My 2nd Gen 4Runner Buildup. SAS, Duel E-Lockers, Full Exo and more…

yotaman · 10-17-2005, 09:36 PM

Well it’s time to start cutting up my 4Runner.

Phase One (Time Frame: immediately - shooting to be finished by end of Nov. to middle of Dec.):
- SAS using 84 axle, pieced together Marlin Crawler kit & a custom rear leaf pack.
- Front HP E-Locker and Rear LP E-Locker.
- R150 5 Speed swap & dual transmission setup using w56 and Gear T-Case.
- 15x8 Cragar Black Stealies & 35x12.5.15 MTR's
- 30 Spline Longfield Chromoly Super Birfs and Inner Axles

(I have a lead foot)
- Hydro Steering Assist - From my research I’ve found that this can be done for around $100.00 and can be made to work without a delay. Keep watch I’ll have part #'s and a write up.

Phase Two (Time Frame: First Quarter of 2006):
- Rear Leaf Spring Swap
- Rear FROR Floater Kit

Phase Three (Time Frame: Secound to Third Quarter of 2006):
- 3.4 (5VZFE) Swap. If my 3.0 takes a dump this’ll happen soon.
- Custom Winch Bumper and a Warn winch to go along with it.
- Bob Rear End 12-16 inches
- Full Exo-Cage.

Things that’ll happen between the other stuff.
- There are other things that I can’t think of right now.

This is what the 4Runner looked like when I got it.

This is what it looked like with the BJ Lift, 33 BFG Mud's and Cruiser Coils.

This is what it’ll some what look like after phase one.

I look forward to sharing my build with everyone and look forward to your comments (good OR bad).

************************************************** *****************************
* PARTS LIST: .................................................. ............. *

I’ll ad to this as items are purchased.

(s) = shipped
[1] = quantity

******** Front Axle SAS ************************************************** *****
* 84 Front Axle ..........................................[1]...$240.00....... *
* Knuckle Kit W/Wheel Bearings ...........................[1]...$145.00....... *
* Crossover Steering Kit – Forged ........................[1]...$369.00....... *
* Marlin SAS Hanger Kit ..................................[1]...$195.00....... *
* Ford F250 Shock Towers .................................[2]...$28.00........ *
* Marlin Front U-Bolt Flip Kit ...........................[1]...$49.00........ *
* Land Cruiser vented rotors .............................[2]...$80.00........ *
* 8" Extended Brake Lines ................................[3]...$79.00........ *
* Crossover Steering Stabilizer ..........................[1]...$79.00........ *
* Rear 84 and 86 Leaf Springs ...................2sets....[2]...$free......... *

******** Rear Leaf Swap Parts / Other ******************************************
* LP E-locker 3rd Member .................................[1]...$425.00(s).... *

******** Tools and Spare Parts *************************************************
* Spare Inner Axle Seals .........................$5ea....[2]...$10.00........ *

******** Other/Misc ************************************************** *********
* 15x8 Cragar Black Stealies (link) ......................[4]...$148.00....... *
* Black Chrome Lug Nuts .................................[24]...$30.00........ *
* Blue Top Optima (D34M) .................................[1]...$153.46....... *

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Localmotion · 10-17-2005, 10:02 PM

wow..good luck. Cant wait for the pics!

DarylD · 10-17-2005, 10:06 PM

Looks like a good plan . I'm happy with my e-lockers & front &rear leafs . Go hi-pinion in the front if you can . I really liked Bigrocks off roads 4runner too , he built my shock hoops . Daryl

yotaman · 10-17-2005, 10:07 PM

Here are some answers to questions I see asked on others buildups.

Q. Why a SAS you ask?

A. With the money I’ve spent on CV axles and the IFS lift I could have put a LARGE dent in the cost of a SAS by now. That’s not even counting the time, blood, sweat, and tears that I’ve put into the stock suspension.

If you ask me should I do a SAS or work with the stock suspension? I’d say if you think you’ll ever use the strength and articulation that a SAS will give then do the SAS and don’t mess around wasting money on the stock suspension.

Q. Why E-Lockers and not an ARB Air Locker or some other Locker?

A. Well to be blunt, I trust Toyota Parts so I wouldn’t have it any other way “E-Lockers are Bling Bling”! Plus I like the feeling that I’m not relying on an air compressor to keep me locked. If the E-Locker motor goes out I can manually lock the locker. Just remember KISS “Keep it Simply Silly”!

yotaman · 10-17-2005, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarylD

Looks like a good plan . I'm happy with my e-lockers & front &rear leafs . Go hi-pinion in the front if you can . I really liked Bigrocks off roads 4runner too , he built my shock hoops . Daryl

I was planning to go HP in the front but I got a KILLER deal on 2 very low mileage LP E-Lockers so for now I’m going to use them and in the future when I have the cash laying around to buy a new HP E-Locker I’ll get one because I cant find a used one for less than $600.00+.

