Another 3rd Gen Front Bumper Build - wjwerdna - Page 2

fillsrunner4 · 02-19-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wjwerdna

The teacher doesn't matter... ever, it is how you apply yourself

When the teacher is bad (not guiding, not there, unwilling to listen, ect) aspecialy as a younger kid makes trying and wanting to succeed difficult for not just me but many others. the ability to apply yourself matters much and to do what some of us do is amazing, so I do take pride in it very much so and your right in a way. Saying a teacher doesnt matter is false granted its your opinion I think the teacher matters alot.

Anyway the bumper looks good

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Atomic · 02-19-2008, 08:41 PM

Can't wait to see it done!!!

wjwerdna · 02-19-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fillsrunner4

When the teacher is bad (not guiding, not there, unwilling to listen, ect) aspecialy as a younger kid makes trying and wanting to succeed difficult for not just me but many others. the ability to apply yourself matters much and to do what some of us do is amazing, so I do take pride in it very much so and your right in a way. Saying a teacher doesnt matter is false granted its your opinion I think the teacher matters alot.

Anyway the bumper looks good

ok, let me redirect a little... if the teacher is an absolute pile of crap, then yes, that is bad. If the teacher is just "not a good teacher," or the student does not like the teacher it isn't an excuse to fail or do poorly in the class. I am sick of hearing people say they did bad because of the teacher. I guess I will let it settle as a difference of opinions, because I don't feel like arguing my point =)

wjwerdna · 02-20-2008, 04:03 AM

anyway, new pictures are somewhere on the previous page, today or tomorrow should be blasting/painting... I can't wait to get this finished

Whitey13 · 02-21-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wjwerdna

it's a 5" grinder, so one that came with it was 5" but 4.5" is cheaper, so ive been buying those

Let me know before you buy any more...I'll send you some samples.

wjwerdna · 02-21-2008, 08:24 PM

pm sent

drew303 · 02-21-2008, 08:33 PM

KICK BUTT thats awesome

I used to draft everything up like that when I was studying architecture (which involves most of the same software) Been away from that for a few years ah i miss it everytime i want to make something new!

AWESOME WORK my friend.

wjwerdna · 02-21-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by drew303

KICK BUTT thats awesome

I used to draft everything up like that when I was studying architecture (which involves most of the same software) Been away from that for a few years ah i miss it everytime i want to make something new!

AWESOME WORK my friend.

Thank you very much sir!

It is incredible being able to make something in 3D like this, then generate cut dimensions and a complete BOM automatically. Spending the (several) hours on the computer has saved so much time and effort in building I can't believe myself how well it went...

Having a thorough background and understanding in how something is to be built/processed/machined is key to making it work on paper and real life though. I can't count the times someone has said "but it worked on paper" and when it is finally made, huge problems... "it worked on paper" is almost a joke to me at work, and the tool-room guys respect me for understanding how things can be made...

wjwerdna · 02-21-2008, 09:07 PM

PAINTED!!!
not sure what the "rusty" looking streaks are... weird lighting, photo only I promise

Yota Runner · 02-21-2008, 09:19 PM

awsome job dude, post up some more pics when that bad boy is on!

agusgus3 · 02-21-2008, 10:18 PM

very smooth and well designed. Thanks for the the ideas. keep it coming on the pics!!

Maybe i should get my rear bumper done already....

cvlighthouse · 02-21-2008, 10:56 PM

Nice job on the bumper and blueprints.

Did you think of putting a square hitch sleeve in the front for use of a portable winch? That and maybe the 2.5" tractor lights in the upper driving light holes for turn signals and you could sell these babies like hot cakes! (I understand you have no interest in selling, just saying..)

wjwerdna · 02-22-2008, 04:28 AM

Thanks for all the comments so far guys

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Originally Posted by cvlighthouse

Nice job on the bumper and blueprints.

Did you think of putting a square hitch sleeve in the front for use of a portable winch? That and maybe the 2.5" tractor lights in the upper driving light holes for turn signals and you could sell these babies like hot cakes! (I understand you have no interest in selling, just saying..)

