THE 1 MILLIONTH SAS (on my 92 runner)

4rnr · 12-28-2005, 09:09 AM

Well ive wanted to do this since I was 16, and yesterday it was like 50 degrees!! So I decided to start.

Heres some before pics, some guys here wanted pics of my rig on 35's with 1.5 - 2 in. of lift. this is how it sat yesterday on 35x12.5 bfg AT's (I have some tsl's for off road when im not daily driving this thing 100mi a day)

I may be getting a plasma cutter so I didnt want to start cutting anything. So I started in the rear.

BEFORE

AFTER

The plan is a marlin 4'' front and back, and some 36x13.5r15 Irok radials.

BTW, I now have some 1.5in AP coils SOLD laying around and some downey 26mm t-bars. I also have a v6 3rd with a detroit ez locker and factory 4.88's. I will be selling all of these plus everything else you can think of that ill be removing. ALL SOLD

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Ric · 12-28-2005, 09:17 AM

that thing looks good as it sits, keep us posted on the swap.

4rnr · 12-28-2005, 09:32 AM

Ive got a question for all you guys who have done coil to leaf conversions.

What do you do about the proportioning valve that has the long load sensor on it. id like to do away with the entire system and run normal brakes.

The other question is the cross member has the large triangle that hangs down for the panhard bar. If I just cut it off it will weaken the cross member.

Heres a pic to help ya see what im saying..

For some reason i cant get that pic to normal size so when I dont need it anymore ill delete it (I hate wide threads)

**waskillywabbit** · 12-28-2005, 09:49 AM

You have a load sensing proportioning valve...you need to install a "manual proportioning valve" in line w/ the rear brake line...you can get them from Summit Racing cheap.

Look under my rear disc conversion on "Project Wabbit" on my website and you can see some pics of one and where I put mine.

Good start...

Tacoclimber · 12-28-2005, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

You have a load sensing proportioning valve...you need to install a "manual proportioning valve" in line w/ the rear brake line...you can get them from Summit Racing cheap.

Look under my rear disc conversion on "Project Wabbit" on my website and you can see some pics of one and where I put mine.

Good start...

Hey Brian...do you think he was inspired by your "maniacal rant"?

(Just kiddin'...)

rockota · 12-28-2005, 10:02 AM

I really like how it sits w/ the IFS - nice and low. Looks good!

You can keep the LSPV if you'd like and fab up a bracket to make it work w/ the leafs.... or do as Brian suggests and replace it w/ a manual... OR just tie it up like most of us have done... works great.

Tacoclimber · 12-28-2005, 10:10 AM

By the way, 4rnr, I really dig the "combo bumper slider" deal. That's awesome. Good luck with your conversion!

4rnr · 12-28-2005, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockota

I really like how it sits w/ the IFS - nice and low. Looks good!

You can keep the LSPV if you'd like and fab up a bracket to make it work w/ the leafs.... or do as Brian suggests and replace it w/ a manual... OR just tie it up like most of us have done... works great.

I would like to do away with it all togeather if possible. how did you guys "tie it up"

I like the stance of it also I hope it doesnt get too tall but I need atleast 4" for a high steer.

YeloSub7 · 12-28-2005, 10:39 AM

if you don't want it too high, all pro makes a 3'' spring that still works with highsteer. but you don't want to go any lower than that.

btw-I love the way your runner looks in that first pic! It's gonna be really sweet when you get done with it. keep us posted!

Waterboy · 12-28-2005, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoclimber

By the way, 4rnr, I really dig the "combo bumper slider" deal.

+1 looks sweet
Have you ever set the trucks weight on them? Do they contact the body?

shazaam · 12-28-2005, 11:12 AM

"hhmmm it's a nice day out. I think I'll SAS my truck"

lol

rockota · 12-28-2005, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4rnr

I would like to do away with it all togeather if possible. how did you guys "tie it up"

Check out Roger's site - he used a turnbuckle to tie it up. Mine is just cut off about 3" from the LSPV w/ nothing holding it in place.

Quote:

I like the stance of it also I hope it doesnt get too tall but I need atleast 4" for a high steer.

