BLKNBLU's SAC - Page 7

BLKNBLU · 03-09-2009, 07:21 PM

So the diff got re-geared a couple weeks ago and is back in along with new seals on the rear axle. Bare metal is painted in one fashion or another. Installed the ARB compressor over the past couple days, what a PITA. Seems to work well though so at least that's a good thing. Thought the drive shafts would be here today but no...

Now it's back to work again. No pics. None of it was very interesting.

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toyospearo · 03-09-2009, 07:43 PM

good to hear you are making some progress!
I wish to hell I was on my SAS

BLKNBLU · 03-09-2009, 09:27 PM

Ahhh.... What the hell. Pics.

BLKNBLU · 03-16-2009, 07:31 PM

Pretty much back together. Can't get the new front driveshaft to let go of it's compressed position, so I've still got that to get on. Open to ideas of how to get that biotch to let loose. Schaefer gave me one idea that I'm about to go work on now.

Here she is on 35's and no way it's going to fit in the garage. Sorry for the screwy lighting.

BLKNBLU · 03-17-2009, 03:36 PM

Something is wrong.

I got the driveshaft to extend, hooked it up, and went out for a little test run. Everything seems fine. Shift to 4WD and get LOTS of vibration that kind of clears up with a little speed i.e. 20 miles per hour. This is 4hi, straight line, hubs and locker unlocked. Take an easy turn and get lots of vibes and bucking again. Locked it in and essentially the same, maybe a little worse. No loud clanks, pops, or grinding though. Had previously checked the ARB and it appeared to function properly, but I forgot to try a check of 30 minutes continuous locked position to double check for leaks. Fired up the compressor and it ran for a few seconds as expected. Engaged the locker and got continuous compressor running. Found air leaking at the diff breather at a steady flow. Dammit. I've got a bad feeling about this.

Opinions?

sschaefer3 · 03-19-2009, 07:00 AM

I don't think the front axle is put together right. If the front locker is leaking inside, the seal thing that rides next to the bearing is not sealing.

If the rear turns smooth now, with the rear diff re-build, it has to be the front axle, and no don't worry, the tube is not bent. There was that shh shh shh sound all along. I was hoping it was the rear diffs dust shield.

The fact that you had to grind for a stock axle is the first place to look, they go in really easy. Something is not put together right, unfortunately you will have to take the front diff back to ZUK as once they leak, they will always leak.

BLKNBLU · 03-19-2009, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

I don't think the front axle is put together right. If the front locker is leaking inside, the seal thing that rides next to the bearing is not sealing.

If the rear turns smooth now, with the rear diff re-build, it has to be the front axle, and no don't worry, the tube is not bent. There was that shh shh shh sound all along. I was hoping it was the rear diffs dust shield.

The fact that you had to grind for a stock axle is the first place to look, they go in really easy. Something is not put together right, unfortunately you will have to take the front diff back to ZUK as once they leak, they will always leak.

Yeah. I know I have to take it back apart which really bums me out, but why do think the tube is not bent? That's what worries me, especially in light of having to grind just to get the stock axles in place. I worry that I'll take the diff back to ZUK, get it all buttoned up again, and then have the same thing happen. On the other hand, I don't suppose there is really anything else to do except just assume the housing is bad, which then would be a whole different pile of inconvenience.

Obviously I have to tear it apart regardless. I'm just looking for other possible problems to keep an eye out for while I'm doing it.

Thanks.

sschaefer3 · 03-19-2009, 01:35 PM

Because everyone screams bent housing at the first sign of anything. Everything should be in sync when even the spindles go on. It is very complicated axle to assemble.

It has to come a part and you have to find out what is not put together right. I spent a lot time on that tube and everything I welded on lined up just fine. If the tube was bent, the upper truss would have told me. It is just simply not put together correctly. The the tube is fine. That is my call.

Maybe I am wrong, maybe not. We won't know until it comes apart again.

