General Buildup - Page 2

jfowl31 · 12-31-2008, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by scottapher

oh and i just noticed that your missing a body lift block on the passenger front end.....just something you might want to address

It doesn't have a Solid axle up front, so it probably doesn't need all the body mounts either.

I just don't understand the point......... 1" square tubing and now some 3/8" bar stock. Attached to the stock bumper in a couple spots, some "funny angles" (Snatch reference) and its supposed to be badass?

I will say though that the light guards you threw on there will hold off some mean rose bushes and tall grass.

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Mic09dcsm · 12-31-2008, 03:13 PM

It isn't done so yall should calm down with the talking smack.

jfowl31 · 12-31-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mic09dcsm

It isn't done so yall should calm down with the talking smack.

Are you going to wrap it in some 2" tubing? Or is this just a mock-up of what the real bumper is going to be?

If not, then the trash talking continues.

coolboatguy · 12-31-2008, 10:53 PM

ok i thought jfowl was being harsh at first but hey that last comment pretty much summed it up. but i actually cant wait until its done. these hold your horses moments usually turn out to be not bad. kudos to posting as your doing it.

86Toyrunna · 12-31-2008, 11:52 PM

i think all that people are tryin to say is that generaly you do not see that grade and size and style of metal for armor.. mainly because it does not hold up well to abuse, when it comes to armoring your rig just throwing steel at it and saying its strong enough, really isnt enough. it takes a bit of R&D. there are alot of guys and gals on here that are some pretty hardcore wheelers and know what works and what dont. there is a reason that people spend the money on high strengh tube and get it tig welded. now i understand that not every one can come up with the $$$ for that nice tube or have the abilities to TIG... but really from the looks of the bumper and sliders you might wish you would have done something different if you do have a hard contact on them. but as the old saying goes... To each his own... hope i didnt step on any toes or irratated anyone

Mic09dcsm · 01-02-2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 86Toyrunna

i think all that people are tryin to say is that generaly you do not see that grade and size and style of metal for armor.. mainly because it does not hold up well to abuse, when it comes to armoring your rig just throwing steel at it and saying its strong enough, really isnt enough. it takes a bit of R&D. there are alot of guys and gals on here that are some pretty hardcore wheelers and know what works and what dont. there is a reason that people spend the money on high strengh tube and get it tig welded. now i understand that not every one can come up with the $$$ for that nice tube or have the abilities to TIG... but really from the looks of the bumper and sliders you might wish you would have done something different if you do have a hard contact on them. but as the old saying goes... To each his own... hope i didnt step on any toes or irratated anyone

Not at all man. I'm a high school student and that's my main focus. I have a 110v Miller. The steps are actually pretty strong and can hold the weight of the truck. I don't do that serious of wheeling that I need armor, I don't have a solid axle. When and if I put on a solid axle I'll probably have the funds for a higher volt welder, tube bender, bandsaw etc. so the work will be easier and the parts more suited for hardcore wheeling, which I don't do yet.

Mic09dcsm · 01-02-2009, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jfowl31

PLEASE take some pics of those sliders holding the weight of the truck!

What does a solid axle have anything to do with it???????? You put what looks to be 37's on your truck with the suspension you've got. It actually looks fairly nice til you throw some afterthought crap on the front bumper. You took a decent looking truck and turned it into something that I would INSTANTLY make fun of if I saw it in person! Who cares if its a street driving vehicle or not. Throwing a FUGLY "grill guard" on it welded onto the stock bumper made out of material thats actually weaker than the stock stuff just blows my mind.

It looks better and more trail worthy with no bumper on it. Honestly... cut it off and try again.

Can you do any better?... if so please post some pics of your work. If not you can keep being a little b i t c h because it seems to be all you're good at, what are half of your posts just talking smack? You've proven nothing except you're mouth is big.

And regarding "stock materials are stronger", you obviously are very disillusioned.

