What's Happened to YotaTech?

nix4x4 · 02-28-2008, 12:22 AM

I've been noticing alot of negativity on YotaTech lately.
I don't know who peed in everybody's Wheaties, but it seems like
half of the threads I view involve some type of argument or rant
completely unrelated to the original topic. Its getting a little out of hand.

Now, before anyone starts on me, yeah I am guilty of this, too.
I said some things in a thread that were probably a little immature and
unneccessary and didn't need to be said. I have since made my peace with
all members involved and will not let it happen again.

I offer a solution to everyone's problem (yes, it is a problem).
If at any time, for any reason, you begin to feel heated or annoyed with
a thread or a member... QUIT POSTING!
Is it really such a big deal to just let it go? You are talking to people
whom you've never met, nor will probably ever come in contact with
in the real world. Chances are they live in completely different
time zone, perhaps even a different country.

Understand that, with all this off-topic arguing thats been going on
within threads is destroying this site. It will render these threads useless
for future use in searches, etc.

I know I'm just another member here, and I have no Administrative
priveledges, nor do I financially support this site in any way. But tell me
I'm wrong here... this has got to stop.

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stormin94 · 02-28-2008, 01:00 AM

I see what ya mean, but have faith, it's been worse......I'm pretty sure.....

People seem to get a little bitchy this time of year. I think because it's been a long winter, and people don't quite know how to act just yet. I think a lot of people were pissed off at the writer's strike, and the lack of anything good on TV, so they come here, and make their own dramas. That's my theory at least.

JohnnyRanger54 · 02-28-2008, 01:34 AM

are you two gonna kiss?? j/k :-)

AppleJack · 02-28-2008, 02:55 AM

The economy is bad, it's an election year, oh and it's tax season. There's a lot to gripe about.

***Corey*** · 02-28-2008, 04:21 AM

It is called ITG, short for Internet Tough Guy syndrome.
YotaTech is mild compared to a lot of other forums out there.

Some of the stuff I have read elsewhere and even here are insane.
Would you talk face to face to someone the same way you do on forums if you are being the ITG?

I think not.
I know it would not fly with me.
Someone would be missing some teeth and they would come out in the

next time they sat down.

Seriously, how hard is it to take a few minutes when composing a message?
Hiding behind a keyboard though gives some people a feeling of being invincible.
Think not, anyone can find your home address with a little research and camp out on your property and do some serious damage if they wanted to.

chimmike · 02-28-2008, 05:30 AM

you suck! I'm gonna kick yer arse for b*tching!

ozziesironmanoffroad · 02-28-2008, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey

It is called ITG, short for Internet Tough Guy syndrome.
YotaTech is mild compared to a lot of other forums out there.

Some of the stuff I have read elsewhere and even here are insane.
Would you talk face to face to someone the same way you do on forums if you are being the ITG?

I think not.
I know it would not fly with me.
Someone would be missing some teeth and they would come out in the

next time they sat down.

Seriously, how hard is it to take a few minutes when composing a message?
Hiding behind a keyboard though gives some people a feeling of being invincible.
Think not, anyone can find your home address with a little research and camp out on your property and do some serious damage if they wanted to.

exactly

***fustercluck*** · 02-28-2008, 07:40 AM

I understand there is a balance between asserting a point and polite behavior. I also recoginze that if someone composes a post that is wildly unprincipled and destructive, inaction is tantamount to endorsement. I refuse to let misleading information rest. I try to do it amicably.

**Lysmachia** · 02-28-2008, 08:01 AM

One more thing:

My suggestions to anyone on YT regarding the political or moral debate issue is this: Go join a political or religious forum if you want to debate moral and or political issues. Yes of course morals and politics may define how we behave on YT but we don't have to debate them here like many have as of late and create a lot of drama.

There all betta'! *smile*

AxleIke · 02-28-2008, 08:17 AM

I don't really understand the original post.

I do agree that there has been a lot of negativity here, but its NOTHING new. The topics are different, but there are always negative Nancy's.

