Ford 302/351 swap info - Page 6

colsoncj · 11-29-2006, 05:25 PM

Well, the car I was looking at turned out not to be such a good deal, so I passed on it, but I'm still keeping my eyes open... this will happen.

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mitchell438 · 03-20-2007, 09:42 AM

I am putting in a 91 302 in my 87 right now. It isnt that hard. You can order your parts from Northwestoffroad.com You will definetly need the engine mounts and the transfer case shims

yoterr · 06-29-2007, 07:01 PM

you can use chevrolet axels i think fords have the wrong side drop, also anything is possible...its just the question of of you have the tools, time, knowlege and money my buddy is puttin 2 1/2 ton rockwells and a 350 v-8 in a chevrolet s-10

supra89t · 09-25-2007, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesD

Truck intakes are way too tall to fit under the hood unless a B/L is what you have and then I still don't know. Thee problem with the truck intake besides its height, it uses a twin bore throttle body not a round one in the cars....The truck intake cannot be switched. So stay away from the truck intakes and use the car ones or aftermarket.

James

Does anyone know how much taller the truck intake is than the car intake? I have a line on a (cheap/totaled) '95 F150 w/ 122k on it and I think I have my wife convinced to let me do this swap. I was planning on eventually doing a 4crawler 1" body lift anyway and I don't mind shimming the back of the hood so it sits a little (1/4-1/2") higher. I had to promise to part out and dispose of the rest of the truck so it wasn't sitting in our driveway.

The truck is auto, but it is complete. I want to sell the auto tranny and put a T5 5-speed behind it in my truck. My '81 is 2wd, so I am not worried about t-case compatibility. I know those trannies are failry compact and strong enough for light duy work. Does anyone have any other tranny suggestions?

In case that doesn't fit, the HO intake manifold and TB are a direct swap, right?

Also, I am searching the net non-stop right now for tech tips and stuff on how to do this swap, etc... If you have any links that you think may help, lets see them! I know there are some already listed in this thread, but there may be more. I suck at finding things with Google anymore.

colsoncj · 09-25-2007, 08:24 AM

I believe I put some links here:
http://www.yotatech.com/f147/links-faqs-info-96893/

supra89t · 09-26-2007, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colsoncj

I believe I put some links here:
http://www.yotatech.com/f147/links-faqs-info-96893/

Yes I saw those. Thanks for putting that list together. I read through the ones that seemed pertinent and didn't see anything. I guess when I get the motor in front of me, I will measure and add that to the thread.

93rustedyota · 03-18-2008, 06:10 PM

drop a 460 in that beast ive seen one with a 455 chevy in it and it was nasty i had a 79 f150 with a 460 and it was awsome lots of power

flatland4runner · 03-25-2008, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colsoncj

im goina do this... i just need to finish up school (done in march) get a job (hopefully march) and start buyin the parts... hello 351...

I am interested in what the f250/350 4wds had for axles... thinkin bout usin them for the runner.... fords a left or right drop.

nother thing that crossed my mind... think i could take a full size front axle, narrow it only on the long side, enough to center the diff and be the width of a runner for rear steer while im at it?

hello the never ending hole in the mud into which i pour money

My '78 F150 Ranger that I use to haul big stuff has a front D44 can't recall the gearing but its damn bullet proof. Its been swamped,smashed,fallen through ice and etc. And it came factory with a 400.

JJs84 · 04-08-2008, 10:12 PM

If you want to have a Bad Toy put A SUPRA with Turbo that way you get same if not more horses than a 302 or 351 and better Gas milage

colsoncj · 04-09-2008, 10:18 AM

Supra motor is harder to fit, parts are more expensive, and you get turbo lag, plus the added heat of the turbo under the hood. (not good for a trail rig). gas mileage isnt a factor either, the truck is strictly a trail rig, however they both do get about the same mileage. Plus I like the sound of a V8.

Belize Off Road Team · 04-09-2008, 10:27 AM

i personally think the 4.7L V8 from the Tundra would be the best. or find out about the new GODZILLA(09' Skyline GT-R V-Spec) motor and see if that would fit a Yota!

colsoncj · 08-19-2008, 08:39 PM

well, time to bring this up again.. im about 3 days from having a running driving lincoln with a 5.0 HO sitting in my driveway ready for the swap...

So has anyone put together a walkthrough on this yet, or is it just a wing it kind of deal?

I do have some requirements I've decided for my swap, like all factory instruments work... except maybe coolant temp. This would include the tach, which may be fun....

IF there arent any good walkthroughs, does anyone know of a good source for the lincoln wiring manual to help convert this thing?