But the tube is not bent.

BLKNBLU · 03-19-2009, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

I spent a lot time on that tube and everything I welded on lined up just fine. If the tube was bent, the upper truss would have told me.

Thanks. That makes sense and is reassuring.

BLKNBLU · 03-30-2009, 06:56 PM

Finally got off my butt and took it apart today.

First though, it seems much of the vibration was from my own carelessness. I swung by Zuk's to let him see it before I pulled it apart and he noticed in about 2 seconds that I hadn't tightened up my d shaft bolts at the t case end. No doubt I got caught up in trying to get the shaft to release at the front end and overlooked that. Almost too embarassing to admit in public, but hey, I did it and I'll take my lumps.

On to the teardown. Got it apart.

The long side was still fussy about coming out, but it's out.
Locker problem is pretty obvious.

Looks like it got caught in the ring gear at the bottom here (sorry for the crappy focus) which yanked it out of the top as shown above.

Time to e mail ZUK and make an appointment.

toyospearo · 03-30-2009, 07:12 PM

oh man that sucks dude. Could be worse.
Truck is looking great! Your SA looks so good. The setup looks perfect. Welding and fabrication are great. I hope mine comes out even a fraction of how good yours looks.
Thanks for you help on the Head Gasket. It looks like the motor needs to be rebuilt. I had it up and running today and it is burning serious oil.

BLKNBLU · 03-30-2009, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyospearo

oh man that sucks dude. Could be worse.
Truck is looking great! Your SA looks so good. The setup looks perfect. Welding and fabrication are great. I hope mine comes out even a fraction of how good yours looks.
Thanks for you help on the Head Gasket. It looks like the motor needs to be rebuilt. I had it up and running today and it is burning serious oil.

Yep. Could've been worse. That part should only be about 20-30 bucks.

Thanks for the compliments but most of the props go to Steve Schaefer at Sonoran Steel. That's where the brains are on this project. I'm just the muscle.

I hope you mean that you started the truck up and checked out the symptoms, because if you did a HG in a day I have to bow down.

toyospearo · 03-30-2009, 08:04 PM

hahahah no. I got the thing torn apart today and the motor is toast. Burned rings, valves seals are history. I have to pull it and rebuild it.
The truck has been in trouble for a while and needs some attention. I did put a new door and fender on it while all this was going on. I was the JY and found an 85 2wd with a perfect door! I paid $75 for the door and $20 for the fender and a few other goodies. I sanded and primered the door and fender, put them on and it looks and fits great!
On to a new "22r rebuild thread."

sschaefer3 · 03-31-2009, 07:54 AM

See the tube is not bent, it was just not put together right.

sschaefer3 · 03-31-2009, 07:56 AM

Put the correct SA hard brake lines on those calipers while they are off. They were on the floor of the passenger side.

BLKNBLU · 04-17-2009, 05:58 PM

So, I guess it's done. I have it all back together and while it still shudders a fair bit locked into 4WD it seems to be working OK. At least this time I didn't rip up my ARB when I went into 4WD. (thanks ZUK)

A little pic comparo

At the start:

And at the end:

Start:

And end:

Not too sure about this drive shaft angle, but it will have to do for now.

Time to work out the kinks. Yay!!

sschaefer3 · 04-17-2009, 06:05 PM

That front drive shaft is pretty steep, this is a cookie cutter TrailGear/Marlin/All Pro swap so your truck is the same as everyone elses.

Is Tall Brian's like that? I don't remember. You got a winch.

Now you just need a 4.7 gear.

sschaefer3 · 04-17-2009, 06:07 PM

Also test the 4WD in the dirt not on the street. Mine binds on the street too.

BLKNBLU · 04-17-2009, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

That front drive shaft is pretty steep, this is a cookie cutter TrailGear/Marlin/All Pro swap so your truck is the same as everyone elses.

Is Tall Brian's like that? I don't remember. You got a winch.

