BLKNBLU's SAC - Page 3

BLKNBLU · 11-26-2008, 08:58 PM

OK. Looking for tips on removing the Pitman arm. I already broke Autozones puller.

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sschaefer3 · 11-26-2008, 09:13 PM

Puller from OTC or you need to get a junk yard box where you can get the arm off.

I have had some boxes where I had to use the 20 ton press to get the arm free. Obviously pull the box and 20 ton press it.

If you get one from a yard, go for 89-95 as it is a bigger box. Steering shaft will have to be modified but that is not hard.

See why making it "my" problem is much easier. For you, not me.

BLKNBLU · 11-26-2008, 09:53 PM

Thanks Steve. OTC makes several. Do you mean the conical one?

sschaefer3 · 11-27-2008, 06:00 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OTC-7...spagenameZWDVW

Pitman Arm Puller OTC7311

Also keep in mind we really need to get this through my place before Jan 1 or it will wind up on the back burner during the busy time.

So don't loose the eye of the tiger. Get the thing movable and bring it back. It's a lot of work, I know. A 3rd Gen 4Runner is 100X more.

Elvota · 11-27-2008, 10:08 AM

Just brainstorming.... but what about an angle grinder to the body of the current arm? Might cut a few deep slots and help relieve the pressure. Would be difficult not to go all the way down to the splines... but if you are looking at getting a new box anyway you don't have much to loose.

BLKNBLU · 11-28-2008, 08:40 PM

All scrubbed up and ready for surgery

Last shot of this stuff

A good view of how Steve welded up the hanger ahead of time so that I might start in at my convenience

Something is missing

From the front

Starting to get cleaner

BLKNBLU · 11-28-2008, 08:43 PM

And what's left of the Downey truss as well as the OEM front crossmember.

Elvota · 11-28-2008, 09:03 PM

If anyone ever asks if you wheeled your 4Runner before the SAS...

... that picture is worth a thousand words.

RiNkY · 11-28-2008, 09:33 PM

Nice - I need to wheel mine with IFS a little longer until I break somethin, before I can justify spending the $ going the same route. But I have no doubts it will happen eventually, the more I see this being done the more I wanna be SAS myself

I purchased that Downey IFS truss then regretted that decision 2 months later when I went to install it and it was 1/2" or more to long. Removing my Diff Drop and going for the Sonoran Steel one once I've put some new tires on the old girl.

AzBearFan · 11-29-2008, 07:54 AM

When I did my SAS I had to use the puller to put as much tension as you can on the pitman and give it some healthy whacks with a sledge on the arm. It popped right off after about five whacks.

Bighead · 11-29-2008, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

A 3rd Gen 4Runner is 100X more.

Does this mean you won't SAC my 4Runner?

Djlarroc · 11-29-2008, 12:40 PM

WOW Mike, you really pounded that stuff! Hope everything is going well.

BLKNBLU · 11-29-2008, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzBearFan

When I did my SAS I had to use the puller to put as much tension as you can on the pitman and give it some healthy whacks with a sledge on the arm. It popped right off after about five whacks.

That did it. Thanks. A few more than 5 whacks though. Need a BFH smiley.

shaw_j · 11-29-2008, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLKNBLU

Last shot of this stuff

Not criticizing, just questioning...

Don't most people typically tack the front hanger on before fully welding so that they can check the shackle angle?

Elvota · 11-29-2008, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaw_j

Not criticizing, just questioning...

Don't most people typically tack the front hanger on before fully welding so that they can check the shackle angle?

The welder (Sonoran Steel) has done a few before including mine so he had a reference for where the hanger goes in relation to the SAS kits that are out there.

Mine before SAS:

IMO, one can't really move the hanger to much fore and aft without having to really start fabricating. I think most SAS kits are designed for the hanger to basically line up with the front of the frame and the rear shackle hangers to fit right between the body mount.

BLKNBLU · 11-29-2008, 04:37 PM

And there you go. Thanks Elvota.

Going to post IFS stuff in "For Sale" now.

BLKNBLU · 11-30-2008, 06:12 PM

Well I think I'm getting pretty close to hanging the biotch. Could use some extra hands for that if there is any interest.
I've also gotta come up with a way to get the entire truck up higher.

BTW already sold some of the old stuff. Hunnert dolla, yeah!! (might go straight into a better floorjack)

toyospearo · 11-30-2008, 06:20 PM

Looking really great!
Keep up with the pics!