SR5 · 01-02-2009, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mic09dcsm

End of Day three:

i think this looks sick
is it finished or you got more, im thinking maybe cover the gap between the bumper and radiator
oh and you could fill in the gap between the stinger and and light protectors
just a few ideas

scottapher · 01-02-2009, 09:07 AM

i give up....were beating a DEAD HORSE

4rnnr33 · 01-02-2009, 12:03 PM

this i s kinda funny. this thread reminds me of something that you would see on pirate. well almost

Mic09dcsm · 01-02-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SR5

i think this looks sick
is it finished or you got more, im thinking maybe cover the gap between the bumper and radiator
oh and you could fill in the gap between the stinger and and light protectors
just a few ideas

No, I'm going to make a attatchment to the stock bumper mounting location using 3/16" angle iron and 1.5" square tube. Many other pieces but as of yet no it isn't done.

85TurboRunner · 01-03-2009, 01:50 AM

Kinda makes you think of this.

4rnnr33 · 01-04-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 85TurboRunner

Kinda makes you think of this.

oh my god what the hell is that

SpecialScottie · 01-04-2009, 12:36 AM

Sick burn

hehe
All in all to me it looks alot stronger than those stock toyota grill guards.

4banginRunner · 01-04-2009, 09:45 AM

You guys are a bunch of

's

Just a few points of interest

1. Front end looks good

2. Blocks aren't going to win you praise around here...
3. Your rear shock tabs leave alot to be desired...make them more like this or just buy them http://www.marlincrawler.com/suspens...le-shock-mount
4. Those "sliders" need alot more reinforcement, and what is that small piece of rod on there doing?

5. Where's your rear bumpstops?
6. What exactly to you plan to accomplish with this bumper? Just for looks, or protection? If the latter...time to go back to the drawing board.
7. Missing body mount (front pass. side)?

MIDGET · 01-08-2009, 07:09 PM

HOLY SQUARE TUBE BATMAN!

I hate to laugh at people but you need to redo that grille guard. At least take some pride in your truck and grind down the welds so it looks clean. IMO using the stock bumper as a base isn't a good idea even if you dont do any hardcore wheeling. Other than that props on trying to do something new.

Red3.slow · 01-08-2009, 07:44 PM

Well, in his defence the bumper is still in progress. so lets just ease up and see what happens. I give him credit for attempting his own work.

85TurboRunner · 01-14-2009, 10:08 PM

Any updates?

Mic09dcsm · 01-14-2009, 10:15 PM

Sorry no updates, finals week, yes my school is wack the semester didn't end yet, this is the last week.

I will fix the body mount and shock tabs, the shock mounts were done to just get them on there, mistake I now know.

The only reason I used the stock bumper is so you wouldn't see the body behind it. There is still lots of reinforcement to come, specifically four more mounts to the frame, 1/8" and 3/16" steel plating and the welds will be ground down.

Like was recognized this thing is just beginning. I'm not a professional fabricator so it's not going to look badass right away. Anyway I'm off the soapbox, there will be more progress this weekend.

spanish-road · 01-14-2009, 10:50 PM

wow this reminds me of the go-cart build a few months back or was it years

but anyhow I think the effort was good and its a great learning experience.

jfowl31 is steeping out of line and for only currently 9 post he should whoop'd'do you have a handgun and a gay rifle. This is called cyber bulling cause odds are you wouldn't say that cause you would get a beat down. That type of comments won't fly at YT, but maybe on Pirate4x4.

Mic09dcsm · 01-14-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spanish-road

wow this reminds me of the go-cart build a few months back or was it years

but anyhow I think the effort was good and its a great learning experience.

Thanks man. Of course I did get a little childish too. And it is a good learning experience in fabrication all around, not that I'm going to be one but it's a fun hobby.

spanish-road · 01-15-2009, 12:25 AM

yeah you can say it is crap you just took it to way to far. And as for you kid quit trying to start it back up .

