Xbox 360 in the wild

***midiwall*** · 07-19-2005, 10:09 AM

This kid is in SERIOUS doo-doo with his dad...

http://www.360hacker.net/articles/07...n-in-the-wild/

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oly884 · 07-19-2005, 10:47 AM

sucks to be him!

Funrunner · 07-19-2005, 10:48 AM

Heh, now they can't afford to send him to military school cause step dad will lose his job at MS. Maybe Emo boy doesn't know about the NDA.

Tacoma Dude · 07-19-2005, 10:49 AM

I have to agree with some people... his dad should have explained to the kid what kind of consequences there might be with the confidentiality issues.

I generally dislike braggarts but can't really find myself feeling anything but bad for the poor dad who has to explain to his supervisors just how this all happened.

doink · 07-19-2005, 10:50 AM

thats pretty cool.

im pumped about getting one of those things.

lee · 07-19-2005, 10:52 AM

surprised this doesnt happen more often...

GRNTACO · 07-19-2005, 10:53 AM

The Microsoft NDA is a serious piece of paper you sign........................

MTL_4runner · 07-19-2005, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRNTACO

The Microsoft NDA is a serious piece of paper you sign........................

Any NDA is serious.

Too bad the kid actually felt insecure enough to back up his claims.....should have just left em guessing.

jimbo74 · 07-19-2005, 11:36 AM

damn....... thats messed up.... poor stepdad......

***midiwall*** · 07-19-2005, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma Dude

I have to agree with some people... his dad should have explained to the kid what kind of consequences there might be with the confidentiality issues.

I'll bet you he did. The "NEO" (New Employee Orientation) that MS employees go through has a LOT of grilling about things like this.

On top of that, considering the job position his dad is/was in (Regulatory Compliance Manager), it should have been inherent in his day-to-day activities to make sure the kid(s) understand that they can't talk about what dad brings home.

My kids know what they can and can't say, and they understand what happens if they do. I have a 16yo that's been chomping at the bit to tell his buddies a lot of things for the past couple of months. Some of it is now in the press, but _legally_ the meat of the NDA is solid until ship time.... and actually 3 years past ship for some stuff.

This kid's dad is in real trouble. It was just a year(ish) ago that MS fired someone for publishing pictures of Mac G5's on a MS loading dock.

Tacoma Dude · 07-19-2005, 02:31 PM

I didn't know you worked for MS!?
Cool! So what can you tell us?

Do you happen to know this kid's dad? Or heard about what's going on?

***midiwall*** · 07-19-2005, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma Dude

I didn't know you worked for MS!?

I did, I don't now, but I am on-site writing something under contract to make people grin wider about their Xbox 360.

There are a couple of people around YT who work for ... them. I think I'm the only one here doing (Xbox 360) dev work, but there may be other folks that are touching the box on a daily basis.

Quote:

Cool! So what can you tell us?

Everything! It's bright blue with pink polka dots; it's got a built-in CO2 tap (parents will want to hook up a soda mix for the kids, adults can hook up beer); it's got tank treads for chasing away your pesky little brother/sister; it runs on methane for those long bathroom sessions... the list of useability features is enormous.

(in short, I can't even legally confirm or deny anything that has been in the press)

Quote:

Do you happen to know this kid's dad? Or heard about what's going on?

And this is something that DEFINITELY can't be commented on. I can only voice personal opinion, not share any info.

Tacoma Dude · 07-19-2005, 02:56 PM

Wow, they really have a chokehold on their employees don't they?
Then again... they do have an awful lot at stake.

***midiwall*** · 07-19-2005, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma Dude

Then again... they do have an awful lot at stake.

yeup. that's the bottom line of any NDA.

Not to really stretch the topic, but to give you an idea of how nasty an NDA can be, I can't talk about the specifics of the code I wrote for 3Com's VoIP system back in 1997-99 until 2009.

Tacoma Dude · 07-19-2005, 03:07 PM

Oh man... violation of the NDA is probably going to follow the guy around too!
That sucks BIG time.

fiveofeen · 07-19-2005, 03:16 PM

So did the kids dad get in trouble for sure on this one??? man I feel bad for him, how many of you guys used to brag to your friends about something cool your dad did at work... still the internet can burn you, if your really stupid.

GRNTACO · 07-19-2005, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midiwall

Everything! It's bright blue with pink polka dots; it's got a built-in CO2 tap (parents will want to hook up a soda mix for the kids, adults can hook up beer); it's got tank treads for chasing away your pesky little brother/sister; it runs on methane for those long bathroom sessions... the list of useability features is enormous.

You crack me up dood.

