THE 1 MILLIONTH SAS (on my 92 runner) - Page 3

4rnr · 01-11-2006, 08:19 PM

Ok ive got a decient amount done the worst part of this is definatly the grinding.

Heres 924runnersr5 lending a hand

The rear axle all ready to place

Heres where im at with removing the coil brackets I havent made up my mind on whether im going to remove any more, I might just clean up whats there, I dont think it will be in the way. But ill probably remove the drivers coil pad as well I just hate plasmaing that close to the gas tank

Ive still got a long way to go, this is how my front end sits until I finally get my 3rd back!

I got my front and rear kits, and other little things today, so this should continue to pick up pace.

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4rnr · 01-11-2006, 10:14 PM

hey what did you guys do about drive shafts, I havent made up my mind on what to use. I have 4 drive shafts in my garage.

1 front with a cv
1 front with u-joints
1 rear with a cv
1 rear with u-joints

I dont want to use straps, I dont want to make a square shaft, dont care if the front has a vibration bc I wont be using 4wd on the road. I am leaning toward a u-joint rear, and im not sure for the front.

I know ill have to do longer splines. Keep in mind I have the auto and one t-case so my front shaft is pretty short

4RunnerKid · 01-12-2006, 11:10 AM

i've heard the way to go is a rear with a CV. i'll have to double-check on that though...

4rnr · 01-12-2006, 03:17 PM

I did alot of research today and I think that im going to use a cv rear shaft with stock splines and extend the shaft. For the front it looks like a u-joint with a 8" spline kit, and extended.

4rnr · 01-12-2006, 03:21 PM

Ok kids this why you dont make a flexy rear end in these and keep he panhard stock...

notice where the d-shaft had dented and rubbed the crap out of the tank, also the 3rd smashed the crap out of the tank and skid plate

4rnr · 01-12-2006, 10:43 PM

If any of you swaped coils to leafs in the rear what method did you use to locate the rear axle? Im still not sure how to get the leaf in the right spot so the suspension can properly cycle. Ill probably end up taking apart the leaf and tacking the leaf up and then cyling it to make sure. Then I have to pray the leafs are in the exact same spot on the frame so im not dogalking down the road.

4rnr · 01-13-2006, 11:34 AM

Man all I can hear on this thread is crickets

FilthyRich · 01-13-2006, 11:37 AM

I just came inside from unloading my 3rd load of 1.5 tons of gravel.
I am beat....

You ride is coming along FAST. Not sure about the coil buckets, but I like what I see

**waskillywabbit** · 01-13-2006, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4rnr

I did alot of research today and I think that im going to use a cv rear shaft with stock splines and extend the shaft. For the front it looks like a u-joint with a 8" spline kit, and extended.

On mine, I used a CV joint on the rear (this will eliminate all the vibrations that the u-joint won't and wouldn't) and an 8" spline on the front w/ the OEM front CV joint.

I had maybe like $100 parts tops going through local sources.

Crickets you say?

4rnr · 01-13-2006, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

On mine, I used a CV joint on the rear (this will eliminate all the vibrations that the u-joint won't and wouldn't) and an 8" spline on the front w/ the OEM front CV joint.

I had maybe like $100 parts tops going through local sources.

Crickets you say?

Do you have a stick and how many t-cases.

Yes crickets

4rnr · 01-13-2006, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FilthyRich

I just came inside from unloading my 3rd load of 1.5 tons of gravel.
I am beat....

You ride is coming along FAST. Not sure about the coil buckets, but I like what I see

Coil buckets?? what about them

4rnr · 01-13-2006, 04:44 PM

Ok Ive got one of the front springs mounted and I Think its probably ok but I hope the shackle swings back alot with the wieght of the truck on it. Man its nice cutting those holes with the plasma cutter I dont know what ya'll are whining about

I also had my woman paint my rims black (I hate chrome!!!) I think she did a good job. Ill probably put one more coat on it. Now if I could just paint the white lettering that the PO decided to face out in a 1985 rage

FilthyRich · 01-13-2006, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4rnr

Coil buckets?? what about them

I meant coil brackets. I have been moving gravel all day and I am a zombie.

