Installing a 1st gen rollbar in a 2nd gen

Marc P · 02-18-2007, 12:48 PM

I scored a 1st gen 4runner rollbar today at Pick-a-part....it was 1/2 price day and I got it for $23.00

What is the magic number for inches to cut off?? I know on the 3rd gens it is 2 inches..is is the same with 2nd gens?? Slosurfer??

I am going to have a busy summer with the E-locker and rollbar.

ADH8796 · 02-18-2007, 01:27 PM

I don't know what it is for the 2nd gen but you could just test fit it and see about how much you need to cut it down and keep a little more than you think you need just incase. Good luck man I love mine.

***waskillywabbit*** · 02-18-2007, 02:01 PM

Measure the distance difference between the mounting points on the roll bar.

Measure the distance difference between mounting surfaces for the roll bar in your cargo area. Subtract an inch and start cutting/trimming there, as it is easier to trim off more, not so easy to add more, just don't forget to add in the thickness of the mounting plates, carpet, padding etc if there is going to be anything between the roll bar mounting plates and the cargo sheet metal.

You will probably want to angle the front mounting plates as the tops of the fenders wells slope inwards, at least on a 3rd gen they do.

slosurfer · 02-18-2007, 03:47 PM

Marc, I wish I had one of these! Sorry I couldn't help! The yards around here suck. Nice score.

Exeter · 02-18-2007, 04:06 PM

When/If you find out the "right" amount, let us know... I've been pondering this for awhile.

Marc P · 02-18-2007, 04:08 PM

I thought you had one Chris?? I guess I am thinking of someone else??

Napoleon047 · 02-18-2007, 04:10 PM

i just have to ask, WTF is the point of retrofitting a 1st gen roll bar?

4banginRunner · 02-18-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Napoleon047

i just have to ask, WTF is the point of retrofitting a 1st gen roll bar?

b/c it looks awesome!, i cant wait for warmer weather to put mine in my 90, not really a saftey mod, seeing how it is bolted to the floor, but it does serve it's purpose as a place to mount stuff and like i said, it looks awesome!

4x4Lamm · 02-18-2007, 04:32 PM

I would love one to mount a CO2 bottle, big fire extinguisher and Hi-Lift on, then slide a box in the middle with other goodies.

Lamm

slosurfer · 02-18-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc P

I thought you had one Chris?? I guess I am thinking of someone else??

You were getting ready to leave Big Bear when me and Eric were talking about mounting one in mine as a place to mount co2 bottles.

Dublin · 02-18-2007, 05:30 PM

I started with 2" front and back, and I think after fitting 2 1/2" front 2 1/4" rear. Unlike the 3rd gens you won't be able to slide it in, I had to remove a side window to angle it in place. There's a couple good threads here you can find with this really cool button "search". good luck on your install.

http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...ollbar+2nd+gen

Marc P · 02-18-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Napoleon047

i just have to ask, WTF is the point of retrofitting a 1st gen roll bar?

It is a good mounting spot for fire extinguisher, hi-lift, and maybe a C02 bottle in the future....

Plus the noted bling effect...

Here is a pic I stole from ecchamberlins profile..his is a 3rd gen, but still cool

91 4Runner · 02-18-2007, 10:20 PM

Once it is cut to fit, you can get it in there without removing the window... I did mine (it was tight) I had to remobe the upper seatbelt strap bolt on bothsides and it was a pain but eventually twisted it into place... I'll try to measure it for you in the morning.... And I'll attach pictures

91 4Runner · 02-18-2007, 10:36 PM

rezrunner92 · 02-18-2007, 11:44 PM

Easy but time consuming way. Cut it close on one side. Temporarily bolt that side to the floor the way you want it or close.Stick the other side in there close and make an eyeball mark where to begin cutting. After a couple of test fits when you have it right, take it out, square it up and weld it. Then mount and start hanging accessories on it.

