BLKNBLU's SAC - Page 5

BLKNBLU · 12-16-2008, 08:22 PM

Day 2 of the rear lift went well.
As promised, a couple pics of the cleaned off axle and frame.

The axle sans perches

The front hanger gone and markings for the new hanger location.

Former shackle hanger location.

Steves experience with these has been that they end up butt low so we decided to mount the shackle hanger on a 2 inch block, fabbed up here...

...and with the shackle hanger in place and still smokin'.

In with the new...

Then we got a little busy with getting the springs hung and trial fitting the axle. Here is the test fit of the axle for the first time with full weight on it. From here we were able to fudge it around a bit to determine the best position for perches.

And the final stance (before settling) with a smiling Steve, done for the day.

And one last crappy, dark, and rainy shot.

Now there will be some fiddling with bumpstops and shock placement, but starting to near the end. Sadly, it's back to that job thing for me now.

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904_runner · 12-16-2008, 08:39 PM

Time for some Bigger tires yet? lol

Its looking good!!!!!!!!

wormhole · 12-16-2008, 08:47 PM

Looks good Mike, should be fun toy once it's done.

toyospearo · 12-16-2008, 09:03 PM

Looks REALLY good!
I wish mine was that far along.
Keep up the great work

westy44runner · 12-17-2008, 07:22 AM

It looks like the 4runner will fit some nice big shoes now!

Looking good there...

i_love_tacos · 12-17-2008, 03:28 PM

nice. cant wait to see it in action.

sschaefer3 · 12-30-2008, 06:40 AM

With the holidays past and the disc brakes installed on my buggy, it is once again time to work on the blue beast.

It has a full tank of gas so I do not blow up, and it sure starts and runs a lot better with a full tank.

Next up plasma off the last of the front IFS brackets and weld on the motor mount plates.

BLKNBLU · 12-30-2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

... it is once again time to work on the blue beast.

Next up plasma off the last of the front IFS brackets and weld on the motor mount plates.

Yay!

toyospearo · 12-30-2008, 04:11 PM

HOLY CRAP nice welds!

Looking great!

sschaefer3 · 01-02-2009, 05:05 PM

This is today. Those 2" shackle blocks are MUST as these are 5" TG rear leafs. 4" fronts.

904_runner · 01-02-2009, 06:22 PM

is that pic on 31"s?

874runnersr5 · 01-02-2009, 06:43 PM

nice!!!!!!!

BLKNBLU · 01-04-2009, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 904_runner

is that pic on 31"s?

Sorry for the slow response... been working. Yes, the pic is still with 31's. Still have 4.10 gearing in the rear. At first I was going to yank the diff and get it over to Zuk while the truck was down anyways, but then we decided it made more sense to leave it buttoned up while we were making dust and metal flakes and slag all over the place. I'll also leave the 31's on it until I get the alignment dialed in perfectly. I might as well scuff up the old rubber rather than the new.

AZ4ME · 01-05-2009, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLKNBLU

Sorry for the slow response... been working. Yes, the pic is still with 31's. Still have 4.10 gearing in the rear. At first I was going to yank the diff and get it over to Zuk while the truck was down anyways, but then we decided it made more sense to leave it buttoned up while we were making dust and metal flakes and slag all over the place. I'll also leave the 31's on it until I get the alignment dialed in perfectly. I might as well scuff up the old rubber rather than the new.

What tires did you decide to go with?

westy44runner · 01-05-2009, 01:51 PM

Tires...I asked the same thing before and he is using some old used tires for now - seen in the background here:

Mastercraft AT in a 35/1250/15

...I see that rubber being very short term!

is that bike from 1964???

BLKNBLU · 01-05-2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westy44runner

is that bike from 1964???

Close. '69

sschaefer3 · 01-07-2009, 11:08 AM

Well......

The rear end is going to HAVE to get custom shock mounts. To run those 14" shocks on the stock rear mounts they would need to have a compressed value of 19" they are 20.75", 1 3/4" too long. No way to mount the lower mount any lower. That is in the lowest spot, under the axle already. I will have to build a bar up as high as possible and they will then work just fine.

Even though we followed the directions to the tee. The rear shackles are raked back a bit form sitting on the springs for a few weeks now. I am seriously considering going one up in those.

The kit came with 5", I am considering going to 6". This call has to be made before the bump stops and shocks placement or that will be screwed up.

Finally these wet noodle rear spring will HAVE to get a traction bar. They wrap going up the driveway.