Yep, thought of the hitch sleeve, I don't have a winch on my long-term shopping list, my own welder is first, and that is after student loans and a place to live, so it's far enough out there that I am not considering a winch yet. But if that time comes, yes, it would get welded in (later) 2inches from the bottom of the bumper, through the middle of the sheet, there is room there and it is reinforced already.

My Turn signals are already in the "parking lights;" I am happy with them there

though I am not sure if I like how small the little fogs are compared to the hole (stock pipe size, since that diameter could not be rolled)

I added this edit a few posts ago, I'll copy it again in case anyone didn't see it who hasn't read back a bit:

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Originally Posted by myself a few posts back

EDIT: My friend and I are contemplating the idea of marketing these bumpers "for off-road use" of course (due to implications of safety tests for roads). We are thinking about the possibility of fully customizable bumpers, with a "you name it, we make it style." We would try to keep the cost down, but truly it wouldn't be the cheapest out there, but could still be affordable, we don't have the time or resources to stock steel and materials in large quantities to get discounts.

Our problem is that we only have 6 months out of the year to work on these (Jan-March & July-Sept), he's leaving for spring break in a week, so this term is pretty much done as far as making another...

Keep the comments coming guys, I appreciate them

If there is anything (simpler) you need designed or fabbed, that can be fit in much faster and easier

cvlighthouse · 02-22-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wjwerdna

If there is anything (simpler) you need designed or fabbed, that can be fit in much faster and easier

I got something simple for ya!

pitpatt · 02-22-2008, 10:48 AM

bumper looks sweet man!

Elvota · 02-22-2008, 10:56 AM

Very nice looking piece. Looks like a very stout mount as well.

It's obvious you are very skilled with design and the related software, and your fab work seems very refined as well. Have you been fabricating for a while now?

Did you cut all that steel with just a grinder? If not, what tools did you use?

wjwerdna · 02-22-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvota

Very nice looking piece. Looks like a very stout mount as well.

It's obvious you are very skilled with design and the related software, and your fab work seems very refined as well. Have you been fabricating for a while now?

Did you cut all that steel with just a grinder? If not, what tools did you use?

Thanks =)

well, I'm 22, I've been making stuff since I was little, but as far as metal/welding/grinding/etc, not really that long. I pick up stuff fast, and have done enough stuff at work over last couple years to weld pretty decent (even though most of welds on this were done by friend of mine).

I've made my lift kit, sliders, rear hitch-mounted tire carrier, and now the bumper. The bumper is the first one done in 3D, but the tire carrier, lift, and sliders were all rough sketched in AutoCAD.

As far as the actual cutting, a couple pieces were cut on a large horizontal band/cut saw at point of purchase, most of everything was rough cut with a 14" dewalt abrasive cut-off (which needs to be shimmed because it doesn't cut straight) and ground (a lot) to fit, the large holes for lights were cut with an angle grinder/cut-off disk, the small holes were cut with a 3.5" hole saw and ground larger with angle grinder. For the brackets in back, I actually did those somewhere else on a small vertical bandsaw, then milled, welded, and milled again. My own bandsaw would have made this whole process much easier, or a plasma cutter, but that would involve much more grinding

wjwerdna · 02-25-2008, 02:21 PM

Done, wired, painted, good to go.. about 125lbs

click for larger:

bruzer1123 · 02-25-2008, 05:42 PM

That looks great!!!

GenXr · 02-25-2008, 06:04 PM

I noticed how think all the steel is on the bumper. If the front of your rig was in a collision, would the frame of your truck suffer more damage than the bumper? It looked like the frame thickness was much less than the bumper material.

I'm not an engineer so I don't how to estimate or guage things like that.

4RunnerKid · 02-25-2008, 06:17 PM

looks pretty damn good. out of the box and well executed. i love how you had it all CAD'd up beforehand and built from that. the best way to do it, for sure. i'm lucky if my ideas even make it to a napkin nowadays... nice work man.

wjwerdna · 02-25-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GenXr

....

