What's Happened to YotaTech? - Page 3

***Corey*** · 04-24-2008, 11:00 AM

Chris, what about our chat room?
Seems no one uses it, and it is a perfect place to communicate instantly.

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Workhorse · 04-24-2008, 11:17 AM

woah! we have a chatroom on YT! w00t

shows how much i know i guess lol

CyMoN · 04-24-2008, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathCougar

Shout box would be....interesting but im worried it would become infested with political jargon from at least one person in particular...not naming any names of course.

If it could be kept clean and free of political drama, it would be great!

well I thought the political threads where not even allowed and seems like it is a troll that has been posting them it is not to hard to see they are trying to just rile people up look at the peoples profiles that post up those threads they might have contributed one or two actual things to the site and the rest is their own drama.

and for all the negative people if you want I have a link to a few free online text/turn based games where you can harass people to no end and no one cares.

**Tofer** · 04-24-2008, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey

Chris, what about our chat room?
Seems no one uses it, and it is a perfect place to communicate instantly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Workhorse

woah! we have a chatroom on YT! w00t

shows how much i know i guess lol

one of the nice difference between shoutbox and chat room. is that 1) its on the main page, so its easy to see. it doesnt get lost in "helpful Links" 2) doesnt "start clean" when a user logs on. the previous conversation is shown regardless of when it happened. it this allows for conversation to happen even if its an 4 hour after thought. it doesnt require everyone to be in the chat room to talk. Let me make some changes to www.pacific-crawlers.com so that the shout box is shown even if your not logged in. right now i have it hidden until you log in so that lurkers dont see whats being said. i'll disable that for a bit so ya'll can see what i am talking about.

Toyvana · 04-24-2008, 12:33 PM

I'm 100% behind Tofer on this.

**Tofer** · 04-24-2008, 12:37 PM

thanks

if you goto www.pacific-crawlers.com you can see how i've implemented the shoutbox. (again, for right now its set so ya;ll can see it with out having to be logged in. normally it is not show. so if you are reading this a few days/weeks from now and cant see it, its cuz i've changed it back) right now its set to shwo the last 20 "shouts" but that number is changeable. i love having the shoutbox on the forum but i also reconize that there is a huge size difference between YT and Pacific-crawlers.... 32000 users vs less than 100.

***Corey*** · 04-24-2008, 12:59 PM

Chris, is this a plug-in available from VB.org?
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/portal.php

What all is involved in installing it?

**Tofer** · 04-24-2008, 01:04 PM

yep. http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showt...light=shoutbox

the lite version is free. there is a pro version (link inside link above) there are alot more moderation controls and features in the pro version. like i said, i'm very tempted to pull the trigger on getting the pro version

not much is required. download, move files to server then you ahve to copy/paste code to the FORUMHOME in the styles manager. i can help you with it if you need.

**DeathCougar** · 04-24-2008, 01:05 PM

The chat is a good idea, but its so far buried in the system, no one knows how to get to it. Then you have the issue of getting enough people on at once, who want to talk about the same thing, to make it worth it.

***Corey*** · 04-24-2008, 01:14 PM

I will have to look into that Chris.

Coug, it is not that hard to get too being up in the Helpful Links dropdown box.
I use to also have it listed where the forums are listed here.
http://www.yotatech.com/forumindex.php

The chat does work good though, as good as any IM program.
To bad it does not have the cool stuff MS Messenger does where pigs fly across your screen or the nudge smile that shakes the whole screen.

**DeathCougar** · 04-24-2008, 01:23 PM

I get that its easy enough to get to, but its hard to find. Who would think to click "helpful links" to find a chat program? even myself, a well seasoned veteran, had trouble finding it when it was moved. And since its not right there to click on the main page, most postings/rants/non-sense end up in Off-topic.

Most people, myself included, are impulse clickers. If we see something that stands out, or is new, or easy, that gets clicked first!

4Mogger · 04-24-2008, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AppleJack

The economy is bad, it's an election year, oh and it's tax season. There's a lot to gripe about.

...and a lot at stake.

***fustercluck*** · 04-24-2008, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey

I will send over my assistant, maybe you can compare samples.
His name is Squatan Leaveit.

...Sounds like a first nations spiritual leader...

*Bad Fuster! No doughnut!!!*

**aviator** · 04-25-2008, 06:57 AM

Bad Fuster! Bad! go sit on the stairs and think about what you said.

**Tofer** · 05-01-2008, 01:27 PM

bump.... I'm going to set Pacific-crawlers.com shout box to private again here soon.