Glocks and SPC are nice just not practical for what i use guns for. Im not into what it intended design is for.

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drew303 · 01-15-2009, 12:48 AM

Jeez people, it's really not that hard to get a long. Especially here.

Btw Mic09dcsm, keep up the good work man, you should think about a heavier more sturdy front end if you want it thold up to a bashing, but I applaud your effort and ambition. I was the same way in highschool, so were my buds and without this experience, we would of never gotten to where we are. Keep persueing your stuff man, and don't take the bullsh i t criticism personally.

Cheers!

Mic09dcsm · 01-15-2009, 12:51 AM

Thanks, I try to chill but at 18 it's kind of difficult.

**aviator** · 01-15-2009, 12:59 PM

Hey everybody one of your friendly neighbourhood moderators here...

whew! a whole lotta hatin' and a flamin' goin' on here... I had to do a whole heap of editing to clean this mess up... lol
I remind you all of rule #2 quoted above...

I'll toss in my 0.02 on the build now if I may...
the OP said at the outset that they were side step/wannabe sliders not sliders or body armour so if they work for him and look good to him great.

The stinger up front looks like the genesis of a good design and while it may not be "Baja ready" now I say lets relax and see where it goes. It does appear though to be tabbed in under the hood to the top of the rad mount, if this is the case you may want to rethink that Mic since any hit may tweak the rad mount and or crumple the hood edge.

On the apparently missing body mount that really is something you should address if it is in fact missing. I don't know the laws in Cali. but up here they will take your truck off the road on the spot literally if a cop/transport inspector sees it like that.

Everybody seems to use round stock for their stinger bumpers and so on... nice idea going your own way with the square stock. Keep working on your welding skills.

12-31-2008, 03:13 PM	#27 (permalink)
Mic09dcsm Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 535	It isn't done so yall should calm down with the talking smack. __________________ "I love my 4Runner. Everyone else in my condo hates it! I guess it looks bad next to there brand new 20 or 30 thousand dollar cars that will die before my $600 Yota does, and probably before they're even done paying their cars off!" -Steveycapri Whips: '92 Xtra Cab Dlx V6, '94 Dlx I4 5spd. Camry. 98% of the teenage population will try, does, or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy and paste this into your sig. NOTE: To find the 2%...I'm the other 98%.

12-31-2008, 11:52 PM	#30 (permalink)
86Toyrunna Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: B-TOWN, ORYGUN Posts: 431	i think all that people are tryin to say is that generaly you do not see that grade and size and style of metal for armor.. mainly because it does not hold up well to abuse, when it comes to armoring your rig just throwing steel at it and saying its strong enough, really isnt enough. it takes a bit of R&D. there are alot of guys and gals on here that are some pretty hardcore wheelers and know what works and what dont. there is a reason that people spend the money on high strengh tube and get it tig welded. now i understand that not every one can come up with the $$$ for that nice tube or have the abilities to TIG... but really from the looks of the bumper and sliders you might wish you would have done something different if you do have a hard contact on them. but as the old saying goes... To each his own... hope i didnt step on any toes or irratated anyone __________________ current: 1986 4Runner, Rebuilt 22RE with engnbldr HP head, cam'd, battery/intake swap, SASed, 5.29s, detroit rear, 35in MTRs, trussed and armored axles, marlin HD clutch, soon to be dual cased, TG rear bumper, Best mod todate CHROME METAL SR5 DOOR HANDLES, thats whats up RIP: 1985 Standard Cab SR5 pickup, add-a-leafs and shackels, 33" BFGs, it died a horrible death (50mph roll over) DD: 2006 Scion Tc w/TRD Supercharge and TRD stainless cat-back exhaust

01-02-2009, 09:07 AM	#34 (permalink)
scottapher Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: austin, TX Posts: 41	i give up....were beating a DEAD HORSE __________________ SHAKE AND BAKE!!!