There are always internet tough guys, and always those who pick fights.

Quit worrying about it.

Psalm 112 · 02-28-2008, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lysmachia

One more thing:

My suggestions to anyone on YT regarding the political or moral debate issue is this: Go join a political or religious forum if you want to debate moral and or political issues. Yes of course morals and politics may define how we behave on YT but we don't have to debate them here like many have as of late and create a lot of drama.

There all betta'! *smile*

Great Point! Last night for the first time I found the 'Political' threads area. For the past year and a half (since I first stumbled upon YotaTech) I've thought of YotaTech as a place of solitude, an escape from the world around me, where one can just read/talk about Shocks, Lifts, SASs, Tune-Ups, and whatever. It was like we were all here for a common purpose, to maximize the abilities of our vehicles, and learn from one another. But as we all know things must change. In this kindler/gentler world of tolerance even an AUTOMOTIVE forum can become a place of great debate, dividing us down the middle. I came to YT because I drive a Toyota. I think it's one heck of a vehicle! It's sad to see all the 'OFF-TOPIC' topics that cause opposition among the members. Anyways, again Great Point!

nix4x4 · 02-28-2008, 08:23 AM

THANK YOU, lysmachia..

I have some theories regarding people who always
feel the need to spout off their political/moral beliefs.

We won't get into that here, though.

I'm amazed at the seemingly constant need to express
opinions on these two topics. I am somewhat political,
and VERY moral, and I feel no need to discuss either
of those two parts of my life on an internet 4WD forum.

Tacoclimber · 02-28-2008, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fustercluck

I understand there is a balance between asserting a point and polite behavior. I also recoginze that if someone composes a post that is wildly unprincipled and destructive, inaction is tantamount to endorsement. I refuse to let misleading information rest. I try to do it amicably.

JohnnyRanger54 · 02-28-2008, 08:50 AM

ITG's..... Commonly known as LGS in the real world. (Little guy syndrome)

nix4x4 · 02-28-2008, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fustercluck

I understand there is a balance between asserting a point and polite behavior. I also recoginze that if someone composes a post that is wildly unprincipled and destructive, inaction is tantamount to endorsement. I refuse to let misleading information rest. I try to do it amicably.

Yeah when people get like that with me (at work mostly)
I find that politely telling them which part of you they
can kiss, hidden under big words they don't understand,
and mixed with a touch of sarcasm, usually does the trick.
I find getting down on their level usually leaves you in
an argument and you walk away peeved.

dirtoyboy · 02-28-2008, 09:37 AM

Ive noticed a few different things going on lately.....

For one...the ricers and 4wheelers dont get along...big surprise....

Second, people keep asking for opinions of "mods" and then get butthurt when they are not told," OH my god, thats the coolest thing ever! Which autozone did you get that at?"

Sometimes people dont realize how dumb they are until someone else points it out...there are nice ways to do this...and not so nice..

ok, im done here

-Collier

Yodaforce · 02-28-2008, 09:57 AM

My problem is inflation without an increase in pay! I guess some days it spills over into my relaxing computer time. I can go on and on about financial difficulties, but I'd rather just say.....

Suck one!

Godzilla · 02-28-2008, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtoyboy

Ive noticed a few different things going on lately.....

For one...the ricers and 4wheelers dont get along...big surprise....

Second, people keep asking for opinions of "mods" and then get butthurt when they are not told," OH my god, thats the coolest thing ever! Which autozone did you get that at?"

Sometimes people dont realize how dumb they are until someone else points it out...there are nice ways to do this...and not so nice..

ok, im done here

-Collier

Short of all the political stuff, this is very true.
No one can take criticism about their vehicle modifications anymore. It is disgusting to see someone getting bashed by members because they are reminding someone that the mod might be, and actually is illegal or unsafe.
Not everything deserves, "awesome job" followed by the usual post-whore "X2".

linuxrunner · 02-28-2008, 10:26 AM

I admit that i have not been on here as long as many, but it seems that whenever we have a flair up in political threads or religious threads it spills over into other threads that have nothing at all to do with religion/politics.