***fustercluck*** · 05-01-2008, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aviator

Bad Fuster! Bad! go sit on the stairs and think about what you said.

dirtoyboy · 05-02-2008, 07:48 AM

Shout boxes are cool but I can see a bunch of people getting in e-fights if there was one here.......just my prediction

Workhorse · 05-02-2008, 08:31 AM

Yea i don't know how well the chat box would work on a large community like YT. It seems like a good idea. The YT chat is barren I have only seen a couple of people in there throughout the days when i have logged in at work. Most of us are pretty busy during the day and we have a chance to log in every once and a while to try to answer a question or ask a question. Making that connection when both the question asker and the answering party are on at the same time is rare. The Shoutbox is nice because it keeps a running tally no matter if your logged in or not, so if somebody asked a question 2 hours ago you would still see it in the log when u did get a chance to login. With the huge community tho the fighting chance is high like DTB said and it could be hard to moderate.

Is there a way to delete peoples shouts by a mod ect? Tofer?

Just brainstorming while at work.. dunno if thats a safe concept or not but eh.. who cares

dirtoyboy · 05-02-2008, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Workhorse

Is there a way to delete peoples shouts by a mod ect? Tofer?

Just brainstorming while at work.. dunno if thats a safe concept or not but eh.. who cares

Sure there is a way to moderate the shoutbox...its just hard to do it 24/7/365....... I see issues between the street guys and the off road guys fighting...other off road forums (i.e. Marlin, Trail gear) dont have that problem on their sites because they are strictly OFF ROAD oriented, unlike this site

Workhorse · 05-02-2008, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtoyboy

Sure there is a way to moderate the shoutbox...its just hard to do it 24/7/365....... I see issues between the street guys and the off road guys fighting...other off road forums (i.e. Marlin, Trail gear) dont have that problem on their sites because they are strictly OFF ROAD oriented, unlike this site

Agreed. That would be a big drawback to the Shoutbox. It's a great idea but, hard to maintain

infiltrator · 05-02-2008, 09:39 AM

Well I have noticed a couple times when I logged on, and saw quite a bit of off-topic rants and raves.
I am not sure that it means that YT is being "ruined" that seems a bit harsh, but I definately know the arguing we could do without. There seems to be a saying "agree to disagree" which seems nicer than totally negating everything that someone says...

I found the chat feature on YT once and not one person was on lol. That surprised me but then again, its a forum..

**aviator** · 05-02-2008, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtoyboy

Sure there is a way to moderate the shoutbox...its just hard to do it 24/7/365....... I see issues between the street guys and the off road guys fighting...other off road forums (i.e. Marlin, Trail gear) dont have that problem on their sites because they are strictly OFF ROAD oriented, unlike this site

Actually FWIW and this is no way the position of the staff in general here at YT but most of the fights I've had to "referee" seem to be with people who like a certain product/mod and those who don't. Around here the "serious off roaders" and "street/mall crawler" groups get along just fine in a general sense.

**Tofer** · 05-02-2008, 11:54 AM

also FWIW. moderating the shout box would be just like moderating the forum. people are going to do things against the rules, you'll have to take action. it happens 24/7. whats teh difference between dropping f-bombs in a thread and doing it in the shoutbox. it will still be logged. i dont see much of a difference between 2 people "e-fighting" in the shoutbox and 2 people e-fighting in a thread where they hit F5 every second until the other guy replys..... well minus their post count.

Toyvana · 05-02-2008, 02:27 PM

I would rather miss an e fight in a shoutbox than log into YT later and see it hanging around in a thread.

Here's how a dispute is settled in my area:

http://www.thetelegraph.com/video/in...tid=1529520113

***Corey*** · 05-28-2008, 05:20 PM

People would be wise to heed this twelve year olds advice.
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...get-along.html

By the way, that kid probably could out wheel me too.
He drives his dad's FJ Cruiser all the time at Moab and other places.
Plenty of vids of him wheeling over there.

04-24-2008, 11:17 AM	#52 (permalink)
Workhorse Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Middle of Nowhere Oregon :) Posts: 218	woah! we have a chatroom on YT! w00t shows how much i know i guess lol __________________ 1993 Toyota 4-Runner v6 3.0 SR5 4x4 (My girlfriend's) 2004 Toyota Tacoma v6 SR5 X-Cab 4x4 (My Truck) Old Truck: Stolen and ravaged :( boy do i miss her.. 1987 Toyota 4x4 (IFS) Standard Cab Pickup 22r: cam/distributor/weber 38/offenhouser c series intake, 4 inch suspension lift, 32's, 4:88's, all the fun stuff :(

