-15-2007 at 06:52 PM.

03-10-2006, 07:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,057	cool I got quoted in a build up thread ... __________________ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, and the lesson afterwards. <-- the artist formerly known as sdastg1

03-10-2006, 08:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ranski Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 346	Rear Disk Conversion I was visiting with the guy that set-up my gears (Duane w/ Techtafab) and he showed me his brackets and adapter plate he is making for a rear disk conversion. Here is the thread on Pirate w/ the details: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432279 __________________ Randy 2006 Sequoia 1985 4Runner: Build-up has begun Build-up Thread: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=80743 www.tornadoalleycruisers.com TLCA #12443

03-10-2006, 09:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
getitdone Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ft. Collins, Co Posts: 1,006	subscribing. __________________ Chris Fischer 3D 85 4Runner SR5 \| 33" BFG M/T on flat black rims \| Chevy springs \| Custom Grab cage with overhead cb mount \| Custom fabbed center console \| Freshly rebuilt axle with IFS hub/caliper swap \| Rock Sliders \| Lots more... In Colorado, Dig.

03-10-2006, 09:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,472	Awesome Randy...I'm looking forward to watching...and givin you a hard time. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it.

03-12-2006, 08:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ranski Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 346	Front Axle Rebuild Well as is par for the course the axle rebuild took twice as long as anticipated. Items that held me up along the way... Figuring out the technique for getting the axle back into the birf with that pesky inner snap ring. Modifing snap ring pliers so that I could reinstall the outer snap ring. I'm not real confident I got the preload right on the wheel bearings, it sure seems like it takes alot of force to rotate. The scale says something like 30lbs. The FSM's instructions were pretty squirrly so I just followed Roger Browns way of doing it. I'll have a friend over in a few weeks to check it out. QUESTION: The stock bolts for the calipers won't fit through the V6 calipers. The hole seems to be a tad too small. Has anyone else run across this. Not sure if I should grind out the holes in the calipers or not. It would seem that if I ordered v6 bolts they would be just a tad too small for the threads on the knuckle housing. __________________ Randy 2006 Sequoia 1985 4Runner: Build-up has begun Build-up Thread: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=80743 www.tornadoalleycruisers.com TLCA #12443 Last edited by Ranski; 01-10-2007 at 07:36 PM.

03-14-2006, 12:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ranski Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 346	Well it seems I've answered my own question. ERROR: I assumed the bolt that was in the caliper was stock...WRONG! I picked up my new bolts from the dealer and took them home. Three of the bolts fit perfectly the third wouldn't tighten down...hmmm Well it turns out that the previous owner had stripped out the threads on the knuckle housing - Recut new threads and used a larger bolt. SO...looks like I will be grinding out one hole in my calipers so the old larger bolt will fit. __________________ Randy 2006 Sequoia 1985 4Runner: Build-up has begun Build-up Thread: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=80743 www.tornadoalleycruisers.com TLCA #12443

03-15-2006, 05:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
99_Runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 1,115	Good thread, can't wait for more updates. Good luck with the build. __________________ Drew 99 4Runner SR5, auto, 3.4 V6, factory rear locker, 265/75 Yokohama Geolander AT+II Stock for now, but hopefully not for long.

03-20-2006, 07:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ric Banned - User requested Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: earth Posts: 4,494	any more updates ?

03-20-2006, 08:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ric Banned - User requested Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: earth Posts: 4,494	yea, i see that, but looks good so far, keep up the great work...

03-21-2006, 04:27 AM	#16 (permalink)
bruzer1123 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Idaho Posts: 337	I love watching buildup threads. Keep up the good work!

03-30-2006, 07:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
Ranski Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 346	Update: Received my last few parts from Marlin today. Looks like all this stuff will be put on the middle of next week. I spent the past weekend, grinding down all the surfaces AND I finally got that pesky fitting off the power steering box. All it took was a GOOD set of flare end wrenches, 3-foot cheater pipe and 4-days of PB Blaster. Couple of things I'm tracking down between now and then include: I purchased the 12" Bilsteins and saw on Tatums build thread he ended up swithcing out to the 14" length...posted on Marlin to see which will work. I have a question concerning mounting the "regular" shock hoops. The mounting points aren't flush with the frame as the shock bracket comes in contact with the wheel well. Not flush w/ frame Shock bracket in contact with wheel well __________________ Randy 2006 Sequoia 1985 4Runner: Build-up has begun Build-up Thread: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=80743 www.tornadoalleycruisers.com TLCA #12443 Last edited by Ranski; 08-01-2008 at 09:29 PM.

03-30-2006, 07:28 PM	#18 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,472	What I did... All the other pics on my website under the front axle. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it.

03-30-2006, 07:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,472	Whatever came w/ the AP 5" Extreme Lift kit...seems like they are 14" of travel...I can go look at the part # if you gotta have it. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it.

03-30-2006, 09:21 PM	#22 (permalink)
HUTCHSTACO Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bellevue, Washington Posts: 1,044	i would love to see a picture of the whole truck at the point its at now

04-01-2006, 08:33 PM	#24 (permalink)
Ranski Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 346	Odds & Ends Forgot to mention awhile back I picked up a spare 22re for FREE Needs a rebuild, but heck you can't pass up FREE. Never rebuilt and engine before, but everyone says these are pretty straight forward motors. Also, I though I would offer up how I installed my inner axle seal when rebuilding the front end. I basically put a socket extension in the wrong end of a 32mm impact socket. This matched up perfectyly to the diameter of the seal and with a few hits of the hammer it was snuggly in place. __________________ Randy 2006 Sequoia 1985 4Runner: Build-up has begun Build-up Thread: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=80743 www.tornadoalleycruisers.com TLCA #12443 Last edited by Ranski; 01-10-2007 at 08:23 PM.

04-01-2006, 08:38 PM	#25 (permalink)
4runnermt Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 634	I like seeing a poor old neglected rig be made nice again, keep up the good work!

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