I noticed how think all the steel is on the bumper. If the front of your rig was in a collision, would the frame of your truck suffer more damage than the bumper? Most likely, it would be impossible to reinforce the frame more, and it would be less safe. The frame is reinforced quite a bit (stock) and the bumper is mounted in different points, but a certain impact would of course damage the frame... However, I think in that same case, the stock bumper would allow the same, if not more damage to the frame. Benefit of stock bumper is that it would absorb more energy, thus transferring less to the driver...

It looked like the frame thickness was much less than the bumper material. You are right again, the frame appears to be around .125 or so. The bumper is attached to the front, and along the bottom. It will withstand very heavy pulling loads (recovery, etc). It will also withstand low velocity impacts well to a certain degree.

There is no good way to argue that a heavy steel bumper is better than years and years of engineering. But a steel bumper is what I (and other off-road enthusiasts want) =)

agusgus3 · 02-25-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wjwerdna

There is no good way to argue that a heavy steel bumper is better than years and years of engineering. But a steel bumper is what I (and other off-road enthusiasts want) =)

touchet my friend.

Just hope your air bag doesn't go off when some one backs into you or something. That would suck with no crush zone!

Sick bumper btw...

Marley2984 · 02-26-2008, 04:24 AM

Looks great.... I love the lights. Good job

wjwerdna · 02-26-2008, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by agusgus3

touchet my friend.

Just hope your air bag doesn't go off when some one backs into you or something. That would suck with no crush zone!

Sick bumper btw...

thanks man, lol it would take more than that to set it off... The crush zone doesn't really affect the airbag (well, of course it does a little), I'm pretty sure that if I am in a crash where the airbag goes off, then it will be fully appreciated (the air bag).

02-19-2008, 08:41 PM	#27 (permalink)
Atomic Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crystal Lake IL (Home) or Oxford OH (MU Ohio) Posts: 317	Can't wait to see it done!!! __________________ Tess- 1998 4Runner 4WD SR5: 154k, Evergreen Pearl Metallic, ARB Tacoma Bull Bar, Hella 500's, Deckplate, ISR, WabFab discos, 5.25'' Infinity Reference rears, Baja amp powering a 10'' Infinity Reference sub, Sylvania Silverstars, JB L.E.D. Taillights 1996 4Runner 2WD SR5: stock, dented, almost dead, 207k- Brother's

02-20-2008, 04:03 AM	#29 (permalink)
wjwerdna Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Novi, MI Posts: 1,866	anyway, new pictures are somewhere on the previous page, today or tomorrow should be blasting/painting... I can't wait to get this finished __________________ Andrew J W = WJwerdnA '99 4Runner SR5 - Pioneer MP3/IPod w/Infinity all around - lifted 2.5-3in susp. - 33's to fill the gap - sliders - ISR & Deckplate, yada yada - Satoshi - AIM:wjwerdna YotaTech Profile Custom Bumper Link for sale: ??? Nothing?

02-21-2008, 08:24 PM	#31 (permalink)
wjwerdna Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Novi, MI Posts: 1,866	pm sent __________________ Andrew J W = WJwerdnA '99 4Runner SR5 - Pioneer MP3/IPod w/Infinity all around - lifted 2.5-3in susp. - 33's to fill the gap - sliders - ISR & Deckplate, yada yada - Satoshi - AIM:wjwerdna YotaTech Profile Custom Bumper Link for sale: ??? Nothing?

02-21-2008, 08:33 PM	#32 (permalink)
drew303 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,033	KICK BUTT thats awesome I used to draft everything up like that when I was studying architecture (which involves most of the same software) Been away from that for a few years ah i miss it everytime i want to make something new! AWESOME WORK my friend. __________________ 1987 Pickup, single cab, 22R, new head, 260 cam TG 3" SAS, rear disc brakes, chromoly rear axles, Chromoly Birfs, Tcase brake, 37x12.50R15 MT/Rs, 5.29 gears, rear Aussie Locker, front Detroit Truetrac.

02-21-2008, 09:07 PM	#34 (permalink)
wjwerdna Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Novi, MI Posts: 1,866	PAINTED!!! not sure what the "rusty" looking streaks are... weird lighting, photo only I promise __________________ Andrew J W = WJwerdnA '99 4Runner SR5 - Pioneer MP3/IPod w/Infinity all around - lifted 2.5-3in susp. - 33's to fill the gap - sliders - ISR & Deckplate, yada yada - Satoshi - AIM:wjwerdna YotaTech Profile Custom Bumper Link for sale: ??? Nothing?