01-02-2009, 12:03 PM	#35 (permalink)
4rnnr33 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: castle rock, wa Posts: 272	this i s kinda funny. this thread reminds me of something that you would see on pirate. well almost __________________ 95 4runner, 5 in tg sas and rear leaf swap, chopped and tubed rear, mx6 reservoir shocks, 39.5 iroks, all pro front bumper, mile marker se9500c, hella 500's, rock lights, optima red top, glass fenders, tg 5.29's, lockright rear, detroit hp front, fuel cell 01 taco double cab, 3.4, 3" toytec, 33's, flowmaster

01-03-2009, 01:50 AM	#37 (permalink)
85TurboRunner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Vancouver WA Posts: 1,067	Kinda makes you think of this. __________________ 1985 4runner 22re 5spd.

12-31-2008, 10:53 PM	#29 (permalink)
coolboatguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cali baby cali Posts: 22	ok i thought jfowl was being harsh at first but hey that last comment pretty much summed it up. but i actually cant wait until its done. these hold your horses moments usually turn out to be not bad. kudos to posting as your doing it.

01-04-2009, 12:36 AM	#39 (permalink)
SpecialScottie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sun Valley, CA Posts: 547	Sick burn hehe All in all to me it looks alot stronger than those stock toyota grill guards. __________________ 02 KLX300 Dual Sported (Daily Driver) 87 Turbo 4runner STOCK 85 4runner: Automatic marlin5.29 elocker rear end. Rola roof rack. 33" BFG KM2's Build Thread 87 4runner (parts) 95 4runner 2wd auto(sold)

01-04-2009, 09:45 AM	#40 (permalink)
4banginRunner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: With all the Ho Butts in Mount Carmel, PA Posts: 1,706	You guys are a bunch of 's Just a few points of interest 1. Front end looks good 2. Blocks aren't going to win you praise around here... 3. Your rear shock tabs leave alot to be desired...make them more like this or just buy them http://www.marlincrawler.com/suspens...le-shock-mount 4. Those "sliders" need alot more reinforcement, and what is that small piece of rod on there doing? 5. Where's your rear bumpstops? 6. What exactly to you plan to accomplish with this bumper? Just for looks, or protection? If the latter...time to go back to the drawing board. 7. Missing body mount (front pass. side)? __________________ 87 Toyota 4Runner 22RE--5spd swap (W56)--4.56s--BJ spacers--Pro Comp Stage II 4" bracket lift--63" Chevys w/2" blocks--40 series--late style steering box swap--BudBuilt Dual Case X-member--V6 calipers--32s--MC rear bumper--SAS parts collecting time... *79 Toyota Longbed 4x4* Frame-off Resto time. *04 GMC Sierra 1500* the DD

01-08-2009, 07:09 PM	#41 (permalink)
MIDGET Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 7	HOLY SQUARE TUBE BATMAN! I hate to laugh at people but you need to redo that grille guard. At least take some pride in your truck and grind down the welds so it looks clean. IMO using the stock bumper as a base isn't a good idea even if you dont do any hardcore wheeling. Other than that props on trying to do something new. __________________ "Keep it simple Stupid" Back-n-Black

01-08-2009, 07:44 PM	#42 (permalink)
Red3.slow Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Little Rock, Ar Posts: 1,182	Well, in his defence the bumper is still in progress. so lets just ease up and see what happens. I give him credit for attempting his own work. __________________ -Miles -Firefighter/EMT T.E.A Taxed Enough Already

01-14-2009, 10:08 PM	#43 (permalink)
85TurboRunner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Vancouver WA Posts: 1,067	Any updates? __________________ 1985 4runner 22re 5spd.