Front Range OffRoad Fabrications crossmember (1" less drop than the others) combined w/ 3" Marlin Springs and you should be set...

4rnr · 12-28-2005, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waterboy

+1 looks sweet
Have you ever set the trucks weight on them? Do they contact the body?

Ive smashed them pretty hard, Sometimes I fishtail really hard into trees and no problems. Basically the truck will move way before the tubing gets to the body. Oh BTW its 1 1/2'' .120 DOM. It will be part of a full exo someday.

As for the proportioning valve I can just cut the shaft and let it just float there?? thats awesome.

Any one got any info on how to deal with that cross member I refered to in post #2. Thanks

**Tofer** · 12-28-2005, 01:34 PM

*subscribes* i like pretty pictures

Robinhood150 · 12-28-2005, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4rnr

As for the proportioning valve I can just cut the shaft and let it just float there?? thats awesome.

The valve is the least of your problems (considering the scope of the project), it ain't a big deal. I highly recommend some kind of valve in there, not just straight piping or you'll tend to want to swap ends in a panic stop.

I have mine zip tied up to the frame temporarily. The cheap way is to use the factory one and figure out a way to make it adjustable either by a turn buckle or some other mechanism. You can get the wilwood one and it'll do the same thing, it just costs money.

Geiger has a good article about what he did on off-road.com.

NCSU-4runner · 12-28-2005, 02:11 PM

cutting it all off is fun, grinding it down smooth. . . thats another story

**waskillywabbit** · 12-28-2005, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoclimber

Hey Brian...do you think he was inspired by your "maniacal rant"?

(Just kiddin'...)

:pat:

4rnr · 12-28-2005, 05:09 PM

Im not worried about the scope of this project, it should be a joy compared to the 3.4 swap with an auto I just did.

I didnt get much done today I had to replace the spark plugs in my dads suburban, and help my buddy get his new 8274 wired. Tomarow I am going to pick up the plasma cutter, and wire up 220 in the garage.

Still no suggestions on how to deal with the crossmember

**Tofer** · 12-28-2005, 05:22 PM

i'll call a buddy who did 63" chevy springs in the rear, and see what he did.

Napoleon047 · 12-28-2005, 06:17 PM

just chop off the drop part of it. the only purpose to the drop part is to hold the panhard. leaf sprung trucks dont even have that crossmember. you will be fine.

joez · 12-28-2005, 06:55 PM

I used a turnbuckle on my LSPV so that way it was still adjustable. Works pretty well IMHO.

If at any time you want a hand with it, PM me or give me a call. I think ive got the next couple saturdays off.

FilthyRich · 12-28-2005, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdastg1

"hhmmm it's a nice day out. I think I'll SAS my truck"

lol

it was nice today and I changed the fluid in my truck :pat:

me likey

4rnr · 12-28-2005, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napoleon047

just chop off the drop part of it. the only purpose to the drop part is to hold the panhard. leaf sprung trucks dont even have that crossmember. you will be fine.

Thanks thats probably what im going to do. I was just concerned bc its going to destroy the structural integrity of it.

Marc P · 12-28-2005, 08:25 PM

I have always liked your 2nd gen..it will be sweet with the SAS and 3.4

If I had the $$ and skill, I would do the exact same setup.

4rnr · 12-28-2005, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc P

I have always liked your 2nd gen..it will be sweet with the SAS and 3.4

If I had the $$ and skill, I would do the exact same setup.

I wish I had a 3.4 in that runner. the 3.4 swap I did was in my buddies 92 runner.

Oh and I have NOOOOO $$ Im a poor college kid I recently started working so I decided to SAS.

If I dont sas Ill just waste money on chili cheese dogs and beer then Ill be poor, fat, and STILL on ifs.

12-28-2005, 09:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Ive got a question for all you guys who have done coil to leaf conversions. What do you do about the proportioning valve that has the long load sensor on it. id like to do away with the entire system and run normal brakes. The other question is the cross member has the large triangle that hangs down for the panhard bar. If I just cut it off it will weaken the cross member. Heres a pic to help ya see what im saying.. For some reason i cant get that pic to normal size so when I dont need it anymore ill delete it (I hate wide threads) __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915 Last edited by 4rnr; 12-28-2005 at 09:41 AM.

