Fall 2007 Run Schedule

sschaefer3 · 08-28-2007, 09:11 AM

Here are the runs scheduled for this fall. If you are interested in attending and are not on our e-mail list, contact me and I will get you the information. We had problems in the past posting runs and details on message boards as 55+ trucks turned out one time. No I am not kidding. Target size for the groups is 7-10 vehicles.

You can contact me at: steve@sonoransteel.com

September 8, 2007:
Trail 404 - North Phoenix
Lead By: Steve Reynolds

September 22, 2007:
Chivo Falls - Tucson
Lead By: Steve Schaefer

October 13, 2007
Hackberry Creek/Oak Flats Campground
Leader: Brian Westfall

November 3, 2007
DeSoto Mine - Mayer
Leader: Usually Mark Longfield, if he can not do it we all know the trail.

November 24, 2007
Raw Deal/Upper Terminator/Lower Terminator
Leader: Steve Schaefer

December 15, 2007
Martinez Canyon
Leader: Steve Schaefer

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wormhole · 08-28-2007, 01:04 PM

Steve could you post the trail ratings for those of us who are not familar with those trails.

Also, if you interested ttora and the yuma4wheelers are going to holding an event in november sometime here in yuma (trail leader is Big Chris)

Elvota · 08-28-2007, 02:45 PM

Details on the Trail 404 run...
http://www.yotatech.com/f66/trail-40.../#post50603296

sschaefer3 · 08-28-2007, 02:58 PM

September 8, 2007:
Trail 404 - North Phoenix
This is a hard trail, 2 lockers, bumpers and sliders

September 22, 2007:
Chivo Falls - Tucson
Hard, No Fully Open Diffs and Sliders Required

October 13, 2007
Hackberry Creek/Oak Flats Campground
In the Middle, not really hard, not easy. You better have sliders

November 3, 2007
DeSoto Mine - Mayer
In the Middle, not really hard, not easy. You better have slider

November 24, 2007
Raw Deal/Upper Terminator/Lower Terminator
Raw Deal not bad: Upper Terminator, Rear Locker and Sliders: Lower Terminator Extremely Difficult

December 15, 2007
Martinez Canyon
Hard, No Fully Open Diffs and Sliders Required

Everything is harder than Sunflower, Smiley Face or Red Creek. This group has been wheeling together for 3-4 years now, most of the IFS trucks are gone and everyone pretty much has straight axle trucks. Now that is not to say that your IFS truck is not welcome, it sure is, what I am saying is that it's a great group people that are really into the sport and we all have traded for or swapped to live axle vehicles at this point. We all started out with IFS trucks in the beginning. I went back to one to make it harder again.

Kent and Brian (Tall) are the latest SA converts.

Elvota · 08-28-2007, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

September 8, 2007:
Trail 404 - North Phoenix
This is a hard trail, 2 lockers, bumpers and sliders

The general route would be considered easier. Advanced route would not be mandatory, but would be fun to watch.

Wormhole... I recall your concerns with brush... so 404 would not be a good choice. But maybe there will be an extra seat if you'd like to ride along.

wormhole · 08-28-2007, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

Everything is harder than Sunflower, Smiley Face or Red Creek. This group has been wheeling together for 3-4 years now, most of the IFS trucks are gone and everyone pretty much has straight axle trucks. Now that is not to say that your IFS truck is not welcome, it sure is, what I am saying is that it's a great group people that are really into the sport and we all have traded for or swapped to live axle vehicles at this point. We all started out with IFS trucks in the beginning. I went back to one to make it harder again.

Kent and Brian (Tall) are the latest SA converts.

Understood.

I'm still fairly new this too all of this anyways. If there is ever an open seat and if I can make it over that way I'd love to join you guys.

One day I've my landcruiser that I've always wanted and then I'll be able to join the SAS group (baby steps first though, although maybe I'll build a rally car instead).

In case your wondering Steve I'm still planning to have that locker installed but I have to deal with a health issed that has just recently came up (hernia).

wormhole · 08-28-2007, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvota

The general route would be considered easier. Advanced route would not be mandatory, but would be fun to watch.

Wormhole... I recall your concerns with brush... so 404 would not be a good choice. But maybe there will be an extra seat if you'd like to ride along.

I might take up on that offer one of these times.
Thanks

If my 4runner was white I wouldn't mind the brush so much.

