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Old 06-10-2006, 06:21 PM   #1
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Winch or Come Along

So in the August issue of 4wheel and Off Road there's an article about what to bring when off roading. One of the things was a winch recovery kit. The caption said, "We won't even bother mentioning a winch because you <i>know</i> you should have one, so lets skip right to the recovery kit."

I carry a 4 ton come along that I paid about $25 for and I've never had to use it on my vehicle. I could buy a 6,500 lb. winch for $350 from Summit Racing, but should I bother? If I get stuck I want it to be one "Whoops" situations on the back page of 4wheel and Off Road where a winch won't help -- where two dump trucks and a back hoe need to be called in.
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I vote for all 4 myself!

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Old 06-10-2006, 06:32 PM   #3
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Usually some one else right now, but I plan on getting a winch to help out.
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Old 06-10-2006, 06:32 PM   #4
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I could buy a 6,500 lb. winch for $350 from Summit Racing, but should I bother? If I get stuck I want it to be one "Whoops" situations on the back page of 4wheel and Off Road where a winch won't help -- where two dump trucks and a back hoe need to be called in.
I don't think 6,500 lbs is enough. I've bogged my 9k down to a near stall on more than one ocassion. IMHO, if you can get stuck badly enough that it takes that kind of hardware (dump trucks $ back hoes) to pull you out, you really have no business operating a 4X4.
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Old 06-10-2006, 06:42 PM   #5
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I had read somewhere that you should have at least 1.5x the weight of your vehicle for pulling power. I could get a 9,000 lb winch for around $400.

I've seen quite a few reader submissions to the Whoops article where guys had to hire several heavy machines to get 'em out (because the first couple got stuck). I'd hate to pay those towing bills.
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Old 06-10-2006, 07:21 PM   #6
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A winch is not a Come-Along.

If you are going to buy a winch, please buy the best you can. You get what you pay for. Usually anything that appears to be too good to be true!!!

If you want a cheap winch get a Warn M8000. The BEST winch for the money without breaking the bank. The next step is lots of money but lots more performance.

I have a winch, carry a winch kit and would only use my Hi-Lift as a come along if there was a gun pointed to my head.
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Old 06-10-2006, 07:25 PM   #7
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I carry a come along, but I always bring a tow strap, chains, a jack, another person if it is a place one could get stuck, and a golf club. The come along is if I go alone, the tow strap is for if I have another person with me, the chains just in case the tow strap breaks, the jack for the last selection, and a golf club to beat the crap out of my truck for getting stuck.
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I vote for all 4 myself!

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I agree... but since I could only vote one I went with winch
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Bring everything you can.....Winch on the front, come along in case the front wont be useful. chain, straps and all those goodies for whatever else.
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Old 06-11-2006, 03:31 AM   #10
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the chains just in case the tow strap breaks,
Screw that
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Old 07-07-2006, 01:07 PM   #11
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Seriously, do people still use chains for recovery? Have you ever seen what a chain can do? Have you ever seen what a cheap "recovery" strap can do? If not, PM Rob (WATRD) and I'm sure he'll line you out. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but chains are muy malo!
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Come alongs are for stretching fence not recovery IMO.

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I use my XD9000 for recovering others!
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I don't think 6,500 lbs is enough. I've bogged my 9k down to a near stall on more than one ocassion. IMHO, if you can get stuck badly enough that it takes that kind of hardware (dump trucks $ back hoes) to pull you out, you really have no business operating a 4X4.
dosnt a snatch block nearly double the pulling capacity of a winch? make it a bit easier on the motor, though you loose half your cable length at times?

i bought one in preparation to my winch when i get to hawaii
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dosnt a snatch block nearly double the pulling capacity of a winch? make it a bit easier on the motor, though you loose half your cable length at times?

i bought one in preparation to my winch when i get to hawaii
Snatch block theoretically doubles your pulling capacity but also halfs your speed. It all depends on how the snatch block is setup in accordance with the winch, other pull points and the vehicle being recovered.

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Seriously, do people still use chains for recovery? Have you ever seen what a chain can do? Have you ever seen what a cheap "recovery" strap can do? If not, PM Rob (WATRD) and I'm sure he'll line you out. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but chains are muy malo!
I use chains when using a come a long. I don't want something dynamic like a tow strap when winching. If I'm being tugged on by another truck A chain is very dangerous and a strap w/o hooks should be used.

It's kinda like how you use dynamic rope for rappelling, and static rope for climbing. the dynamic gives when you apply a shock load to it. The chain however doesn't. I stopped carrying the chain after somebody I let borrow my come a long screwed up the pulley. It's really really heavy, and that's half the reason why I haven't got a new come a long. I don't want to have to carry that heavy arse chain around.
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:52 AM   #18
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I definately vote for the biggest winch you can get. I've been stuck bad enough that a 9000lb winch wouldn't budge my little yj. A come-along would take some serious effort at a time like that!
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Ideally: a winch is your best bet if you can afford it. Realistically: a buddy is your safest bet. Going alone is not an intelligent idea, if something happens to you or your vehicle, hopefully you are lucky enough to be surrounded by other off roaders in the area or close enough to walk out. If not then you're just SOL.
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dont forget, the max rating on your winch is when there is only one wrap of cable on the drum...

you start getting weaker and weaker as more layers of cable are on.
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