Now you just need a 4.7 gear.

Yeah, I can't remember what anyone else's look like but figure the same as you, in that they all have to be pretty similar. Doesn't Brian have duals? That would help the angle.

The damn fairlead that came with the winch doesn't fit the Marlin bumper

so I guess I'm getting a Hawse and syn line sooner rather than "some day".

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

Also test the 4WD in the dirt not on the street. Mine binds on the street too.

That's what I'm hoping for too.

i_love_tacos · 04-18-2009, 12:02 AM

nice. looks really good.

bring it up to the rez and lets wheel!

AZ4ME · 04-19-2009, 12:08 AM

Dude, that's a pretty steep angle. I do have duel cases, so it moves the upper mount back 6-8" or so, but I think your main issue is your truck is so f'in huge. I think those springs should settle quite a bit after you use them. You stand a good chance of a u-joint binding at that angle, especially at droop.

I'll post a pic of my front d-shaft tomorrow for reference.

westy44runner · 04-20-2009, 11:27 AM

Thats steep but it might be ok...only way to find out! I'm sure once you break in those springs it will only help. Just carry extra u-joints and don't worry about it unless the situation arises.

I put those same springs on my truck and mine sits lower, but I think my shackles are shorter and I've got some more weight too.

wormhole · 04-20-2009, 12:56 PM

The 4runner looks good.

BLKNBLU · 04-20-2009, 08:18 PM

Found some dirt to putter around in today. Nothing fancy, just looking for problems.

Looks twisted up nicely

Hmm. Tweak #1 to deal with.

the bumpstop at that point

The relative position of the truck

The front view

And the amount of up travel still available in the front

Tried to do the same on the other side but couldn't get it stuffed enough

Another view. Still a couple of inches before contact at this point and the truck leaning enough to make me nervous. The truck seemed pretty stable though as I foolishly wiggled it a bit.

The front locker seems OK, though I didn't really find a worthy test out there. I took it up a little climb with and without the locker on and it seemed smoother and easier with it on so...

AZ4ME · 04-22-2009, 10:59 AM

Not exactly the "tomorrow", but here it is none the less.

03-09-2009, 07:43 PM	#152 (permalink)
toyospearo Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: way way nor cal Posts: 1,576	good to hear you are making some progress! I wish to hell I was on my SAS __________________ 94 Ext. cab 22re Aussied, 4.88's, SAS,ed, FLATBED, Old Man Emu rear leafs w/TG 5.5" shackles, TG sliders, LC Header, Marlin super HD clutch, 32's- Swamper TSL's- RC rims, Badland Bumper, lifted, lighted, LED'ed, Warned, alternatored (LC High ouput), Hammed, gusseted, trussed, etc, etc... My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/great-w...ck-sas-164531/ My Flatbed build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f88/toyospea...-build-191787/

03-09-2009, 09:27 PM	#153 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	Ahhh.... What the hell. Pics. __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

03-16-2009, 07:31 PM	#154 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	Pretty much back together. Can't get the new front driveshaft to let go of it's compressed position, so I've still got that to get on. Open to ideas of how to get that biotch to let loose. Schaefer gave me one idea that I'm about to go work on now. Here she is on 35's and no way it's going to fit in the garage. Sorry for the screwy lighting. __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

03-17-2009, 03:36 PM	#155 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	Something is wrong. I got the driveshaft to extend, hooked it up, and went out for a little test run. Everything seems fine. Shift to 4WD and get LOTS of vibration that kind of clears up with a little speed i.e. 20 miles per hour. This is 4hi, straight line, hubs and locker unlocked. Take an easy turn and get lots of vibes and bucking again. Locked it in and essentially the same, maybe a little worse. No loud clanks, pops, or grinding though. Had previously checked the ARB and it appeared to function properly, but I forgot to try a check of 30 minutes continuous locked position to double check for leaks. Fired up the compressor and it ran for a few seconds as expected. Engaged the locker and got continuous compressor running. Found air leaking at the diff breather at a steady flow. Dammit. I've got a bad feeling about this. Opinions? __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