111db · 08-28-2007, 08:26 PM

Unfortunately I've got most of those weekends already booked up.

Guess I have a deadline for the diff installs - Sept 22. That weekend was free. Hope to make it.

Henrythewound · 08-28-2007, 09:15 PM

I would be interested in watching you guys do Chiva (I think it's Chiva not Chivo). I once saw a guy testing Land Rovers out there, I have ridden in an old Land Cruiser there myself. I doubt I would want to bang my 4Runner up just yet. Steve, I am planning on getting that 7.1 installed ASAP, thanks for welding the sliders, they look great!

~joe

AxleIke · 08-28-2007, 09:43 PM

Hello Arizonians.

I'm planning on trekking down to AZ for the Dec 15 Martinez run.

Going to work with Schaefer to organize and get in a few other trails on some other days.

Looking forward to meeting you all!

westy44runner · 08-28-2007, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxleIke

Hello Arizonians.

I'm planning on trekking down to AZ for the Dec 15 Martinez run.

Going to work with Schaefer to organize and get in a few other trails on some other days.

Looking forward to meeting you all!

Cool - you will enjoy Martinez. It is one of the most scenic places in AZ and offers great 4wheeling. You wont be dissapointed...

AxleIke · 08-29-2007, 07:55 AM

I am very excited. And I know I won't be dissapointed!

SOAZtim · 08-30-2007, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henrythewound

I would be interested in watching you guys do Chiva (I think it's Chiva not Chivo). I once saw a guy testing Land Rovers out there, I have ridden in an old Land Cruiser there myself. I doubt I would want to bang my 4Runner up just yet. Steve, I am planning on getting that 7.1 installed ASAP, thanks for welding the sliders, they look great!

~joe

Keep in mind if you are careful and go down the main obsticle and then out an alternate way this trail is pretty darn easy. I used to do it in my 2wd prerunner all the time in college. My 4runner is pretty stock so if we had to we could break off from the group and go out the easy way. (if we both even make it to the run)

Bighead · 08-30-2007, 10:54 AM

I'm checking my work schedule to see what I can hit between the classes I have to teach.

Elvota · 08-30-2007, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxleIke

Looking forward to meeting you all!

Will be nice to meet you as well. I've enjoyed all the CO trail pics you've posted.

Schaefer has plenty of places to wheel down here. I am sure you can hit something new everyday of your trip if you'd like.

Also sure you'll find more than a few of us will be willing to tag along as well.

AxleIke · 08-30-2007, 12:56 PM

Well, I've put in for leave from the 13th-17th.

This leaves the 13th and the 17th as drive days, and the 14th, 15th, and 16th for wheeling.

I hope you can make it too Lance.

wormhole · 09-09-2007, 10:11 PM

I would make the 22 run but I'll be recovering from surgery. So I'll try to make it over there for the october 13th run but I'll probable just ride along with someone if they don't mind.

westy44runner · 09-10-2007, 04:06 PM

Hackberry Creek run posted - Oct 13th

http://www.yotatech.com/f66/hackberr...t-13-a-124431/

111db · 09-10-2007, 05:15 PM

Will Chivo test my new ARB's adequately?

SOAZtim · 09-20-2007, 04:14 PM

So who is headed to Tuck sone??

sschaefer3 · 09-20-2007, 04:37 PM

Myself, Mike T, A buddie of his and Kent for sure. Tall Brian will be on the way back from Denver with an 1988 SA'd 4Runner so he'll be back in the saddle with a fully built 1st Gen 4Runner.

I will bring my 4Runner to this one since the red truck is being re-painted and it involves an I-10 run. I am still trying to get liability Insurance for the buggy, it's not as easy as you would think.

sschaefer3 · 09-20-2007, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 111db

Will Chivo test my new ARB's adequately?

We'll find a stupid spot if there is not a normal hard spot.

111db · 09-20-2007, 06:15 PM

Busy week at work and no time to install my compressor (although I have some time this evening). I read the trail description above (locker required). I also thought I saw on TTORA that this trail can run without lockers. Is it rougher than the rock garden on Log Corral? Are there bypasses for the crazy stuff? I'd love to see the trail... I have shackles and a decent tow strap. I would have an experience spotter riding shotgun. Verdict?

sschaefer3 · 09-20-2007, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 111db

Busy week at work and no time to install my compressor (although I have some time this evening). I read the trail description above (locker required). I also thought I saw on TTORA that this trail can run without lockers. Is it rougher than the rock garden on Log Corral? Are there bypasses for the crazy stuff? I'd love to see the trail... I have shackles and a decent tow strap. I would have an experience spotter riding shotgun. Verdict?

