93 4runner SAS and rear leaf swap build up - Page 4

Ganoid · 01-23-2007, 05:16 AM

I had a terrible angle as well using a modified 85 CV shaft with the TG 12" spline section (spin balanced). I took my truck into the local alignment shop and had them check the caster to see if I could rotate the axle forward raising the diff flange. The shop said I should be in the 1.5* range for caster and I was sitting at 5.5* with the TG 4" IFS elim kit. I added a 4* shim to roll the axle forward and reduce the caster this also improved my Drive shaft angle dramatically. I have no wobbles or any other goofy side affects due to caster and I have had my x-cab up to 95 miles per hour on the 35's in 2wd with the 1.5* caster setting. You can start to feel the front D-shaft once you get over 45-50 miles per hour in 4wd but that only happens on mountain passes in the snow. I have no idea what the 5" springs do to the caster angle but I'm sure it can be improved.

4RunnerKid · 01-23-2007, 07:59 PM

yeah, i've been thinking about looking into shims... i'll have to have my caster checked one of these days.

4RunnerKid · 01-27-2007, 12:25 AM

well, all that's left is to weld the shackle hangers to the frame, mount shocks somehow, and lengthen the d-shaft... pics tomorrow.

4RunnerKid · 01-28-2007, 03:57 AM

Blizzard · 01-28-2007, 11:10 AM

Wow Mike! Your bumper is way more nice now with the hoops.

Wanting to see the finished truck, I'll be swapping the rear too.

David

4RunnerKid · 01-28-2007, 12:38 PM

thanks david. the bumper definitely needed the tube to make it look right.

well those last pics were from 1:30 this morning... (really long day yesterday.) i'll try and pull it out of the garage today and take a few more. it's sitting pretty level right now, even without the rear bumper on. it'a maybe an inch taller in the rear. axle ended up 1.5-2" back.

4RunnerKid · 01-28-2007, 02:09 PM

just pulled it out of the garage. still need to finish it up, but at least it rolls. still need to get the d-shaft lengthened, run hard lines and bleed brakes, shock mounts, and mount rear bumper. i'll be taking it out this upcoming weekend, so we'll see how it does... pics:

-TheBandit- · 01-28-2007, 02:14 PM

Nice work! Looks level too. What's the next big thing?

4RunnerKid · 01-28-2007, 02:26 PM

Trail-Gear HD fronts need to go in. my front shackle angle looks to be getting worse... hopefully i'll be ordering Bellfields soon. then it's time to save up for duals, and hopefully do some good wheeling at the same time.

slosurfer · 01-28-2007, 02:44 PM

Mike, it's looking way better! No more driving down the road looking at the sky. Hopefully I will get to see it in action soon.

4RunnerKid · 01-28-2007, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slosurfer

Mike, it's looking way better! No more driving down the road looking at the sky. Hopefully I will get to see it in action soon.

thanks chris. hey, we're wheeling this weekend coming up if you'd like to join. shoot me a pm if you're interested.

Mikronized · 01-28-2007, 08:59 PM

dude, mike!

your truck is a beast now!!!! I love it.

jsnby · 01-29-2007, 04:14 PM

nice job mike. one of these days, we're going to have to hook up for some wheeling.

4RunnerKid · 02-06-2007, 12:57 PM

yeah dude, definitely.

well, wheeled it this past saturday. even let my sister wheel it.

rig did pretty well. still need to mount the shocks and bumper. and i'm getting some good vibes on the freeway, so i'll have to check out the pinion angle and do something about that... some pics:

i'll add more once i get them. a friend took a bunch more...

drew303 · 02-06-2007, 01:23 PM

nice flex

lookn good!

deathrunner · 02-07-2007, 11:59 PM

Very cool. That's what an SAS should look like.

4RunnerKid · 02-25-2007, 11:03 PM

2/25/07 UPDATE

trail-gear HD springs are in. i'll report back on their performance once i've driven it around some... initially, good but tall. hopefully these break in a bit, unlike my last set.

01-23-2007, 05:16 AM	#76 (permalink)
Ganoid Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Salem,Oregon Posts: 509	I had a terrible angle as well using a modified 85 CV shaft with the TG 12" spline section (spin balanced). I took my truck into the local alignment shop and had them check the caster to see if I could rotate the axle forward raising the diff flange. The shop said I should be in the 1.5* range for caster and I was sitting at 5.5* with the TG 4" IFS elim kit. I added a 4* shim to roll the axle forward and reduce the caster this also improved my Drive shaft angle dramatically. I have no wobbles or any other goofy side affects due to caster and I have had my x-cab up to 95 miles per hour on the 35's in 2wd with the 1.5* caster setting. You can start to feel the front D-shaft once you get over 45-50 miles per hour in 4wd but that only happens on mountain passes in the snow. I have no idea what the 5" springs do to the caster angle but I'm sure it can be improved. __________________ 1990 Xcab beast of burden 3.0 Rebuild/Precision balanced w/OS valves Custom ported/welded Intake manifolds Downey headers, Jacobs Ign 4" Trail Gear SAS + rear Kit R151 + Dual cases (2.28+4.7) 5.29's,Tru Trac/Lockright on 35 BFG's 140A GM CS144 alt/Hyd assist steering DOA Racing = $1200 lesson in who NOT to deal with

01-23-2007, 07:59 PM	#77 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 1,003	yeah, i've been thinking about looking into shims... i'll have to have my caster checked one of these days. __________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG 5" HD/RUF front \| All Pro ~4" rear \| 37" Krawlers \| bomb-proof front housing \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| KCs \| LED rock lights \| Midland CB \| Firestik 4' antenna \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club -> check it yo