04-24-2008, 12:37 PM	#56 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,902	thanks if you goto www.pacific-crawlers.com you can see how i've implemented the shoutbox. (again, for right now its set so ya;ll can see it with out having to be logged in. normally it is not show. so if you are reading this a few days/weeks from now and cant see it, its cuz i've changed it back) right now its set to shwo the last 20 "shouts" but that number is changeable. i love having the shoutbox on the forum but i also reconize that there is a huge size difference between YT and Pacific-crawlers.... 32000 users vs less than 100. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

04-24-2008, 12:59 PM	#57 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	Chris, is this a plug-in available from VB.org? http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/portal.php What all is involved in installing it? __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

04-24-2008, 01:04 PM	#58 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,902	yep. http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showt...light=shoutbox the lite version is free. there is a pro version (link inside link above) there are alot more moderation controls and features in the pro version. like i said, i'm very tempted to pull the trigger on getting the pro version not much is required. download, move files to server then you ahve to copy/paste code to the FORUMHOME in the styles manager. i can help you with it if you need. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :) Last edited by Tofer; 04-24-2008 at 01:06 PM.

04-24-2008, 01:14 PM	#60 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	I will have to look into that Chris. Coug, it is not that hard to get too being up in the Helpful Links dropdown box. I use to also have it listed where the forums are listed here. http://www.yotatech.com/forumindex.php The chat does work good though, as good as any IM program. To bad it does not have the cool stuff MS Messenger does where pigs fly across your screen or the nudge smile that shakes the whole screen. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

04-24-2008, 12:33 PM	#55 (permalink)
Toyvana Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Godfrey, Illinois Posts: 928	I'm 100% behind Tofer on this.

04-25-2008, 06:57 AM	#64 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,469	Bad Fuster! Bad! go sit on the stairs and think about what you said. __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

05-01-2008, 01:27 PM	#65 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,902	bump.... I'm going to set Pacific-crawlers.com shout box to private again here soon. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

05-02-2008, 08:31 AM	#68 (permalink)
Workhorse Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Middle of Nowhere Oregon :) Posts: 218	Yea i don't know how well the chat box would work on a large community like YT. It seems like a good idea. The YT chat is barren I have only seen a couple of people in there throughout the days when i have logged in at work. Most of us are pretty busy during the day and we have a chance to log in every once and a while to try to answer a question or ask a question. Making that connection when both the question asker and the answering party are on at the same time is rare. The Shoutbox is nice because it keeps a running tally no matter if your logged in or not, so if somebody asked a question 2 hours ago you would still see it in the log when u did get a chance to login. With the huge community tho the fighting chance is high like DTB said and it could be hard to moderate. Is there a way to delete peoples shouts by a mod ect? Tofer? Just brainstorming while at work.. dunno if thats a safe concept or not but eh.. who cares __________________ 1993 Toyota 4-Runner v6 3.0 SR5 4x4 (My girlfriend's) 2004 Toyota Tacoma v6 SR5 X-Cab 4x4 (My Truck) Old Truck: Stolen and ravaged :( boy do i miss her.. 1987 Toyota 4x4 (IFS) Standard Cab Pickup 22r: cam/distributor/weber 38/offenhouser c series intake, 4 inch suspension lift, 32's, 4:88's, all the fun stuff :(

05-02-2008, 09:39 AM	#71 (permalink)
infiltrator Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, California Posts: 1,305	Well I have noticed a couple times when I logged on, and saw quite a bit of off-topic rants and raves. I am not sure that it means that YT is being "ruined" that seems a bit harsh, but I definately know the arguing we could do without. There seems to be a saying "agree to disagree" which seems nicer than totally negating everything that someone says... I found the chat feature on YT once and not one person was on lol. That surprised me but then again, its a forum.. __________________ Old Rig: '95 4runner \| White \| ISR \| 193,000mi. \| Totalled.

05-02-2008, 11:54 AM	#73 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,902	also FWIW. moderating the shout box would be just like moderating the forum. people are going to do things against the rules, you'll have to take action. it happens 24/7. whats teh difference between dropping f-bombs in a thread and doing it in the shoutbox. it will still be logged. i dont see much of a difference between 2 people "e-fighting" in the shoutbox and 2 people e-fighting in a thread where they hit F5 every second until the other guy replys..... well minus their post count. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

05-02-2008, 02:27 PM	#74 (permalink)
Toyvana Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Godfrey, Illinois Posts: 928	I would rather miss an e fight in a shoutbox than log into YT later and see it hanging around in a thread. Here's how a dispute is settled in my area: http://www.thetelegraph.com/video/in...tid=1529520113 Last edited by Toyvana; 05-02-2008 at 02:28 PM.

05-28-2008, 05:20 PM	#75 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	People would be wise to heed this twelve year olds advice. http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...get-along.html By the way, that kid probably could out wheel me too. He drives his dad's FJ Cruiser all the time at Moab and other places. Plenty of vids of him wheeling over there. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

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