Verdict is that the Dana 44 1 Ton 4Runner can pull you through what ever you can't make. Come on down and drive it, you'll get help if you need it.

No problems. You guys want to see a straight axled 3rd Gen in action anyways right? Plus the Monster Tacoma will be there, Tow Trucks a plenty.

111db · 09-20-2007, 07:22 PM

Sounds like a deal. See you at 8:30. Not familiar with the rest stop but I'll find it (hopefully) CB Channel?

08-28-2007, 01:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
wormhole Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bountiful, Utah Posts: 1,526	Steve could you post the trail ratings for those of us who are not familar with those trails. Also, if you interested ttora and the yuma4wheelers are going to holding an event in november sometime here in yuma (trail leader is Big Chris) __________________ 2000 Toyota 4runner auto, 4x4, elocker, budbuilt skid, Sonoran Steel 7.2, 265/75/16 Yokohoma Geolanders AT-S Just call me "T" Last edited by wormhole; 08-28-2007 at 01:08 PM.

08-28-2007, 02:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Elvota Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,436	Details on the Trail 404 run... http://www.yotatech.com/f66/trail-40.../#post50603296 __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY visit the sticki chronicles

08-28-2007, 02:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	September 8, 2007: Trail 404 - North Phoenix This is a hard trail, 2 lockers, bumpers and sliders September 22, 2007: Chivo Falls - Tucson Hard, No Fully Open Diffs and Sliders Required October 13, 2007 Hackberry Creek/Oak Flats Campground In the Middle, not really hard, not easy. You better have sliders November 3, 2007 DeSoto Mine - Mayer In the Middle, not really hard, not easy. You better have slider November 24, 2007 Raw Deal/Upper Terminator/Lower Terminator Raw Deal not bad: Upper Terminator, Rear Locker and Sliders: Lower Terminator Extremely Difficult December 15, 2007 Martinez Canyon Hard, No Fully Open Diffs and Sliders Required Everything is harder than Sunflower, Smiley Face or Red Creek. This group has been wheeling together for 3-4 years now, most of the IFS trucks are gone and everyone pretty much has straight axle trucks. Now that is not to say that your IFS truck is not welcome, it sure is, what I am saying is that it's a great group people that are really into the sport and we all have traded for or swapped to live axle vehicles at this point. We all started out with IFS trucks in the beginning. I went back to one to make it harder again. Kent and Brian (Tall) are the latest SA converts. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

08-28-2007, 08:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
111db Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 1,215	Unfortunately I've got most of those weekends already booked up. Guess I have a deadline for the diff installs - Sept 22. That weekend was free. Hope to make it. __________________ Jon *97 4Runner 3.4 4.88's * ARB Lockers F/R * ARB compressor * Sonoran Steel numba 1 * 285 BFG AT/KO * TJM 17 * BudBuilt Skids * Stubbs Sliders & BBQ sauce * Irbis out back * Various Electronic Gadgets**

08-28-2007, 09:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
Henrythewound Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 415	I would be interested in watching you guys do Chiva (I think it's Chiva not Chivo). I once saw a guy testing Land Rovers out there, I have ridden in an old Land Cruiser there myself. I doubt I would want to bang my 4Runner up just yet. Steve, I am planning on getting that 7.1 installed ASAP, thanks for welding the sliders, they look great! ~joe __________________ Joe aka Henrythewound 2000 Toyota 4Runner 4WD, Stubbs SKO sliders, SS 7.1, 265/75/16 BFG ATs An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered. G. K. Chesterton

08-28-2007, 09:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,887	Hello Arizonians. I'm planning on trekking down to AZ for the Dec 15 Martinez run. Going to work with Schaefer to organize and get in a few other trails on some other days. Looking forward to meeting you all! __________________ 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

08-29-2007, 07:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,887	I am very excited. And I know I won't be dissapointed! __________________ 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