01-14-2009, 10:15 PM	#44 (permalink)
Mic09dcsm Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 535	Sorry no updates, finals week, yes my school is wack the semester didn't end yet, this is the last week. I will fix the body mount and shock tabs, the shock mounts were done to just get them on there, mistake I now know. The only reason I used the stock bumper is so you wouldn't see the body behind it. There is still lots of reinforcement to come, specifically four more mounts to the frame, 1/8" and 3/16" steel plating and the welds will be ground down. Like was recognized this thing is just beginning. I'm not a professional fabricator so it's not going to look badass right away. Anyway I'm off the soapbox, there will be more progress this weekend. __________________ "I love my 4Runner. Everyone else in my condo hates it! I guess it looks bad next to there brand new 20 or 30 thousand dollar cars that will die before my $600 Yota does, and probably before they're even done paying their cars off!" -Steveycapri Whips: '92 Xtra Cab Dlx V6, '94 Dlx I4 5spd. Camry. 98% of the teenage population will try, does, or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy and paste this into your sig. NOTE: To find the 2%...I'm the other 98%.

01-14-2009, 10:50 PM	#45 (permalink)
spanish-road Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairbanks Ak Posts: 1,097	wow this reminds me of the go-cart build a few months back or was it years but anyhow I think the effort was good and its a great learning experience. jfowl31 is steeping out of line and for only currently 9 post he should whoop'd'do you have a handgun and a gay rifle. This is called cyber bulling cause odds are you wouldn't say that cause you would get a beat down. That type of comments won't fly at YT, but maybe on Pirate4x4. __________________ What I don't get is why pay someone to work on your vehicle? 1991 toyota pickup extcab- 22re 31x10.5x15 bone stock except for the RV cam and tires.

01-15-2009, 12:48 AM	#48 (permalink)
drew303 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,032	Jeez people, it's really not that hard to get a long. Especially here. Btw Mic09dcsm, keep up the good work man, you should think about a heavier more sturdy front end if you want it thold up to a bashing, but I applaud your effort and ambition. I was the same way in highschool, so were my buds and without this experience, we would of never gotten to where we are. Keep persueing your stuff man, and don't take the bullsh i t criticism personally. Cheers! __________________ 1987 Pickup, single cab, 22R, new head, 260 cam TG 3" SAS, rear disc brakes, chromoly rear axles, Chromoly Birfs, Tcase brake, 37x12.50R15 MT/Rs, 5.29 gears, rear Aussie Locker, front Detroit Truetrac. Last edited by aviator; 01-15-2009 at 12:41 PM.

01-15-2009, 12:51 AM	#49 (permalink)
Mic09dcsm Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 535	Thanks, I try to chill but at 18 it's kind of difficult. __________________ "I love my 4Runner. Everyone else in my condo hates it! I guess it looks bad next to there brand new 20 or 30 thousand dollar cars that will die before my $600 Yota does, and probably before they're even done paying their cars off!" -Steveycapri Whips: '92 Xtra Cab Dlx V6, '94 Dlx I4 5spd. Camry. 98% of the teenage population will try, does, or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy and paste this into your sig. NOTE: To find the 2%...I'm the other 98%. Last edited by aviator; 01-15-2009 at 12:42 PM.

01-15-2009, 12:59 PM	#50 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,472	Hey everybody one of your friendly neighbourhood moderators here... whew! a whole lotta hatin' and a flamin' goin' on here... I had to do a whole heap of editing to clean this mess up... lol I remind you all of rule #2 quoted above... I'll toss in my 0.02 on the build now if I may... the OP said at the outset that they were side step/wannabe sliders not sliders or body armour so if they work for him and look good to him great. The stinger up front looks like the genesis of a good design and while it may not be "Baja ready" now I say lets relax and see where it goes. It does appear though to be tabbed in under the hood to the top of the rad mount, if this is the case you may want to rethink that Mic since any hit may tweak the rad mount and or crumple the hood edge. On the apparently missing body mount that really is something you should address if it is in fact missing. I don't know the laws in Cali. but up here they will take your truck off the road on the spot literally if a cop/transport inspector sees it like that. Everybody seems to use round stock for their stinger bumpers and so on... nice idea going your own way with the square stock. Keep working on your welding skills. __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

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