Keggo · 02-19-2007, 01:17 AM

When I got mine installed, it seemed like an inch would do on the rear legs and maybe 2.5" on the front legs... I told the guy this and yet the idiot cut off about 5 inches from the front and none on the back... we had to extend the front legs with thicker and wider diameter tubing. I wanted the rear legs to be cut so the bar wouldn't rub on the plastic interior siding. It's a REALLY tight fit in there, and I doubt I could get the thing out. He welded the extensions on with the rollbar inside the truck so...

deathrunner · 02-19-2007, 11:23 AM

Why not get another one and make some really sick tube steps!

Keggo · 02-19-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by deathrunner

Why not get another one and make some really sick tube steps!

Or just weld it onto the top of the truck... like a spoiler!!

deathrunner · 02-19-2007, 01:23 PM

Good Call, Keggo!

Better yet, it could be Marc's new Front Bumper.

02-18-2007, 12:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Marc P Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Santee, CA Posts: 2,745	Installing a 1st gen rollbar in a 2nd gen I scored a 1st gen 4runner rollbar today at Pick-a-part....it was 1/2 price day and I got it for $23.00 What is the magic number for inches to cut off?? I know on the 3rd gens it is 2 inches..is is the same with 2nd gens?? Slosurfer?? I am going to have a busy summer with the E-locker and rollbar. __________________ 1995 4Runner---SAS with goodies

02-18-2007, 01:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
ADH8796 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 960	I don't know what it is for the 2nd gen but you could just test fit it and see about how much you need to cut it down and keep a little more than you think you need just incase. Good luck man I love mine. __________________ Black '99 4Runner Highlander Edition SOLD '98 4Runner Limited Edition

02-18-2007, 02:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
*waskillywabbit* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 11,479	Measure the distance difference between the mounting points on the roll bar. Measure the distance difference between mounting surfaces for the roll bar in your cargo area. Subtract an inch and start cutting/trimming there, as it is easier to trim off more, not so easy to add more, just don't forget to add in the thickness of the mounting plates, carpet, padding etc if there is going to be anything between the roll bar mounting plates and the cargo sheet metal. You will probably want to angle the front mounting plates as the tops of the fenders wells slope inwards, at least on a 3rd gen they do. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC www.myspace.com/wabfab FOR SALE: 1987 4Runner GRAY FOR SALE: 1987 4Runner RED 6th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, May 22-25, 2009

02-18-2007, 03:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
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02-18-2007, 04:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Exeter Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 222	When/If you find out the "right" amount, let us know... I've been pondering this for awhile. __________________ -Keith '94 4Runner l 3VZE + A340H l 164,000 miles l 1" 4Crawler BL l LC Coils l BJ Spacers l Rancho's l Mickey Thompson MTZ l Rear Powertrax Lock Right

02-18-2007, 04:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Marc P Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Santee, CA Posts: 2,745	I thought you had one Chris?? I guess I am thinking of someone else?? __________________ 1995 4Runner---SAS with goodies

02-18-2007, 04:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Napoleon047 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 1,002	i just have to ask, WTF is the point of retrofitting a 1st gen roll bar? __________________ -Peter 86 4runner SAS - Trail Rig 94 FZJ80 - DD the dirt cheap SAS Marko Customs

02-18-2007, 04:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
4x4Lamm Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,568	I would love one to mount a CO2 bottle, big fire extinguisher and Hi-Lift on, then slide a box in the middle with other goodies. Lamm __________________ The Rescue Runner: 1995 4Runner SR5 Limited, 3.0 V6, Auto, 4x4, 4.88 Gears, Downey HD Coils, SAW Torsion Bars, OME Shocks and Steering Damper, 15x8 Outlaw II Wheels, 31x11.50R15 Mickey Thompson MTXs, Marlin Sliders, BCC Rear Bumper, TJM T-13, Warn M8000 w/ Rockstomper Line, Emergency Warning Package Destroyed By Fire: 92 4Runner, Lots of mods. I will miss it...