GRNTACO · 07-19-2005, 03:44 PM

I just recently signed another Microsoft NDA.............the secret life of Ben.

fiveofeen · 07-19-2005, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRNTACO

I just recently signed another Microsoft NDA.............the secret life of Ben.

dude your so busted.

jimbo74 · 07-19-2005, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRNTACO

I just recently signed another Microsoft NDA.............the secret life of Ben.

are you even allowed to disclose that you signed it?

careful... the feds and MS Police gonna be at your crib soon.....

GRNTACO · 07-19-2005, 04:12 PM

*runs off to hide in Canada*

95ToyotaPU007 · 07-19-2005, 04:21 PM

seen this at anandtech. same responses from forum members.

http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=24574

iGGz · 07-19-2005, 04:46 PM

Dumb dumb dumb kid... why would he feel as though he has to prove himself... hell I wouldnt show anybody and I wouldnt care... I would be one of the only people playin the damn thing...

I feel real bad for the step dad...

4RocRunner92 · 07-19-2005, 05:23 PM

I would DEF beat him so hard it killed his brother. :o

***midiwall*** · 07-19-2005, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimabena74

are you even allowed to disclose that you signed it?

What's funny is that many times you can say that you signed an NDA, but you can't say what you signed it for. The only way that you'd be able to "tell" someone what you were working on is if they started guessing.. When you went mute after a bunch of "no's", then you hit it.

Are you working on Word 18.3?
{no}

Are you working on Windows core?
{no}

Are you working on a new Halo?
{no}

Are you working on Bill's house?
{no}

Are you working on ____?

{insert crickets chriping}

07-19-2005, 10:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,360	I have to agree with some people... his dad should have explained to the kid what kind of consequences there might be with the confidentiality issues. I generally dislike braggarts but can't really find myself feeling anything but bad for the poor dad who has to explain to his supervisors just how this all happened. __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner

07-19-2005, 10:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
doink Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atl. Georgia Posts: 3,078	thats pretty cool. im pumped about getting one of those things. __________________ -m. buy my bands record on iTunes LISTEN TO MY BAND PLEASE

07-19-2005, 10:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
GRNTACO Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: On a trail in WA. Posts: 1,439	The Microsoft NDA is a serious piece of paper you sign........................ __________________ Ben

07-19-2005, 02:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,360	I didn't know you worked for MS!? Cool! So what can you tell us? Do you happen to know this kid's dad? Or heard about what's going on? __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner

07-19-2005, 02:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,360	Wow, they really have a chokehold on their employees don't they? Then again... they do have an awful lot at stake. __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner

07-19-2005, 10:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
oly884 Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,703	sucks to be him!

07-19-2005, 10:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
Funrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,571	Heh, now they can't afford to send him to military school cause step dad will lose his job at MS. Maybe Emo boy doesn't know about the NDA.

07-19-2005, 10:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
lee Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: boston, ma Posts: 6,756	surprised this doesnt happen more often...

07-19-2005, 11:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
jimbo74 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nor*Cal Posts: 6,582	damn....... thats messed up.... poor stepdad......

07-19-2005, 03:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,360	Oh man... violation of the NDA is probably going to follow the guy around too! That sucks BIG time. __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner

07-19-2005, 03:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
fiveofeen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 2,015	So did the kids dad get in trouble for sure on this one??? man I feel bad for him, how many of you guys used to brag to your friends about something cool your dad did at work... still the internet can burn you, if your really stupid. __________________ Tim - www.TGTINT.com 1994 4Runner SR5 - 3.0 5spd - Eibach springs, CB, Hella 500's, M/T's, and a very nice tint job..

07-19-2005, 03:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
GRNTACO Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: On a trail in WA. Posts: 1,439	I just recently signed another Microsoft NDA.............the secret life of Ben. __________________ Ben

07-19-2005, 04:12 PM	#21 (permalink)
GRNTACO Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: On a trail in WA. Posts: 1,439	runs off to hide in Canada __________________ Ben

07-19-2005, 04:21 PM	#22 (permalink)
95ToyotaPU007 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 905	seen this at anandtech. same responses from forum members. http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=24574

07-19-2005, 04:46 PM	#23 (permalink)
iGGz Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Durango, CO Posts: 2,769	Dumb dumb dumb kid... why would he feel as though he has to prove himself... hell I wouldnt show anybody and I wouldnt care... I would be one of the only people playin the damn thing... I feel real bad for the step dad... __________________ 70,XXX miles 1986 Toyota 4Runner

07-19-2005, 05:23 PM	#24 (permalink)
4RocRunner92 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boone, NC Posts: 1,519	I would DEF beat him so hard it killed his brother. :o __________________ Jason A friend of the devil is a friend of mine. 1992 SR5 4RocNC Videos

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