And as i have noticed an extra helping of political threads as of late I am not suprised by all of the

that is going around.

If you want to come on Yotatech and post about how much X canidate sucks then please keep it in the thread. Don't follow poeople around to other threads who dissagree with you and disrupt the rest of us.

dirtoyboy · 02-28-2008, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla

Short of all the political stuff, this is very true.
No one can take criticism about their vehicle modifications anymore. It is disgusting to see someone getting bashed by members because they are reminding someone that the mod might be, and actually is illegal or unsafe.
Not everything deserves, "awesome job" followed by the usual post-whore "X2".

x2....thats awesome!

From what I can tell the board is dividing into two factions: those who wheel.....and those who dont

Maybe they should start a sub-forum for street trucks....I thought this was supposed to be an off-road oriented forum...?? yes? no?

people are losing touch with the true intent of the board

AxleIke · 02-28-2008, 11:44 AM

No joke.

I'm fine with different types of trucks. What is even worse is when the OP of a thread is like "cool, no worries, you don't have to like it" and other people who don't even have the mod on their truck get all butthurt.

I harp on stupid stuff regardless of whose crap it is. If you are a webwheeling wiener who is trying to SAS a truck when you have an open open rig on 31's, I'll call you for the idiot you are, and if you put HID's on your truck, whether its a street truck or an offroad rig, I will tell you that your modification is stupid and dangerous.

If people don't want opinions, why post up?

Tacoclimber · 02-28-2008, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxleIke

If people don't want opinions, why post up?

Because my friend, there are far too many people who desperately need the proverbial stroking of their egos to feel happy with themselves.

But I'm with you. Don't post up if you aren't willing to hear some tell you they think your idea is not that great, because it may happen. (And sometimes should.)

spanish-road · 02-28-2008, 01:04 PM

Corey we should have a shot out box, this would control the rants and way off topic posts.

If you don't want the ego to get off don't stroke it, or tease the ego.

***Corey*** · 02-28-2008, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanish-road

Corey we should have a shot out box, this would control the rants and way off topic posts.

If you don't want the ego to get off don't stroke it, or tease the ego.

I have heard of a shout out box, but I am not really familiar with it.

Just like we have the chat installed here again, I hardly use it.
I should, but I am just to busy reading here and two other forums for my FJ Cruiser fix.

spanish-road · 02-28-2008, 01:12 PM

Ask tofer about it, pacific-crawlers.com

02-28-2008, 01:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
stormin94 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA/Sacramento Posts: 3,539	I see what ya mean, but have faith, it's been worse......I'm pretty sure..... People seem to get a little bitchy this time of year. I think because it's been a long winter, and people don't quite know how to act just yet. I think a lot of people were pissed off at the writer's strike, and the lack of anything good on TV, so they come here, and make their own dramas. That's my theory at least. __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4X4 213,000 miles and counting 3.0 V6, 5 speed 10/15 MPG city/hwy(with 33's) Current Mods Headers, 2.5" Flowmaster custom exhaust, K&N FIPK KC Daylighter 100 Watt lights Ranchos x4, 2" Lift Downey coils 33-12.50 M/T's, 1" t-bar lift, 1" body lift Tow pkg w/ lighthookups Silverstar Headlights, Pioneer Deck w/XM Brushguard 250Watt JLAudio 8" W3 Sub Future Mods 12V Aux outlet-400/800peak inverter roof basket/lights Air locker 4.88 gears H.O. Alternator

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JohnnyRanger54 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Grants Pass Oregon Posts: 275	are you two gonna kiss?? j/k :-) __________________ 1988 4Runner, 3.Slow, 5 spd.... not stock.... I have 2 sets of BFG AT's 33x12.5x15 Brand New.. 660 per set.. Oh yeah http://http://www.geocities.com/serioustoys/home.html

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AppleJack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Medford, Oregon Posts: 556	The economy is bad, it's an election year, oh and it's tax season. There's a lot to gripe about. __________________ Fires, Friends, and Books Decree Wisdom, Strength, and Controversy. To believe with certainty, one must begin doubting.