I have lots of pics, I will post when I get a minute.

sschaefer3 · 01-07-2009, 12:59 PM

Ok.......

I can make the 14's work in the front. That has 4" of up travel and with the body lift, I was able to get quite a bit of room up there.

Rear has 5" of up, I need a compressed value of 19 or less and the 12's will do that. So they will work on the rear.

Mike- Call me about the shackles. I think we need to switch them out.

westy44runner · 01-07-2009, 02:06 PM

What are the plans for the driveshafts?

Any future plans for a crawl box or 4.7s?

BLKNBLU · 01-07-2009, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

Ok.......

I can make the 14's work in the front. That has 4" of up travel and with the body lift, I was able to get quite a bit of room up there.

Rear has 5" of up, I need a compressed value of 19 or less and the 12's will do that. So they will work on the rear.

Mike- Call me about the shackles. I think we need to switch them out.

Good. I'm relieved about the shocks. I was going to say we should have TG swap them out for something shorter that will work rather than having to fab around a too long shock. But if they are all good, then

Do what you need to with the shackles. Any chance TG will exchange or will we have to sell them off on the board to recoup some $?

Quote:

Originally Posted by westy44runner

What are the plans for the driveshafts?

Any future plans for a crawl box or 4.7s?

I'm going to put a dual in it straight off. I see no point in re working the shafts twice, and you know I'm going to end up there eventually. Once that's in, I'll get measurements and send the shafts to JE Reel. Also still need to get the rear diff to ZUK for a re gear, hook up the ARB compressor, find and install a winch, probably should do some rear axle upkeep while the diff is out.... Jesus

On a seperate note, did you get my e mail?

sschaefer3 · 01-08-2009, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLKNBLU

Do what you need to with the shackles. Any chance TG will exchange or will we have to sell them off on the board to recoup some $?

All we need is 4: 6" side plates. $20.00 for all 4. Very small investment.

Call me later, without that trac bar this thing is not going to climb anything. I think we need to bring that stuff in and at least get the mount welded on before you service the rear, so we just re-heat the old oil again.

sschaefer3 · 01-08-2009, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLKNBLU

On a seperate note, did you get my e mail?

I did not get any e-mails from you.

BLKNBLU · 01-08-2009, 10:24 AM

e mail question was to Brian

westy44runner · 01-08-2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

All we need is 4: 6" side plates. $20.00 for all 4. Very small investment.

Call me later, without that trac bar this thing is not going to climb anything. I think we need to bring that stuff in and at least get the mount welded on before you service the rear, so we just re-heat the old oil again.

...may as well throw that "Elvota rear disc setup" on too when you service the rear!

AZ4ME · 01-08-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westy44runner

...may as well throw that "Elvota rear disc setup" on too when you service the rear!

...and since you're at it, might as well throw in a 2.7 or 3.4 swap. That way I'll know what's involved.

12-16-2008, 08:39 PM	#102 (permalink)
904_runner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chico, California Posts: 3,781	Time for some Bigger tires yet? lol Its looking good!!!!!!!! __________________ Mike 1990 4runner: 3.4 swapped, 5-speed, sas'd, Rear leaf swap, Locked, 5.29's, 39.5" iroks on Beadlocks, Armor'd Longfields, Duals coming soon: My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/904_run...thread-158746/ http://www.treadlightly.org/ http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ery/index.html

12-16-2008, 08:47 PM	#103 (permalink)
wormhole Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bountiful, Utah Posts: 1,526	Looks good Mike, should be fun toy once it's done. __________________ 2000 Toyota 4runner auto, 4x4, elocker, budbuilt skid, Sonoran Steel 7.2, 265/75/16 Yokohoma Geolanders AT-S Just call me "T"

12-16-2008, 09:03 PM	#104 (permalink)
toyospearo Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: way way nor cal Posts: 1,576	Looks REALLY good! I wish mine was that far along. Keep up the great work __________________ 94 Ext. cab 22re Aussied, 4.88's, SAS,ed, FLATBED, Old Man Emu rear leafs w/TG 5.5" shackles, TG sliders, LC Header, Marlin super HD clutch, 32's- Swamper TSL's- RC rims, Badland Bumper, lifted, lighted, LED'ed, Warned, alternatored (LC High ouput), Hammed, gusseted, trussed, etc, etc... My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/great-w...ck-sas-164531/ My Flatbed build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f88/toyospea...-build-191787/

12-17-2008, 07:22 AM	#105 (permalink)
westy44runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 967	It looks like the 4runner will fit some nice big shoes now! Looking good there... __________________ '86 Toy Flatbed with a few modifications