Do you have any pictures of your rig?

DarylD · 10-17-2005, 10:23 PM

There's a few pics in this gallery http://gitout.com/v-web/gallery/album82 and here http://4-low.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=17 most of the pics I have are from trail runs . I can take close ups if you like .

yotaman · 10-17-2005, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarylD

There's a few pics in this gallery http://gitout.com/v-web/gallery/album82 and here http://4-low.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=17 most of the pics I have are from trail runs . I can take close ups if you like .

Nice rig and rigs! Do you find it a benefit in running a cruisier axle?

DarylD · 10-17-2005, 10:35 PM

Ya the cruizer axle is wider (63.5") & the birfields bigger & stronger .

YeloSub7 · 10-17-2005, 11:37 PM

are those 37's on that sas'd gold runner in your first post there???

btw-gold runners are awsome (or beige, whatever)

yotaman · 10-17-2005, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YeloSub7

are those 37's on that sas'd gold runner in your first post there???

btw-gold runners are awsome (or beige, whatever)

Yes, those are 37 MTR's.

I think they call it Champaign.

99_Runner · 10-18-2005, 01:20 PM

Can't wait for pics of the build. Quick question. With the bobbing of the rear, are you going to keep in all enclosed, or do like 4Hummer, I think, did it and take the back part of the roof out where the windows are?

**waskillywabbit** · 10-18-2005, 01:37 PM

I'd make sure the Longfields and inner axle upgrade comes pretty close to Phase 1 if not a part of it...cause I've seen you drive and you'll grenade a birf and/or tear up an inner and you don't wanna mess up your lockers right off the bat.

Looks promising...

4RunnerKid · 10-18-2005, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotaman

Yes, those are 37 MTR's.

I think they call it Champaign.

those are actually X-Terrains...

seaflea · 10-18-2005, 04:41 PM

Way to go Gregg! I just came across this thread so I will make sure to check it often

red90runner · 10-18-2005, 05:40 PM

can't wait for some progress pics. Get 'er done!

yotaman · 10-18-2005, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99_Runner

Can't wait for pics of the build. Quick question. With the bobbing of the rear, are you going to keep in all enclosed, or do like 4Hummer, I think, did it and take the back part of the roof out where the windows are?

I’m going to keep it enclosed. The rear most windows will not be there anymore. It’ll be sheet metal.

yotaman · 10-18-2005, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

I'd make sure the Longfields and inner axle upgrade comes pretty close to Phase 1 if not a part of it...cause I've seen you drive and you'll grenade a birf and/or tear up an inner and you don't wanna mess up your lockers right off the bat.

Looks promising...

I’ve been thinking about it and well today I sold some stuff so now all I have to do is give Mr. Long a call.

yotaman · 10-18-2005, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4RunnerKid

those are actually X-Terrains...

I just posted what Greg from BigRocks told me. I though they looked a little different than MTR’s.

yotaman · 10-18-2005, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaflea

Way to go Gregg! I just came across this thread so I will make sure to check it often

Thanks Will,

I’m excited, I cant wait for the cutting to begin

. It’s been a lot of fun coming up with all the $$$$ to do it but I finally have lots of $$$$ to spend on the SAS and I’m ready to begin cutting.

I plan to keep track of the money spent so people will know what it really cost to SAS a 1st or 2nd Gen.

The fun begins this weekend with tearing apart the axle and rebuilding it.

Let the good times roll.

bamachem · 10-18-2005, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

I'd make sure the Longfields and inner axle upgrade comes pretty close to Phase 1 if not a part of it...cause I've seen you drive and you'll grenade a birf and/or tear up an inner and you don't wanna mess up your lockers right off the bat.

Looks promising...

i've seen you drive as well...

i concur.

yotaman · 10-18-2005, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bamachem

i've seen you drive as well...

i concur.

You guys think 30 Spline Longfield Chromoly Super Set Birfs and Inner Axles will work.

We'll just have to wait and see.

yotaman · 10-18-2005, 06:35 PM

Here are a few pictures of the 84 axle still under the truck. The guy wouldn’t sell me just the axle; I had to buy the truck. Just what I needed another yard ornament!

The good news is the frame might be going under 82Trekkers Formula Toy rig. I haven’t had time to look the frame over yet to see if it’s in sound condition.

And one of the donor beast. It had a good life and its parts will live on.

dragr1 · 10-18-2005, 07:12 PM

OK, newsflash-Greg has a lead foot! Strength is key!

yotaman · 10-18-2005, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragr1

OK, newsflash-Greg has a lead foot! Strength is key!

LOL, Glade to see you chime in.

outdoorfever · 10-18-2005, 08:47 PM

i tell you that is a good lookin truck just as you have it. i wish you luck. that is a good goal you have in front of you. Good luck in your adventures.