Elvota · 11-30-2008, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLKNBLU

I've also gotta come up with a way to get the entire truck up higher.

I have some big blocks of wood and some jack stands that were plenty tall enough for me. If you like, you can borrow them when you return the snap ring pliers.

I am sure you realize this already, but once you get the axle in place you can move your jack stands there and off the frame which will give you plenty of height for the rest of the project.

BLKNBLU · 11-30-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvota

I have some big blocks of wood and some jack stands that were plenty tall enough for me. If you like, you can borrow them when you return the snap ring pliers.

I think I'll take you up on that. Will they the blocks fit in the car? That was part of my thinking as well, I'd go get some wood to stack up, but I don't have my truck!!

Then I have to decide if I'll have Home Depot cut it at the store, but that bothers me on a very fundamental basis...

On another note, where is eveyone placing their jackstands? I realized last night when I went to install the springs that mine were right in the line of the springs. So... I moved them behind the rear shackle point on the frame with the floor jack up to the front hanger. I let the floor jack down 1/4 inch below the hanger and the whole contraption made me VERY nervous, so up went the floor jack again.

904_runner · 12-01-2008, 12:47 PM

I think that is what everybody does. Man i need to start mine!

Need pics!

westy44runner · 12-01-2008, 01:50 PM

I put the jack stands either on the front hanger or behind the front spring shackle on the frame.

BLKNBLU · 12-01-2008, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westy44runner

I put the jack stands either on the front hanger or behind the front spring shackle on the frame.

Yeah I ended up with them on the front hanger for a day or two. Behind the shackles seemed iffy to me.

Here is todays progress. I came up with a 3 point stance in regards to jacks/stands. Please talk amongst yourselves and then give me your critiques since I don't really know what I'm doing here.

toyospearo · 12-01-2008, 05:30 PM

NICE NICE
looks great!!

It looks like you have new wheel studs on that SA. Did you buy new ones or did they come in your kit? If you bought new ones can you link me up to where you got em. I need new ones.

Keep up the great work!

BLKNBLU · 12-01-2008, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyospearo

It looks like you have new wheel studs on that SA. Did you buy new ones or did they come in your kit? If you bought new ones can you link me up to where you got em. I need new ones.

I think I got them at Checker. (might be Schucks or Kragen by you) I think I got the Dorman ones though now when I double checked the Checker site they have 15!?! different parts. Also had good luck with Rock Auto.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...,parttype,7680

11-26-2008, 09:13 PM	#52 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	Puller from OTC or you need to get a junk yard box where you can get the arm off. I have had some boxes where I had to use the 20 ton press to get the arm free. Obviously pull the box and 20 ton press it. If you get one from a yard, go for 89-95 as it is a bigger box. Steering shaft will have to be modified but that is not hard. See why making it "my" problem is much easier. For you, not me. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

11-26-2008, 09:53 PM	#53 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	Thanks Steve. OTC makes several. Do you mean the conical one? __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

11-27-2008, 06:00 AM	#54 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OTC-7...spagenameZWDVW Pitman Arm Puller OTC7311 Also keep in mind we really need to get this through my place before Jan 1 or it will wind up on the back burner during the busy time. So don't loose the eye of the tiger. Get the thing movable and bring it back. It's a lot of work, I know. A 3rd Gen 4Runner is 100X more. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

11-27-2008, 10:08 AM	#55 (permalink)
Elvota Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,436	Just brainstorming.... but what about an angle grinder to the body of the current arm? Might cut a few deep slots and help relieve the pressure. Would be difficult not to go all the way down to the splines... but if you are looking at getting a new box anyway you don't have much to loose. __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY visit the sticki chronicles

11-28-2008, 08:40 PM	#56 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	Pics for the curious All scrubbed up and ready for surgery Last shot of this stuff A good view of how Steve welded up the hanger ahead of time so that I might start in at my convenience Something is missing From the front Starting to get cleaner __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

11-28-2008, 08:43 PM	#57 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	And what's left of the Downey truss as well as the OEM front crossmember. __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

11-28-2008, 09:03 PM	#58 (permalink)
Elvota Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,436	If anyone ever asks if you wheeled your 4Runner before the SAS... ... that picture is worth a thousand words. __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY visit the sticki chronicles