12-28-2005, 09:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,544	You have a load sensing proportioning valve...you need to install a "manual proportioning valve" in line w/ the rear brake line...you can get them from Summit Racing cheap. Look under my rear disc conversion on "Project Wabbit" on my website and you can see some pics of one and where I put mine. Good start... __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

12-28-2005, 10:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
Tacoclimber Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Between a rock and a hard place, AZ Posts: 3,713	By the way, 4rnr, I really dig the "combo bumper slider" deal. That's awesome. Good luck with your conversion! __________________ CJ ...<>< 03 DC TRD Tacoma 4wd with a bunch of junk. SOLD 1964 Chevy Biscayne, 230 I6, lowered, satin black, old-school legit. Just wheel the stupid thing!!! But do it responsibly, ok? My band: Road Worn Saints

12-28-2005, 10:39 AM	#9 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 897	if you don't want it too high, all pro makes a 3'' spring that still works with highsteer. but you don't want to go any lower than that. btw-I love the way your runner looks in that first pic! It's gonna be really sweet when you get done with it. keep us posted! __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-35" BFG M/T-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders-TG Front Bumper SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

12-28-2005, 11:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,057	"hhmmm it's a nice day out. I think I'll SAS my truck" lol __________________ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, and the lesson afterwards. <-- the artist formerly known as sdastg1

12-28-2005, 09:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ric Banned - User requested Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: earth Posts: 4,494	that thing looks good as it sits, keep us posted on the swap.

12-28-2005, 10:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
rockota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 742	I really like how it sits w/ the IFS - nice and low. Looks good! You can keep the LSPV if you'd like and fab up a bracket to make it work w/ the leafs.... or do as Brian suggests and replace it w/ a manual... OR just tie it up like most of us have done... works great.

12-28-2005, 01:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,899	subscribes i like pretty pictures __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

12-28-2005, 02:11 PM	#16 (permalink)
NCSU-4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 1,597	cutting it all off is fun, grinding it down smooth. . . thats another story __________________ Jeremy, 94 4Runner Turbo Leaf Spring SAS front - Coilover 4link rear (starts December) / Supra Swap My Truck is featured on Supracharged.com - Home of the original Supra swap and Forum One of two things will happen, I will die, or the truck will be finished. I'm not sure which will be first.

12-28-2005, 05:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Im not worried about the scope of this project, it should be a joy compared to the 3.4 swap with an auto I just did. I didnt get much done today I had to replace the spark plugs in my dads suburban, and help my buddy get his new 8274 wired. Tomarow I am going to pick up the plasma cutter, and wire up 220 in the garage. Still no suggestions on how to deal with the crossmember __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915 Last edited by 4rnr; 12-28-2005 at 05:11 PM.

12-28-2005, 05:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,899	i'll call a buddy who did 63" chevy springs in the rear, and see what he did. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

12-28-2005, 06:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
Napoleon047 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 995	just chop off the drop part of it. the only purpose to the drop part is to hold the panhard. leaf sprung trucks dont even have that crossmember. you will be fine. __________________ -Peter 86 4runner SAS - Trail Rig 94 FZJ80 - DD the dirt cheap SAS Marko Customs

12-28-2005, 06:55 PM	#21 (permalink)
joez Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Elwood, Il Posts: 1,253	I used a turnbuckle on my LSPV so that way it was still adjustable. Works pretty well IMHO. If at any time you want a hand with it, PM me or give me a call. I think ive got the next couple saturdays off. __________________ -Joe Z Chicago 4x4 My Webshots 1985 Toyota 4Runner, 3" Trail Gear rear/ All-Pro front springs, 42x14 IROK's, Allied Rockathons, spool rear/detroit front, 30 spline longs, Dual cases w/4.7, Marlin High steer, lots of other stuff.. 1997 Dodge 2500 4x4, 12valve CTD, not stock.

12-28-2005, 08:25 PM	#24 (permalink)
Marc P Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Santee, CA Posts: 2,736	I have always liked your 2nd gen..it will be sweet with the SAS and 3.4 If I had the $$ and skill, I would do the exact same setup. __________________ 1995 4Runner---SAS with goodies

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