01-27-2007, 12:25 AM	#78 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 1,003	well, all that's left is to weld the shackle hangers to the frame, mount shocks somehow, and lengthen the d-shaft... pics tomorrow. __________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG 5" HD/RUF front \| All Pro ~4" rear \| 37" Krawlers \| bomb-proof front housing \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| KCs \| LED rock lights \| Midland CB \| Firestik 4' antenna \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club -> check it yo

01-28-2007, 03:57 AM	#79 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 1,003	__________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG 5" HD/RUF front \| All Pro ~4" rear \| 37" Krawlers \| bomb-proof front housing \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| KCs \| LED rock lights \| Midland CB \| Firestik 4' antenna \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club -> check it yo

01-28-2007, 11:10 AM	#80 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 873	Wow Mike! Your bumper is way more nice now with the hoops. Wanting to see the finished truck, I'll be swapping the rear too. David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35x12.5x15 M/T's and too many things more to write...

01-28-2007, 12:38 PM	#81 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 1,003	thanks david. the bumper definitely needed the tube to make it look right. well those last pics were from 1:30 this morning... (really long day yesterday.) i'll try and pull it out of the garage today and take a few more. it's sitting pretty level right now, even without the rear bumper on. it'a maybe an inch taller in the rear. axle ended up 1.5-2" back. __________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG 5" HD/RUF front \| All Pro ~4" rear \| 37" Krawlers \| bomb-proof front housing \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| KCs \| LED rock lights \| Midland CB \| Firestik 4' antenna \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club -> check it yo

01-28-2007, 02:09 PM	#82 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 1,003	just pulled it out of the garage. still need to finish it up, but at least it rolls. still need to get the d-shaft lengthened, run hard lines and bleed brakes, shock mounts, and mount rear bumper. i'll be taking it out this upcoming weekend, so we'll see how it does... pics: __________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG 5" HD/RUF front \| All Pro ~4" rear \| 37" Krawlers \| bomb-proof front housing \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| KCs \| LED rock lights \| Midland CB \| Firestik 4' antenna \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club -> check it yo

01-28-2007, 02:14 PM	#83 (permalink)
-TheBandit- Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 77	Nice work! Looks level too. What's the next big thing? __________________ In theory, practice and theory agree. In practice, they don't.

01-28-2007, 02:26 PM	#84 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 1,003	Trail-Gear HD fronts need to go in. my front shackle angle looks to be getting worse... hopefully i'll be ordering Bellfields soon. then it's time to save up for duals, and hopefully do some good wheeling at the same time. __________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG 5" HD/RUF front \| All Pro ~4" rear \| 37" Krawlers \| bomb-proof front housing \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| KCs \| LED rock lights \| Midland CB \| Firestik 4' antenna \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club -> check it yo

01-28-2007, 02:44 PM	#85 (permalink)
slosurfer Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Osos, CA (we can't agree on crap!) Posts: 1,922	Mike, it's looking way better! No more driving down the road looking at the sky. Hopefully I will get to see it in action soon. __________________ Chris 6th Annual Pismo 4runner Jamboree: Oct. 10-12, 2008 '93 4runner SR5 3.0 Auto 4WD '07 Tacoma Dcab 4x4 TRD offroad '89 F250 4x4 w/utility bed M416 1/4 ton military trailer "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan Semper Fi SLO 4wheelers

01-28-2007, 08:59 PM	#87 (permalink)
Mikronized Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Valencia, CA Posts: 594	dude, mike! your truck is a beast now!!!! I love it. __________________ '94 4runner : soon-ish to be V8'd, SAS'd, lock'd and bumper'd

01-29-2007, 04:14 PM	#88 (permalink)
jsnby Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 492	nice job mike. one of these days, we're going to have to hook up for some wheeling. __________________ http://www.trek-planner.com 1992 Toyota 4Runner\|3.slow\|5spd, SR5\|Flowmaster 40\|SAS 5" f/r\|Detroit rear\|ARB front\|5.29's\|roof rack\|FLX 165\|35x12.5r15 BFG MT\|CB\|ISR\|Alarm\|BentUp Sliders\|C02\|30 spline longs

02-06-2007, 12:57 PM	#89 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 1,003	yeah dude, definitely. well, wheeled it this past saturday. even let my sister wheel it. rig did pretty well. still need to mount the shocks and bumper. and i'm getting some good vibes on the freeway, so i'll have to check out the pinion angle and do something about that... some pics: i'll add more once i get them. a friend took a bunch more... __________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG 5" HD/RUF front \| All Pro ~4" rear \| 37" Krawlers \| bomb-proof front housing \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| KCs \| LED rock lights \| Midland CB \| Firestik 4' antenna \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club -> check it yo

02-06-2007, 01:23 PM	#90 (permalink)
drew303 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 1,498	nice flex lookn good! __________________ 1987 Toyota P/U 4x4 pics/info

02-07-2007, 11:59 PM	#91 (permalink)
deathrunner Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 2,931	Very cool. That's what an SAS should look like. __________________ IFS IS FOR LOSERS Decroded Piece of Crap

02-26-2007, 09:43 AM	#93 (permalink)
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02-25-2007, 11:03 PM	#92 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 1,003	2/25/07 UPDATE trail-gear HD springs are in. i'll report back on their performance once i've driven it around some... initially, good but tall. hopefully these break in a bit, unlike my last set. __________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG 5" HD/RUF front \| All Pro ~4" rear \| 37" Krawlers \| bomb-proof front housing \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| KCs \| LED rock lights \| Midland CB \| Firestik 4' antenna \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club -> check it yo