Intake/battery swap plus custom snorkel

BigBluePile · 10-17-2009, 08:23 PM

I'm going to start this thread and then leave ya'll hanging do to time constraints and part availability.

Here's a sneak peak at my new custom airbox. My AFM will bolt on to that and my filter will sit inside. The box will have a clear lid thats removable. On the opposite side of the AFM there's a bulkhead fitting that will allow for a hose connection into the fender. That will head to the rear of the fender and then there will be a custom metal tube with a snorkel out thru the wiper cowling on the passenger side. Theoretically, of course...

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vital22re · 10-17-2009, 08:29 PM

you're a bulkhead fitting for leavin us hangin! You ever heard of wire looms by the way? perhaps zip ties and or electrical to clean up your wires.

BigBluePile · 10-17-2009, 08:29 PM

he he he...

camo31"10.50" · 10-17-2009, 08:31 PM

i agree..lmao

i just wish i could see some 3.0 snorkel's..i've seen LOTS of 22re snorkel's and battery/intake swaps and what not..

but im interested in how you design everything..lmao

BigBluePile · 10-17-2009, 08:35 PM

lol! Well, first I take that 3.0 and

and put in a 22R-E...then you'd have all those write ups!!!

LOL!!!

vital22re · 10-17-2009, 08:39 PM

or remove the 3.0 and sell it and swap in a 3.4...

camo31"10.50" · 10-17-2009, 08:42 PM

the 3.4 swap will FOR SURE happen..just not for a while..lmao..

and i still dont know of many 3.4 snorkel threads..LOL

BigBluePile · 10-17-2009, 08:44 PM

Hmmmmm 3.4, hmmmmmmmmmmmm....

Come on Vital, makes us a 3.4 snorkel thread!!!

vital22re · 10-17-2009, 10:04 PM

haha a snorkel for a 3.4 swap maybe.. i dont see myself drivin through any lakes anytime soon though..

BigBluePile · 10-17-2009, 10:10 PM

idk man, last time we were at Tahuya there were some lakes!! lol!

Lumpy · 10-17-2009, 10:15 PM

I wanna see this!!! Come on get move on it...

I plan on doing the battery swap someday soon and I need ideas on how to get an inline filter to the intake for the snorkel. I think it was Junkers that had a good idea $100.00 for the filter canister though. I'll have to look back and see what i can find.

Lumpy · 10-17-2009, 10:22 PM

Check this out...

http://www.yotatech.com/f116/spectre...le-use-184729/

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BigBluePile · 10-17-2009, 10:24 PM

Well, thats what I'm doing here, sorta. I made a fiberglass box which will house my conical Spectre filter. Basically a glorified splash guard. I was also thinking about doing the deckplate mod to this box to let more air in, but I'm not sure if theres room...

Teuf · 10-17-2009, 10:25 PM

Hey BigBlue my brother is a police officer on Whidbey island tell m i said Aye.

BigBluePile · 10-17-2009, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumpy

Check this out...

http://www.yotatech.com/f116/spectre...le-use-184729/

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ehhehe, man I remember that thread. That shot with the piping going up the a-pillar into that rectangular snorkel is where I got my idea from as well as Blizzards snorkel. Except around here, in that configuration, is a tree magnet which is why I want to keep my low. I may have to take my bug guard off if it deflects the air to much.

BigBluePile · 10-17-2009, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teuf

Hey BigBlue my brother is a police officer on Whidbey island tell m i said Aye.

Ah cool! He's probably seen my rig around then! As long as he wasn't the one that pulled me over a couple months ago...

BigBluePile · 10-18-2009, 06:42 PM

Hopefully I'll work this box a little too this week.

BigBluePile · 10-19-2009, 05:39 PM

Ok, well, got some work done on the bulkhead fitting that will connect the snorkel tube today. However, I'm wondering if 3" tubing will be adequate enough to supply air to the box...?

kiyobrown · 10-19-2009, 09:21 PM

Isn't the throttle body 2.5"? So 3" should be plenty big throwing air to the TB. A 3" pipe can flow over 40% more air then a 2.5" pipe. So even with the length of the snorkel plus a couple of turns, I am pretty sure the flow won't drop down below the flow of the TB.

I hope my math is right. pi times radius squared is area right? 3" is 7.06, 2.5" is 4.9. 7.06 divided by 4.9 is 1.44, or 44% larger. I do not know what that equates into flow, but a half an inch makes a big difference.

I usually do those equations with water in hose, sorry I don't have any snorkel expertise!!

BigBluePile · 10-19-2009, 09:29 PM

Hmmmmm, I have no idea...lol! I haven't used real math in so long it hurts to think about it. I guess my whole original idea was to go with the bigger AFM(not so much TB, even though I do have a Big Bore from Downey...RIP) to help compensate for the extra tubing due to the snorkel which is still less tubing than if I left the airbox on the drivers side...