03-19-2009, 07:00 AM	#156 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	I don't think the front axle is put together right. If the front locker is leaking inside, the seal thing that rides next to the bearing is not sealing. If the rear turns smooth now, with the rear diff re-build, it has to be the front axle, and no don't worry, the tube is not bent. There was that shh shh shh sound all along. I was hoping it was the rear diffs dust shield. The fact that you had to grind for a stock axle is the first place to look, they go in really easy. Something is not put together right, unfortunately you will have to take the front diff back to ZUK as once they leak, they will always leak. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

03-19-2009, 01:35 PM	#158 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	Because everyone screams bent housing at the first sign of anything. Everything should be in sync when even the spindles go on. It is very complicated axle to assemble. It has to come a part and you have to find out what is not put together right. I spent a lot time on that tube and everything I welded on lined up just fine. If the tube was bent, the upper truss would have told me. It is just simply not put together correctly. The the tube is fine. That is my call. Maybe I am wrong, maybe not. We won't know until it comes apart again. But the tube is not bent. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

03-30-2009, 06:56 PM	#160 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	Finally got off my butt and took it apart today. First though, it seems much of the vibration was from my own carelessness. I swung by Zuk's to let him see it before I pulled it apart and he noticed in about 2 seconds that I hadn't tightened up my d shaft bolts at the t case end. No doubt I got caught up in trying to get the shaft to release at the front end and overlooked that. Almost too embarassing to admit in public, but hey, I did it and I'll take my lumps. On to the teardown. Got it apart. The long side was still fussy about coming out, but it's out. Locker problem is pretty obvious. Looks like it got caught in the ring gear at the bottom here (sorry for the crappy focus) which yanked it out of the top as shown above. Time to e mail ZUK and make an appointment. __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

03-30-2009, 07:12 PM	#161 (permalink)
toyospearo Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: way way nor cal Posts: 1,576	oh man that sucks dude. Could be worse. Truck is looking great! Your SA looks so good. The setup looks perfect. Welding and fabrication are great. I hope mine comes out even a fraction of how good yours looks. Thanks for you help on the Head Gasket. It looks like the motor needs to be rebuilt. I had it up and running today and it is burning serious oil. __________________ 94 Ext. cab 22re Aussied, 4.88's, SAS,ed, FLATBED, Old Man Emu rear leafs w/TG 5.5" shackles, TG sliders, LC Header, Marlin super HD clutch, 32's- Swamper TSL's- RC rims, Badland Bumper, lifted, lighted, LED'ed, Warned, alternatored (LC High ouput), Hammed, gusseted, trussed, etc, etc... My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/great-w...ck-sas-164531/ My Flatbed build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f88/toyospea...-build-191787/ Last edited by toyospearo; 03-30-2009 at 07:14 PM.

03-30-2009, 08:04 PM	#163 (permalink)
toyospearo Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: way way nor cal Posts: 1,576	hahahah no. I got the thing torn apart today and the motor is toast. Burned rings, valves seals are history. I have to pull it and rebuild it. The truck has been in trouble for a while and needs some attention. I did put a new door and fender on it while all this was going on. I was the JY and found an 85 2wd with a perfect door! I paid $75 for the door and $20 for the fender and a few other goodies. I sanded and primered the door and fender, put them on and it looks and fits great! On to a new "22r rebuild thread." __________________ 94 Ext. cab 22re Aussied, 4.88's, SAS,ed, FLATBED, Old Man Emu rear leafs w/TG 5.5" shackles, TG sliders, LC Header, Marlin super HD clutch, 32's- Swamper TSL's- RC rims, Badland Bumper, lifted, lighted, LED'ed, Warned, alternatored (LC High ouput), Hammed, gusseted, trussed, etc, etc... My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/great-w...ck-sas-164531/ My Flatbed build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f88/toyospea...-build-191787/ Last edited by toyospearo; 03-30-2009 at 08:06 PM.