08-30-2007, 10:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
Bighead Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,340	I'm checking my work schedule to see what I can hit between the classes I have to teach. __________________ Lance 2001 4Runner Limited 4X4 -- 315/75R16 MT/Rs \| MT Classic IIs \| Dual ARBs/4.88s \| (F) 5125/Tundra Coils (R) 5125/LC Coils \| 4Crawler 1.5" BL \| Aisin Manual Hubs \| Slee Sliders \| Sonoran Steel Rear Bumper \| TJM T-15 w/ Warn M8000 2004 Land Cruiser -- OME Medium Lift \| Nitto Terra Grapplers

08-30-2007, 12:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,887	Well, I've put in for leave from the 13th-17th. This leaves the 13th and the 17th as drive days, and the 14th, 15th, and 16th for wheeling. I hope you can make it too Lance. __________________ 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

09-09-2007, 10:11 PM	#17 (permalink)
wormhole Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bountiful, Utah Posts: 1,526	I would make the 22 run but I'll be recovering from surgery. So I'll try to make it over there for the october 13th run but I'll probable just ride along with someone if they don't mind. __________________ 2000 Toyota 4runner auto, 4x4, elocker, budbuilt skid, Sonoran Steel 7.2, 265/75/16 Yokohoma Geolanders AT-S Just call me "T" Last edited by wormhole; 09-09-2007 at 10:13 PM.

09-10-2007, 04:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
westy44runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 967	Hackberry Creek run posted - Oct 13th http://www.yotatech.com/f66/hackberr...t-13-a-124431/ __________________ '86 Toy Flatbed with a few modifications

09-10-2007, 05:15 PM	#19 (permalink)
111db Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 1,215	Will Chivo test my new ARB's adequately? __________________ Jon *97 4Runner 3.4 4.88's * ARB Lockers F/R * ARB compressor * Sonoran Steel numba 1 * 285 BFG AT/KO * TJM 17 * BudBuilt Skids * Stubbs Sliders & BBQ sauce * Irbis out back * Various Electronic Gadgets**

09-20-2007, 04:14 PM	#20 (permalink)
SOAZtim Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Snobsdale, SOuthern AriZona. Posts: 807	So who is headed to Tuck sone?? __________________ 2001 4runner. 255/85/16 BFG KM, A-trac/VSC disable switch. DR coilovers. OME rear springs with bilsteins, 4.88 gears with ARB lockers. Waeco CF-50 fridge. Home made sleeping platform with drawers. Home made rear bumper. Home made sliders. Blue sea fuse box. ICV8000 Icom 2meter. Uniden CB in ashtray. Donaldson Top Spin pre-filter with home made snorkel. TJM front bumper with m8000 and syn line. Baja Rack Mega Mule roof rack. Lowrance. 7" hid's. Lots of scratches. www.soaztim.com

09-20-2007, 04:37 PM	#21 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	Myself, Mike T, A buddie of his and Kent for sure. Tall Brian will be on the way back from Denver with an 1988 SA'd 4Runner so he'll be back in the saddle with a fully built 1st Gen 4Runner. I will bring my 4Runner to this one since the red truck is being re-painted and it involves an I-10 run. I am still trying to get liability Insurance for the buggy, it's not as easy as you would think. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

09-20-2007, 06:15 PM	#23 (permalink)
111db Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 1,215	Busy week at work and no time to install my compressor (although I have some time this evening). I read the trail description above (locker required). I also thought I saw on TTORA that this trail can run without lockers. Is it rougher than the rock garden on Log Corral? Are there bypasses for the crazy stuff? I'd love to see the trail... I have shackles and a decent tow strap. I would have an experience spotter riding shotgun. Verdict? __________________ Jon *97 4Runner 3.4 4.88's * ARB Lockers F/R * ARB compressor * Sonoran Steel numba 1 * 285 BFG AT/KO * TJM 17 * BudBuilt Skids * Stubbs Sliders & BBQ sauce * Irbis out back * Various Electronic Gadgets**

09-20-2007, 07:22 PM	#25 (permalink)
111db Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 1,215	Sounds like a deal. See you at 8:30. Not familiar with the rest stop but I'll find it (hopefully) CB Channel? __________________ Jon *97 4Runner 3.4 4.88's * ARB Lockers F/R * ARB compressor * Sonoran Steel numba 1 * 285 BFG AT/KO * TJM 17 * BudBuilt Skids * Stubbs Sliders & BBQ sauce * Irbis out back * Various Electronic Gadgets**

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