I guess I'm worried about pressure differential inside the box as the vacuum is created to pull air in thru the snorkel. Hence, maybe I should try to squeeze a bigger(I don't think it'll fit anyways) hose in the fender to provide adequate air volume...or am I just reading into this WAY to much...

kiyobrown · 10-19-2009, 09:58 PM

Hmm, I think I made your head hurt.

I think 3 inch is just fine.

Let me know if you want the next size up, I'll try and keep the numbers to a minimum.

Lumpy · 10-20-2009, 06:04 AM

You can always use an electric blower motor to keep the air moving...

I think 3" will be fine.

BigBluePile · 10-20-2009, 05:55 PM

lol! Well I was gonna hook a shop vac motor to the snorkel tip to "supercharge" it...

BigBluePile · 10-20-2009, 06:03 PM

Well, heres the box mostly done. Just have to install some rivnuts for screws to hold the lid down and fasten the bulkhead fitting on. Of course, that's just the box, not to include all the wiring and tubing thru the fender and my custom snorkel head and piping....

Oh, and I'll stick with the 3" diameter.

BigBluePile · 10-24-2009, 06:47 PM

Today I bolted the bulkhead fitting in place. I also went to the local boat supply store(freakin awesome place, btw) and picked up a high amp wire coupler and a 4" deckplate for the airbox. I figured if I didn't like the way the air was coming in I could open up the deckplate and let it breath some more. Then I realized that all I REALLY need to do is just take the lid off...

Duh. LOL!! Oh well, atleast I have a 4" deckplate now...

10-17-2009, 08:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
vital22re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: kirkland washington Posts: 684	you're a bulkhead fitting for leavin us hangin! You ever heard of wire looms by the way? perhaps zip ties and or electrical to clean up your wires. __________________ 92 toyota truck 3.4 5spd 4.56 gears magna flow cat and muffler2 1/4 piping isr mod to intake 1.5 bjsfront add a leafs and 2inch lift shackles rear rancho shocks all around sitting on 265/75/r16 nitto terra grapplers Last edited by vital22re; 10-17-2009 at 08:30 PM.

10-17-2009, 08:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,095	i agree..lmao i just wish i could see some 3.0 snorkel's..i've seen LOTS of 22re snorkel's and battery/intake swaps and what not.. but im interested in how you design everything..lmao __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

10-17-2009, 08:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
vital22re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: kirkland washington Posts: 684	or remove the 3.0 and sell it and swap in a 3.4... __________________ 92 toyota truck 3.4 5spd 4.56 gears magna flow cat and muffler2 1/4 piping isr mod to intake 1.5 bjsfront add a leafs and 2inch lift shackles rear rancho shocks all around sitting on 265/75/r16 nitto terra grapplers

10-17-2009, 08:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,095	the 3.4 swap will FOR SURE happen..just not for a while..lmao.. and i still dont know of many 3.4 snorkel threads..LOL __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

10-17-2009, 10:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
vital22re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: kirkland washington Posts: 684	haha a snorkel for a 3.4 swap maybe.. i dont see myself drivin through any lakes anytime soon though.. __________________ 92 toyota truck 3.4 5spd 4.56 gears magna flow cat and muffler2 1/4 piping isr mod to intake 1.5 bjsfront add a leafs and 2inch lift shackles rear rancho shocks all around sitting on 265/75/r16 nitto terra grapplers

10-17-2009, 10:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
Teuf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Napa, Ca Posts: 501	Hey BigBlue my brother is a police officer on Whidbey island tell m i said Aye.

10-19-2009, 09:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
kiyobrown Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 271	Isn't the throttle body 2.5"? So 3" should be plenty big throwing air to the TB. A 3" pipe can flow over 40% more air then a 2.5" pipe. So even with the length of the snorkel plus a couple of turns, I am pretty sure the flow won't drop down below the flow of the TB. I hope my math is right. pi times radius squared is area right? 3" is 7.06, 2.5" is 4.9. 7.06 divided by 4.9 is 1.44, or 44% larger. I do not know what that equates into flow, but a half an inch makes a big difference. I usually do those equations with water in hose, sorry I don't have any snorkel expertise!! __________________ Jason. 87 4runner 22re SR5 5 speed 189k, supra MAF mod, battery/intake swap, Black Magic 165, Zuk mod, BJ spacers. 3rd gen rims with 265/70/16s. Pioneer/Boston Acoustics/Kenwood/Fosgate sound system, softopper. Craigslist and rattle cans have done wonders.

10-19-2009, 09:58 PM	#21 (permalink)
kiyobrown Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 271	Hmm, I think I made your head hurt. I think 3 inch is just fine. Let me know if you want the next size up, I'll try and keep the numbers to a minimum. __________________ Jason. 87 4runner 22re SR5 5 speed 189k, supra MAF mod, battery/intake swap, Black Magic 165, Zuk mod, BJ spacers. 3rd gen rims with 265/70/16s. Pioneer/Boston Acoustics/Kenwood/Fosgate sound system, softopper. Craigslist and rattle cans have done wonders.

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