03-31-2009, 07:54 AM	#164 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	See the tube is not bent, it was just not put together right. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

03-31-2009, 07:56 AM	#165 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	Put the correct SA hard brake lines on those calipers while they are off. They were on the floor of the passenger side. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

04-17-2009, 05:58 PM	#166 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	So, I guess it's done. I have it all back together and while it still shudders a fair bit locked into 4WD it seems to be working OK. At least this time I didn't rip up my ARB when I went into 4WD. (thanks ZUK) A little pic comparo At the start: And at the end: Start: And end: Not too sure about this drive shaft angle, but it will have to do for now. Time to work out the kinks. Yay!! __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

04-17-2009, 06:05 PM	#167 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	That front drive shaft is pretty steep, this is a cookie cutter TrailGear/Marlin/All Pro swap so your truck is the same as everyone elses. Is Tall Brian's like that? I don't remember. You got a winch. Now you just need a 4.7 gear. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

04-17-2009, 06:07 PM	#168 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	Also test the 4WD in the dirt not on the street. Mine binds on the street too. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

04-18-2009, 12:02 AM	#170 (permalink)
i_love_tacos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tuba City, AZ Posts: 322	nice. looks really good. bring it up to the rez and lets wheel! __________________ 98 V6 toyota taco. Tundra coils. 1 inch daystar spacer. rancho shocks front. daystar shackles. 2.5 inch downey rear leafs. bilstien 5125 shocks rear. K&N FIPK 2. jardine cat back exhaust. stubbs sliders. TJM front bumper. 33" bfg all terrains

04-19-2009, 12:08 AM	#171 (permalink)
AZ4ME Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: PHX Posts: 473	Dude, that's a pretty steep angle. I do have duel cases, so it moves the upper mount back 6-8" or so, but I think your main issue is your truck is so f'in huge. I think those springs should settle quite a bit after you use them. You stand a good chance of a u-joint binding at that angle, especially at droop. I'll post a pic of my front d-shaft tomorrow for reference. __________________ -Brian '88 4Runner '00 4Runner Last edited by AZ4ME; 04-19-2009 at 12:16 AM.

04-20-2009, 11:27 AM	#172 (permalink)
westy44runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 967	Thats steep but it might be ok...only way to find out! I'm sure once you break in those springs it will only help. Just carry extra u-joints and don't worry about it unless the situation arises. I put those same springs on my truck and mine sits lower, but I think my shackles are shorter and I've got some more weight too. __________________ '86 Toy Flatbed with a few modifications

04-20-2009, 12:56 PM	#173 (permalink)
wormhole Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bountiful, Utah Posts: 1,526	The 4runner looks good. __________________ 2000 Toyota 4runner auto, 4x4, elocker, budbuilt skid, Sonoran Steel 7.2, 265/75/16 Yokohoma Geolanders AT-S Just call me "T"

04-20-2009, 08:18 PM	#174 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	Found some dirt to putter around in today. Nothing fancy, just looking for problems. Looks twisted up nicely Hmm. Tweak #1 to deal with. the bumpstop at that point The relative position of the truck The front view And the amount of up travel still available in the front Tried to do the same on the other side but couldn't get it stuffed enough Another view. Still a couple of inches before contact at this point and the truck leaning enough to make me nervous. The truck seemed pretty stable though as I foolishly wiggled it a bit. The front locker seems OK, though I didn't really find a worthy test out there. I took it up a little climb with and without the locker on and it seemed smoother and easier with it on so... __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

04-22-2009, 10:59 AM	#175 (permalink)
AZ4ME Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: PHX Posts: 473	Not exactly the "tomorrow", but here it is none the less. __________________ -Brian '88 4Runner '00 4Runner

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