02-21-2008, 09:19 PM	#35 (permalink)
Yota Runner Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA Posts: 288	awsome job dude, post up some more pics when that bad boy is on! __________________ 98 4 Runner SR5 3.4 V6 - Anthracite Metalic - 5 spd - 265/75/R16 BFG AT's on Akuza 359 wheels - Trail Gear 60" Rock Sliders - Rola Roof Rack - Custom Front Recovery Points - Hella 500 fogs - Flowmaster 50 series - Clear lenses - 5% tint - GT covers Exact fit seat covers - DVD - Silverstar ultra's...

02-21-2008, 10:18 PM	#36 (permalink)
agusgus3 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 134	very smooth and well designed. Thanks for the the ideas. keep it coming on the pics!! Maybe i should get my rear bumper done already....

02-21-2008, 10:56 PM	#37 (permalink)
cvlighthouse Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carmel Valley, Ca. Posts: 446	Nice job on the bumper and blueprints. Did you think of putting a square hitch sleeve in the front for use of a portable winch? That and maybe the 2.5" tractor lights in the upper driving light holes for turn signals and you could sell these babies like hot cakes! (I understand you have no interest in selling, just saying..) __________________ 01 Taco TRD w/ cab over camper here: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=116933 Replica Ivan Stevart TRD grille here: http://www.yotatech.com/f2/01-tacoma...-alike-136935/

02-22-2008, 10:56 AM	#41 (permalink)
Elvota Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,436	Very nice looking piece. Looks like a very stout mount as well. It's obvious you are very skilled with design and the related software, and your fab work seems very refined as well. Have you been fabricating for a while now? Did you cut all that steel with just a grinder? If not, what tools did you use? __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY visit the sticki chronicles

02-25-2008, 02:21 PM	#43 (permalink)
wjwerdna Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Novi, MI Posts: 1,866	Done, wired, painted, good to go.. about 125lbs click for larger: __________________ Andrew J W = WJwerdnA '99 4Runner SR5 - Pioneer MP3/IPod w/Infinity all around - lifted 2.5-3in susp. - 33's to fill the gap - sliders - ISR & Deckplate, yada yada - Satoshi - AIM:wjwerdna YotaTech Profile Custom Bumper Link for sale: ??? Nothing?

02-25-2008, 05:42 PM	#44 (permalink)
bruzer1123 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Idaho Posts: 337	That looks great!!! __________________ 1993 Pickup 22RE 4x4 5 spd. Mods: Engnbldr Street RV Head with 261 C, Trueflow air filter, custom rear bumper, roof rack, 2.25 exhaust from cat back, Thrush muffler, Rancho 5000 shocks, tiny MTRs Future Mods: Diff breathers. Rear locker? Winch? OBA? Flatbed?

02-25-2008, 06:04 PM	#45 (permalink)
GenXr Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 558	I noticed how think all the steel is on the bumper. If the front of your rig was in a collision, would the frame of your truck suffer more damage than the bumper? It looked like the frame thickness was much less than the bumper material. I'm not an engineer so I don't how to estimate or guage things like that. __________________ Old Blue - 1995 Xtra Cab 4x4

02-25-2008, 06:17 PM	#46 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 1,033	looks pretty damn good. out of the box and well executed. i love how you had it all CAD'd up beforehand and built from that. the best way to do it, for sure. i'm lucky if my ideas even make it to a napkin nowadays... nice work man. __________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG HD/RUF front \| All Pro rear \| 37" Krawlers \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" King 2.5s \| 2" air bumps \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| 4xInnovations cage \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| LED rock lights \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club Poly Performance

02-26-2008, 04:24 AM	#49 (permalink)
Marley2984 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 147	Looks great.... I love the lights. Good job __________________ 97 4runner: 145k, dessert dune, mostly stock 90 Corolla: 165k , white, 6th gen AE95 76 Bronco: gunmetal grey, 351w, 35" MTs (sold)

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