11-28-2008, 09:33 PM	#59 (permalink)
RiNkY Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 261	Nice - I need to wheel mine with IFS a little longer until I break somethin, before I can justify spending the $ going the same route. But I have no doubts it will happen eventually, the more I see this being done the more I wanna be SAS myself I purchased that Downey IFS truss then regretted that decision 2 months later when I went to install it and it was 1/2" or more to long. Removing my Diff Drop and going for the Sonoran Steel one once I've put some new tires on the old girl. __________________ -------------------- RiNkY 87 4Runner (22re) 4x4 5spd. 1.5" BJ Spacers, 1" Diff Drop, WARN Manual Hubs, 2" Downey Leaf Springs, Skyjacker Shocks, 6" Wabfab shackles, Rear Shock Mounts & Bump Stops. Downey: Bikini Top & Sliders. Marlin Crawler Rear bumper. Budbuilt Crossmember. Addicted Offroad Front Bumper. 31x10.5's. 05 Xterra Off Road 4x4 6spd.

11-29-2008, 07:54 AM	#60 (permalink)
AzBearFan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 21	When I did my SAS I had to use the puller to put as much tension as you can on the pitman and give it some healthy whacks with a sledge on the arm. It popped right off after about five whacks. __________________ Project Rez-Erection 222 Development, Inc .... Yep, we build it

11-29-2008, 12:40 PM	#62 (permalink)
Djlarroc Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,322	WOW Mike, you really pounded that stuff! Hope everything is going well. __________________ '89 4Runner: 22RE 5spd, 4:10s w/202K, 16x8 w/265-75 MT, Diamond headlights, Aisin hubs, Tortis' custom roll on paint job, Home made bikini, 1" Body Lift, 1.25" greasable lift shackles, TG Sliders, 1.5" BJ spacers, Rust is gone! - SOLD! '00 4Runner: Locked F/R - sold!

11-29-2008, 04:37 PM	#66 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	And there you go. Thanks Elvota. Going to post IFS stuff in "For Sale" now. __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

11-30-2008, 06:12 PM	#67 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	Well I think I'm getting pretty close to hanging the biotch. Could use some extra hands for that if there is any interest. I've also gotta come up with a way to get the entire truck up higher. BTW already sold some of the old stuff. Hunnert dolla, yeah!! (might go straight into a better floorjack) __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

11-30-2008, 06:20 PM	#68 (permalink)
toyospearo Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: way way nor cal Posts: 1,576	Looking really great! Keep up with the pics! __________________ 94 Ext. cab 22re Aussied, 4.88's, SAS,ed, FLATBED, Old Man Emu rear leafs w/TG 5.5" shackles, TG sliders, LC Header, Marlin super HD clutch, 32's- Swamper TSL's- RC rims, Badland Bumper, lifted, lighted, LED'ed, Warned, alternatored (LC High ouput), Hammed, gusseted, trussed, etc, etc... My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/great-w...ck-sas-164531/ My Flatbed build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f88/toyospea...-build-191787/

12-01-2008, 12:47 PM	#71 (permalink)
904_runner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chico, California Posts: 3,781	I think that is what everybody does. Man i need to start mine! Need pics! __________________ Mike 1990 4runner: 3.4 swapped, 5-speed, sas'd, Rear leaf swap, Locked, 5.29's, 39.5" iroks on Beadlocks, Armor'd Longfields, Duals coming soon: My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/904_run...thread-158746/ http://www.treadlightly.org/ http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ery/index.html

12-01-2008, 01:50 PM	#72 (permalink)
westy44runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 967	I put the jack stands either on the front hanger or behind the front spring shackle on the frame. __________________ '86 Toy Flatbed with a few modifications

12-01-2008, 05:30 PM	#74 (permalink)
toyospearo Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: way way nor cal Posts: 1,576	NICE NICE looks great!! It looks like you have new wheel studs on that SA. Did you buy new ones or did they come in your kit? If you bought new ones can you link me up to where you got em. I need new ones. Keep up the great work! __________________ 94 Ext. cab 22re Aussied, 4.88's, SAS,ed, FLATBED, Old Man Emu rear leafs w/TG 5.5" shackles, TG sliders, LC Header, Marlin super HD clutch, 32's- Swamper TSL's- RC rims, Badland Bumper, lifted, lighted, LED'ed, Warned, alternatored (LC High ouput), Hammed, gusseted, trussed, etc, etc... My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/great-w...ck-sas-164531/ My Flatbed build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f88/toyospea...-build-191787/

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