12-17-2008, 03:28 PM	#106 (permalink)
i_love_tacos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tuba City, AZ Posts: 322	nice. cant wait to see it in action. __________________ 98 V6 toyota taco. Tundra coils. 1 inch daystar spacer. rancho shocks front. daystar shackles. 2.5 inch downey rear leafs. bilstien 5125 shocks rear. K&N FIPK 2. jardine cat back exhaust. stubbs sliders. TJM front bumper. 33" bfg all terrains

12-30-2008, 06:40 AM	#107 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	With the holidays past and the disc brakes installed on my buggy, it is once again time to work on the blue beast. It has a full tank of gas so I do not blow up, and it sure starts and runs a lot better with a full tank. Next up plasma off the last of the front IFS brackets and weld on the motor mount plates. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

12-30-2008, 04:11 PM	#109 (permalink)
toyospearo Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: way way nor cal Posts: 1,576	HOLY CRAP nice welds! Looking great! __________________ 94 Ext. cab 22re Aussied, 4.88's, SAS,ed, FLATBED, Old Man Emu rear leafs w/TG 5.5" shackles, TG sliders, LC Header, Marlin super HD clutch, 32's- Swamper TSL's- RC rims, Badland Bumper, lifted, lighted, LED'ed, Warned, alternatored (LC High ouput), Hammed, gusseted, trussed, etc, etc... My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/great-w...ck-sas-164531/ My Flatbed build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f88/toyospea...-build-191787/

01-02-2009, 05:05 PM	#110 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	This is today. Those 2" shackle blocks are MUST as these are 5" TG rear leafs. 4" fronts. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

01-02-2009, 06:22 PM	#111 (permalink)
904_runner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chico, California Posts: 3,781	is that pic on 31"s? __________________ Mike 1990 4runner: 3.4 swapped, 5-speed, sas'd, Rear leaf swap, Locked, 5.29's, 39.5" iroks on Beadlocks, Armor'd Longfields, Duals coming soon: My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/904_run...thread-158746/ http://www.treadlightly.org/ http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ery/index.html

01-02-2009, 06:43 PM	#112 (permalink)
874runnersr5 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Canaduh Posts: 2,783	nice!!!!!!! __________________ 87' 4runner Sr5 : 22re : 5spd : 32x11.5 BGF Km2 : Cragar 15x8 soft 8s : TG Rock Defense Front Bumper : Sirius radio : Optima Red Top : Pioneer system : Engnbldr tchain kit : Downey 3" leafs : Diff breather : Tube doors : Bikini Top Calgary Toyota Association I <3 my Toyota

01-05-2009, 01:51 PM	#115 (permalink)
westy44runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 967	Tires...I asked the same thing before and he is using some old used tires for now - seen in the background here: Mastercraft AT in a 35/1250/15 ...I see that rubber being very short term! is that bike from 1964??? __________________ '86 Toy Flatbed with a few modifications Last edited by westy44runner; 01-05-2009 at 01:53 PM.

01-07-2009, 11:08 AM	#117 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	Well...... The rear end is going to HAVE to get custom shock mounts. To run those 14" shocks on the stock rear mounts they would need to have a compressed value of 19" they are 20.75", 1 3/4" too long. No way to mount the lower mount any lower. That is in the lowest spot, under the axle already. I will have to build a bar up as high as possible and they will then work just fine. Even though we followed the directions to the tee. The rear shackles are raked back a bit form sitting on the springs for a few weeks now. I am seriously considering going one up in those. The kit came with 5", I am considering going to 6". This call has to be made before the bump stops and shocks placement or that will be screwed up. Finally these wet noodle rear spring will HAVE to get a traction bar. They wrap going up the driveway. I have lots of pics, I will post when I get a minute. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer Last edited by sschaefer3; 01-07-2009 at 11:09 AM.

01-07-2009, 12:59 PM	#118 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	Ok....... I can make the 14's work in the front. That has 4" of up travel and with the body lift, I was able to get quite a bit of room up there. Rear has 5" of up, I need a compressed value of 19 or less and the 12's will do that. So they will work on the rear. Mike- Call me about the shackles. I think we need to switch them out. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

01-07-2009, 02:06 PM	#119 (permalink)
westy44runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 967	What are the plans for the driveshafts? Any future plans for a crawl box or 4.7s? __________________ '86 Toy Flatbed with a few modifications

01-08-2009, 10:24 AM	#123 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	e mail question was to Brian __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

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