4rnr · 01-13-2006, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FilthyRich

I meant coil brackets. I have been moving gravel all day and I am a zombie.

I know what you meant, I was wondering what you "didnt know about them" or something thats all.

**waskillywabbit** · 01-14-2006, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4rnr

Do you have a stick and how many t-cases.

Yes crickets

Single case for now.

4rnr · 01-14-2006, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Single case for now.

you must have stick bc everyone I talk to says that the auto and a single case is too short for a cv.

**waskillywabbit** · 01-14-2006, 09:44 AM

Yes, I have a 5spd and after the lift the front was so short it wouldn't even engage the splines...rear would still work but would vibrate like crazy...now all is perfectly smooth onroad and off.

Beast · 01-14-2006, 11:06 AM

good job man

You won't regret a tough solid axle

there is this very washed out road whooped road and muddy a hell
my friend 91 v6 truck was bottoming out at 23mph tops (w/ torsion bars stiffend)
I could take that section at 50 miles per hour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my suspension was bottoming out but it took and I was smiling!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think IFS is good for city driving - softer ride
But if you want to OFF-ROAD solid axle
I

joebruva25 · 01-14-2006, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4rnr

Ok kids this why you dont make a flexy rear end in these and keep he panhard stock...

notice where the d-shaft had dented and rubbed the crap out of the tank, also the 3rd smashed the crap out of the tank and skid plate

Was wondering how many inches of lift will this add & do you even need to keep the panhard bar?, also what leaf springs did you use? Chevys, yota, etc this is also a mod. I want to do and how did you find the placement of the hangers and shackles in order to keep the thrust angle correct (Did you measure from the rear end of the frame) because I heard if you don't do this right it will throw off the front alignment(if you go to get it done cause they set the front off the rear) & you will wear through tires Quickly(that is if you drive on the street alot).
Pls let me know how this goes cause this mod. is going to be my next project.

4rnr · 01-14-2006, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joebruva25

Was wondering how many inches of lift will this add & do you even need to keep the panhard bar?, also what leaf springs did you use? Chevys, yota, etc this is also a mod. I want to do and how did you find the placement of the hangers and shackles in order to keep the thrust angle correct (Did you measure from the rear end of the frame) because I heard if you don't do this right it will throw off the front alignment(if you go to get it done cause they set the front off the rear) & you will wear through tires Quickly(that is if you drive on the street alot).
Pls let me know how this goes cause this mod. is going to be my next project.

Its suposed to be a 4'' kit but im afraid im going to be around 6'' :pat:

with leafs you dont use a panhard , you dont have to use anything (unless your afraid of axle wrap)

Im still working on getting the rearend properly placed. not sure exactlly how ill do it, I cant seem to find people who have done a 4'' marlin rear leaf conversion. but ill keep ya updated.

4rnr · 01-14-2006, 01:04 PM

my dust sheilds are HORRIBLY corroded, and i think im going to eliminate them i know alot of guys have done this. Anyone have an issue with the less 1/8th in. of spacing.

And no i cant just cut the sheilds off the bracket bc the brakets are coming apart.

4rnr · 01-14-2006, 02:20 PM

http://www.allprooffroad.com/images/...lodeview_l.jpg

this drawing seems wrong it shows large metal, cloth, rubber, small metal, as the order of the knuckle seal. but as i assemble these it works perfectly as large metal, cloth, small steel, rubber.

just a heads up for people relying on this diagram or ive missed someting

**waskillywabbit** · 01-14-2006, 02:27 PM

That is straight out of the Toyota FSM I think...better check again.

4rnr · 01-14-2006, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

That is straight out of the Toyota FSM I think...better check again.

Nope I think Ive got it right everything went together perfect, but the way the drawing says nothing fit. Oh well.

4rnr · 01-14-2006, 11:17 PM

Ahhh a point ive been waiting for about 7 or 8yrs. Its on a solid axle.
However, its taller than a skyscraper. I cant belirve its this tall I hope it settles ALOT, or else im buying 38's.

This is on 35's the same ones from the first post...

Sorry some of the pics are blurry I have VERY little light in my garage and the shutter sometimes stays open for almost a second.