02-28-2008, 04:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,076	It is called ITG, short for Internet Tough Guy syndrome. YotaTech is mild compared to a lot of other forums out there. Some of the stuff I have read elsewhere and even here are insane. Would you talk face to face to someone the same way you do on forums if you are being the ITG? I think not. I know it would not fly with me. Someone would be missing some teeth and they would come out in the next time they sat down. Seriously, how hard is it to take a few minutes when composing a message? Hiding behind a keyboard though gives some people a feeling of being invincible. Think not, anyone can find your home address with a little research and camp out on your property and do some serious damage if they wanted to. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

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*fustercluck* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: right here. Posts: 7,061	I understand there is a balance between asserting a point and polite behavior. I also recoginze that if someone composes a post that is wildly unprincipled and destructive, inaction is tantamount to endorsement. I refuse to let misleading information rest. I try to do it amicably. __________________ War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)

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AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,889	I don't really understand the original post. I do agree that there has been a lot of negativity here, but its NOTHING new. The topics are different, but there are always negative Nancy's. There are always internet tough guys, and always those who pick fights. Quit worrying about it. __________________ 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

02-28-2008, 08:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
nix4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I'm an Ohio boy! Posts: 1,212	THANK YOU, lysmachia.. I have some theories regarding people who always feel the need to spout off their political/moral beliefs. We won't get into that here, though. I'm amazed at the seemingly constant need to express opinions on these two topics. I am somewhat political, and VERY moral, and I feel no need to discuss either of those two parts of my life on an internet 4WD forum. __________________ 1992 Xtra Cab 3.0/5-speed Work in progress..

02-28-2008, 08:50 AM	#14 (permalink)
JohnnyRanger54 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Grants Pass Oregon Posts: 275	ITG's..... Commonly known as LGS in the real world. (Little guy syndrome) __________________ 1988 4Runner, 3.Slow, 5 spd.... not stock.... I have 2 sets of BFG AT's 33x12.5x15 Brand New.. 660 per set.. Oh yeah http://http://www.geocities.com/serioustoys/home.html

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Yodaforce Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West NC Posts: 284	My problem is inflation without an increase in pay! I guess some days it spills over into my relaxing computer time. I can go on and on about financial difficulties, but I'd rather just say..... Suck one! __________________ "Diverse-Customs" Hot Rods, Street Rods, Custom audio and video installation, sheet metal fabrication, tube work, bumpers, lift kits, just about any kind of custom work imaginable! Visit us at Diverse-Customs.com

02-28-2008, 11:44 AM	#21 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,889	No joke. I'm fine with different types of trucks. What is even worse is when the OP of a thread is like "cool, no worries, you don't have to like it" and other people who don't even have the mod on their truck get all butthurt. I harp on stupid stuff regardless of whose crap it is. If you are a webwheeling wiener who is trying to SAS a truck when you have an open open rig on 31's, I'll call you for the idiot you are, and if you put HID's on your truck, whether its a street truck or an offroad rig, I will tell you that your modification is stupid and dangerous. If people don't want opinions, why post up? __________________ 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

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spanish-road Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairbanks Ak Posts: 1,097	Corey we should have a shot out box, this would control the rants and way off topic posts. If you don't want the ego to get off don't stroke it, or tease the ego. __________________ What I don't get is why pay someone to work on your vehicle? 1991 toyota pickup extcab- 22re 31x10.5x15 bone stock except for the RV cam and tires.

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spanish-road Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairbanks Ak Posts: 1,097	Ask tofer about it, pacific-crawlers.com __________________ What I don't get is why pay someone to work on your vehicle? 1991 toyota pickup extcab- 22re 31x10.5x15 bone stock except for the RV cam and tires.

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