10-17-2005, 10:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
DarylD Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bothell,Wa Posts: 210	Looks like a good plan . I'm happy with my e-lockers & front &rear leafs . Go hi-pinion in the front if you can . I really liked Bigrocks off roads 4runner too , he built my shock hoops . Daryl __________________ 94 4runner 4cyl 5sp, SAS , rear leaf swap ,Fj 80 front axle ,E-lockers 72 Datsun 510 2dr , v6 conversion in progress

10-17-2005, 10:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
yotaman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 1,189	Answers to Questions I see asked on others buildups. Here are some answers to questions I see asked on others buildups. Q. Why a SAS you ask? A. With the money I’ve spent on CV axles and the IFS lift I could have put a LARGE dent in the cost of a SAS by now. That’s not even counting the time, blood, sweat, and tears that I’ve put into the stock suspension. If you ask me should I do a SAS or work with the stock suspension? I’d say if you think you’ll ever use the strength and articulation that a SAS will give then do the SAS and don’t mess around wasting money on the stock suspension. Q. Why E-Lockers and not an ARB Air Locker or some other Locker? A. Well to be blunt, I trust Toyota Parts so I wouldn’t have it any other way “E-Lockers are Bling Bling”! Plus I like the feeling that I’m not relying on an air compressor to keep me locked. If the E-Locker motor goes out I can manually lock the locker. Just remember KISS “Keep it Simply Silly”! __________________ Greg

10-17-2005, 10:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
DarylD Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bothell,Wa Posts: 210	There's a few pics in this gallery http://gitout.com/v-web/gallery/album82 and here http://4-low.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=17 most of the pics I have are from trail runs . I can take close ups if you like . __________________ 94 4runner 4cyl 5sp, SAS , rear leaf swap ,Fj 80 front axle ,E-lockers 72 Datsun 510 2dr , v6 conversion in progress Last edited by DarylD; 10-17-2005 at 10:28 PM.

10-17-2005, 10:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
DarylD Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bothell,Wa Posts: 210	Ya the cruizer axle is wider (63.5") & the birfields bigger & stronger . __________________ 94 4runner 4cyl 5sp, SAS , rear leaf swap ,Fj 80 front axle ,E-lockers 72 Datsun 510 2dr , v6 conversion in progress

10-17-2005, 11:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 897	are those 37's on that sas'd gold runner in your first post there??? btw-gold runners are awsome (or beige, whatever) __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-35" BFG M/T-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders-TG Front Bumper SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

10-17-2005, 10:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Localmotion Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 0	wow..good luck. Cant wait for the pics!

10-18-2005, 01:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
99_Runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 1,115	Can't wait for pics of the build. Quick question. With the bobbing of the rear, are you going to keep in all enclosed, or do like 4Hummer, I think, did it and take the back part of the roof out where the windows are? __________________ Drew 99 4Runner SR5, auto, 3.4 V6, factory rear locker, 265/75 Yokohama Geolander AT+II Stock for now, but hopefully not for long.

10-18-2005, 01:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,559	I'd make sure the Longfields and inner axle upgrade comes pretty close to Phase 1 if not a part of it...cause I've seen you drive and you'll grenade a birf and/or tear up an inner and you don't wanna mess up your lockers right off the bat. Looks promising... __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

10-18-2005, 04:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
seaflea Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: wilmington nc Posts: 1,602	Way to go Gregg! I just came across this thread so I will make sure to check it often __________________ Will WabFab Off-Road, LLC Toyota 4x4 Parts and Custom Fabrication updated website with lots of new products 87 runner with every bolt on available

10-18-2005, 05:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
red90runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 56	can't wait for some progress pics. Get 'er done!

10-18-2005, 06:35 PM	#22 (permalink)
yotaman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 1,189	Here are a few pictures of the 84 axle still under the truck. The guy wouldn’t sell me just the axle; I had to buy the truck. Just what I needed another yard ornament! The good news is the frame might be going under 82Trekkers Formula Toy rig. I haven’t had time to look the frame over yet to see if it’s in sound condition. And one of the donor beast. It had a good life and its parts will live on. __________________ Greg

10-18-2005, 07:12 PM	#23 (permalink)
dragr1 Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Auburn, AL Posts: 3,627	OK, newsflash-Greg has a lead foot! Strength is key! __________________ 1985 4Runner Dual e-lockers, dual cases, yada yada 1996 4runner, lifted, 2 lockers, 315 KM2's, IFS and more '00 Suburban 2500 4x4 '07 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd TRD '02 Lexus IS300 1991 Tiffin Allegro 31' Class A

10-18-2005, 08:47 PM	#25 (permalink)
outdoorfever Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Concord NC Posts: 1,058	i tell you that is a good lookin truck just as you have it. i wish you luck. that is a good goal you have in front of you. Good luck in your adventures. __________________ -Kyle Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE!!

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