JamesD · 08-20-2008, 07:43 AM

Just to refresh my memory and the thread, what transmission are you using and what T-case? The easiest would be is to get the bellhousing adapter from Northwest Offroad (do not care for that company) and bolt it to your Toyota trans. I was going to go your route but being the fact their is not much out there for Ford's, I went with a Chevy 4.3. Easier, cheaper and parts are plentiful.

James

colsoncj · 08-21-2008, 04:46 AM

ya... I've thought of that... then i did some more thinking and changed my mind again...

instead of swapping a 302 into a 87 4runner, i've decided to sell it and get a 96-98 4runner, bob and SAS it, then drive it til the motor goes. Once it does, then swap in the 302... so now its back to waiting again....

06-29-2007, 07:01 PM	#128 (permalink)
yoterr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Inverness,FL Posts: 1,044	you can use chevrolet axels i think fords have the wrong side drop, also anything is possible...its just the question of of you have the tools, time, knowlege and money my buddy is puttin 2 1/2 ton rockwells and a 350 v-8 in a chevrolet s-10 __________________ new to me 86' toy on 35" procomp mud terrains, with a 4" lift and 3" body and palm fron camo for now... 04' Dodge 2500 4x4 QC hemi leveled, home made CAI and flowmaster exhaust

09-25-2007, 08:24 AM	#130 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	I believe I put some links here: http://www.yotatech.com/f147/links-faqs-info-96893/ __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

03-18-2008, 06:10 PM	#132 (permalink)
93rustedyota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 133	drop a 460 in that beast ive seen one with a 455 chevy in it and it was nasty i had a 79 f150 with a 460 and it was awsome lots of power __________________ 1994 toyota pickup got it for free took it apart had no bed and got $700 for it so bye bye yota hello honda

04-08-2008, 10:12 PM	#134 (permalink)
JJs84 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Freeport ILL moving back to Knoxville TH Posts: 5	Keep it Real If you want to have a Bad Toy put A SUPRA with Turbo that way you get same if not more horses than a 302 or 351 and better Gas milage

04-09-2008, 10:18 AM	#135 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	Supra motor is harder to fit, parts are more expensive, and you get turbo lag, plus the added heat of the turbo under the hood. (not good for a trail rig). gas mileage isnt a factor either, the truck is strictly a trail rig, however they both do get about the same mileage. Plus I like the sound of a V8. __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

03-20-2007, 09:42 AM	#127 (permalink)
mitchell438 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7	I am putting in a 91 302 in my 87 right now. It isnt that hard. You can order your parts from Northwestoffroad.com You will definetly need the engine mounts and the transfer case shims

04-09-2008, 10:27 AM	#136 (permalink)
Belize Off Road Team Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corozal Town, Belize Posts: 2,752	i personally think the 4.7L V8 from the Tundra would be the best. or find out about the new GODZILLA(09' Skyline GT-R V-Spec) motor and see if that would fit a Yota! __________________ -Phyl 1991 Hilux Surf SSR-G Petrol 3.0L V6 200,000kms l Rancho RS5000 l 31"x10.50"xR15 Pro Comp Xterrain l K&N Air Filter l PP 1" Lift Coil Springs l Optima Blue Top l 12" JBL Subs l Alpine Type R l 80/100W Hella H4 l 1st Gen Roll Bar Mod l FT/RR Diff. Breathers l Smittybilt XRC8 Winch l ARB Bull Bar l トヨタ\|NEVER QUIT

08-19-2008, 08:39 PM	#137 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	well, time to bring this up again.. im about 3 days from having a running driving lincoln with a 5.0 HO sitting in my driveway ready for the swap... So has anyone put together a walkthrough on this yet, or is it just a wing it kind of deal? I do have some requirements I've decided for my swap, like all factory instruments work... except maybe coolant temp. This would include the tach, which may be fun.... IF there arent any good walkthroughs, does anyone know of a good source for the lincoln wiring manual to help convert this thing? __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

08-20-2008, 07:43 AM	#138 (permalink)
JamesD Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,829	Just to refresh my memory and the thread, what transmission are you using and what T-case? The easiest would be is to get the bellhousing adapter from Northwest Offroad (do not care for that company) and bolt it to your Toyota trans. I was going to go your route but being the fact their is not much out there for Ford's, I went with a Chevy 4.3. Easier, cheaper and parts are plentiful. James __________________ New Tacome V6 transfer case http://www.yotatech.com/f107/sale-br.../#post50755569 Various Toyota truck/4Runner switches for sale http://www.yotatech.com/f109/various...trucks-148139/

08-21-2008, 04:46 AM	#139 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	ya... I've thought of that... then i did some more thinking and changed my mind again... instead of swapping a 302 into a 87 4runner, i've decided to sell it and get a 96-98 4runner, bob and SAS it, then drive it til the motor goes. Once it does, then swap in the 302... so now its back to waiting again.... __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

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