02-18-2007, 05:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dublin Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Menasha, Wi. USA Posts: 868	I started with 2" front and back, and I think after fitting 2 1/2" front 2 1/4" rear. Unlike the 3rd gens you won't be able to slide it in, I had to remove a side window to angle it in place. There's a couple good threads here you can find with this really cool button "search". good luck on your install. http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...ollbar+2nd+gen __________________ 94 4Runner 4x4, V6 Auto, Outlaw II's with BFG 33x12.5x15 on stock suspension (no lift), Kenwood KDC-MVP Sirius/MP3 player, Bushwacker extenda-flares, 1700 watt power inverter, Air intake mod, Radio Shack CB, GPS, Swing arm tire carrier, modified 1st gen Toyota 4Runner Rollbar, Aisin manual hubs. Off roading Rocks! Last edited by Dublin : 02-18-2007 at 05:35 PM.

02-18-2007, 10:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
91 4Runner Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ameliasburgh, On. Ca. Posts: 434	Once it is cut to fit, you can get it in there without removing the window... I did mine (it was tight) I had to remobe the upper seatbelt strap bolt on bothsides and it was a pain but eventually twisted it into place... I'll try to measure it for you in the morning.... And I'll attach pictures __________________ Mostly Stock 91 4Runner SR5 V6 Auto w/ 33" Durango MT's (bent lower valance removed), bush bar w/ 55w Baja Offroad Lights, Custom fit 1st. gen rollbar (used to mount Hi-Lift and fire extinguisher), extended diff breathers, (Comming soon rear spool and 2" body lift..) My very slow buildup on my site - currently building. http://maddog11.proboards36.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=projects&thread=120 6828202&page=1

02-18-2007, 10:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
91 4Runner Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ameliasburgh, On. Ca. Posts: 434	__________________ Mostly Stock 91 4Runner SR5 V6 Auto w/ 33" Durango MT's (bent lower valance removed), bush bar w/ 55w Baja Offroad Lights, Custom fit 1st. gen rollbar (used to mount Hi-Lift and fire extinguisher), extended diff breathers, (Comming soon rear spool and 2" body lift..) My very slow buildup on my site - currently building. http://maddog11.proboards36.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=projects&thread=120 6828202&page=1

02-18-2007, 11:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
rezrunner92 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 402	Easy but time consuming way. Cut it close on one side. Temporarily bolt that side to the floor the way you want it or close.Stick the other side in there close and make an eyeball mark where to begin cutting. After a couple of test fits when you have it right, take it out, square it up and weld it. Then mount and start hanging accessories on it. __________________ 1992 4Runner SR5, A340H, 3VZE, Stock suspension, Warn manual hubs, 31" x 15" tires. 1992 Reg Cab P/U, 22RE, 4x4 5spd, work truck. 1992 4Runner SR5, A340H, 3VZE, Running Boards, Sunroof, Roof Rack, Stock Mall Runner 160,000 actual miles, wiped out bottom end, good heads, good transmission and SWEET, paid $800

02-19-2007, 01:17 AM	#16 (permalink)
Keggo Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 1,867	When I got mine installed, it seemed like an inch would do on the rear legs and maybe 2.5" on the front legs... I told the guy this and yet the idiot cut off about 5 inches from the front and none on the back... we had to extend the front legs with thicker and wider diameter tubing. I wanted the rear legs to be cut so the bar wouldn't rub on the plastic interior siding. It's a REALLY tight fit in there, and I doubt I could get the thing out. He welded the extensions on with the rollbar inside the truck so... __________________ - Kevin E. G. SOLD!!! '91 4Runner SR5 V6 5spd: CLICK!! FOR SALE NOW! Proud dad of Kai E. G.!

02-19-2007, 11:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
deathrunner Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 2,931	Why not get another one and make some really sick tube steps! __________________ IFS IS FOR LOSERS Decroded Piece of Crap

02-19-2007, 01:23 PM	#19 (permalink)
deathrunner Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 2,931	Good Call, Keggo! Better yet, it could be Marc's new Front Bumper. __________________ IFS IS FOR LOSERS Decroded Piece of Crap