01-11-2006, 10:14 PM	#52 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,470	hey what did you guys do about drive shafts, I havent made up my mind on what to use. I have 4 drive shafts in my garage. 1 front with a cv 1 front with u-joints 1 rear with a cv 1 rear with u-joints I dont want to use straps, I dont want to make a square shaft, dont care if the front has a vibration bc I wont be using 4wd on the road. I am leaning toward a u-joint rear, and im not sure for the front. I know ill have to do longer splines. Keep in mind I have the auto and one t-case so my front shaft is pretty short __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-12-2006, 11:10 AM	#53 (permalink)
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01-12-2006, 03:17 PM	#54 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,470	I did alot of research today and I think that im going to use a cv rear shaft with stock splines and extend the shaft. For the front it looks like a u-joint with a 8" spline kit, and extended. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-12-2006, 03:21 PM	#55 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,470	Ok kids this why you dont make a flexy rear end in these and keep he panhard stock... notice where the d-shaft had dented and rubbed the crap out of the tank, also the 3rd smashed the crap out of the tank and skid plate __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-12-2006, 10:43 PM	#56 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,470	If any of you swaped coils to leafs in the rear what method did you use to locate the rear axle? Im still not sure how to get the leaf in the right spot so the suspension can properly cycle. Ill probably end up taking apart the leaf and tacking the leaf up and then cyling it to make sure. Then I have to pray the leafs are in the exact same spot on the frame so im not dogalking down the road. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-13-2006, 11:34 AM	#57 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,470	Man all I can hear on this thread is crickets __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-13-2006, 04:44 PM	#62 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,470	Ok Ive got one of the front springs mounted and I Think its probably ok but I hope the shackle swings back alot with the wieght of the truck on it. Man its nice cutting those holes with the plasma cutter I dont know what ya'll are whining about I also had my woman paint my rims black (I hate chrome!!!) I think she did a good job. Ill probably put one more coat on it. Now if I could just paint the white lettering that the PO decided to face out in a 1985 rage __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-14-2006, 09:44 AM	#67 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,561	Yes, I have a 5spd and after the lift the front was so short it wouldn't even engage the splines...rear would still work but would vibrate like crazy...now all is perfectly smooth onroad and off. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

01-14-2006, 11:06 AM	#68 (permalink)
Beast Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orcas WA Posts: 124	good job man You won't regret a tough solid axle there is this very washed out road whooped road and muddy a hell my friend 91 v6 truck was bottoming out at 23mph tops (w/ torsion bars stiffend) I could take that section at 50 miles per hour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my suspension was bottoming out but it took and I was smiling!!!!!!!!!!!! I think IFS is good for city driving - softer ride But if you want to OFF-ROAD solid axle I __________________ Beast started out as an 81' now W/ 7mgte, w56, 2nd gen rearend, centerforce DF, FX bucket seats, Beast bumpers front and rear, reinforced frame, custom steel grill, custom quad headlights, four 165 watt KC daylighters on double tube roll bar, eight speaker stereo,

01-14-2006, 01:04 PM	#71 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,470	my dust sheilds are HORRIBLY corroded, and i think im going to eliminate them i know alot of guys have done this. Anyone have an issue with the less 1/8th in. of spacing. And no i cant just cut the sheilds off the bracket bc the brakets are coming apart. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-14-2006, 02:20 PM	#72 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,470	http://www.allprooffroad.com/images/...lodeview_l.jpg this drawing seems wrong it shows large metal, cloth, rubber, small metal, as the order of the knuckle seal. but as i assemble these it works perfectly as large metal, cloth, small steel, rubber. just a heads up for people relying on this diagram or ive missed someting __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

01-14-2006, 02:27 PM	#73 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,561	That is straight out of the Toyota FSM I think...better check again. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

01-14-2006, 11:17 PM	#75 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,470	Ahhh a point ive been waiting for about 7 or 8yrs. Its on a solid axle. However, its taller than a skyscraper. I cant belirve its this tall I hope it settles ALOT, or else im buying 38's. This is on 35's the same ones from the first post... Sorry some of the pics are blurry I have VERY little light in my garage and the shutter sometimes stays open for almost a second. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

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