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I"ll see this movie. Probably. I only say probably cause I never seem to get to theatres, always busy with something. If not in the theatre, I'll see it on DVD.
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I will see it for sure.The actual director of the f.a.a.(may have that part wrong) the guy who grounded all the planes that day,is playing himself in the movie.He came out of retirement for that job and his 1st day back was 9-11,kinda wierd.
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definitely going to see it. in fact, i think all of america should see it.
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The movie just reeks of Hollywood exploitation of a great tragedy. I will not see it until it's on cable for free.
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I know you well enough (from your posts) to KNOW that YOU know that 'hollywood' wouldn't touch this unless there was profit in it for them. Don't you think that this scenario is known well enough around the world already? Did hollywood really have to get involved? What do they [hollywood] have to contribute, other than drama (that equals $$ at the box office)? Think about it.. We know the facts. What do they have to add? Besides hollywood spin. Think about that, before you spend your <<<edited>>> $$$ at the theater.
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I heard some of the procedes are going to the families,don't know how much or if it's even true though.
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of course hollywood will make money on the movie. but the movie did have the full endorsement of the family members of UA93.
the only thing that makes me cringe at this point is if there is...and trying not to be political here...but my fear is that there will be your typical hollywood "point of view" and corresponding cheap shots within the dialogue of the movie. but from what i've read so far, this is a factual movie that focuses on what happened when these americans realized that their fate was and what they did about it bob |
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Hopefully it doesn't get turned into a love story like Titanic and pearl harbor.
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Joe Morganstern of the Wall Street Journal has a glowing review this morning. He's pretty tough on movies, so I'm going to see it now.
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Sure Hollywood will make money on this movie, I won't argue with some one on that. Whether they should make money off of this issue makes me a bit uneasy. However, after hearing Glenn Beck (talk show host) talk about it, it's not your typical hollywood movie. All I can say as to what his reaction to the movie was that he was welling up on air. He said that it was the most moving film he's ever seen. This movie isn't the same as the typical Hollywood film because it's not ment to be entertainment. It's created to show how the men and women of flight 93 gave THEIR lives to save countless other people.
It also serves to remind people of what 9/11 was, and what it did to each of us as a person. This may be me, but I've noticed that people have changed. After 9/11 we were all together. Now, I even so much as bring up terrorism, 9/11, etc. and they wig out on me. We have ILLEGAL immigants protesting in our streets. We've got one crazy mofo in Iran, we've even got people like this in our own country. What happened? 9/11 changed my life, it made me realize that NO MATTER what you do, there will be people that want you dead. It showed me that, yeah, the USA isn't the most liked nation in the world, but ya know what? I live here, and I'm damn proud of it. And if that fight comes to my front door, you can bet that I'm going to fight with every last ounce of me. Think of me what you will, think of this movie as what you will, but no one can or will convince me that I shouldn't go see this movie, because there are times when I need to remember as well.
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Never heard of it until this thread. Sounds like it will be very good.
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Just my $.02:
I've seen and read a few reviews of this movie, and I'm led to believe that it will be very worthwhile to see it. The one thing that irks the hell out of me is that EVERY review I've encountered has talked about how the victims of flight 93 TRIED to thwart the terrorists. Tried, hell -- THEY SUCCEEDED!!! Granted, they did not survive it, but they succeeded in preventing the terrorists from acheiving their goals! No one knows exactly how they will react to dire situations like the hi-jacking of 93, but trying to put myself in their shoes (as much as I can), I think that I would take the perspective that, under those circumstances, I am going to die. With that frame of mind, anything that I attempt to do to change it can only result in an equal, or (hopefully) better outcome than that. So, the heros of flight 93 had a measured success, but at least they met death on their terms, instead of the terrorists'. God bless them and their families! |
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I will not see this movie, for the above stated reasons that were asked not to be shared in this thread.
Is it disgusting? You bet. Is it insensitive? Most definetly Am I suprised, shocked, or ourtraged? Of course not, its what's expected these days. Most of those folks would sell their own grandmother into slavery overseas before risk losing a profit.
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Nobody's putting a gun to your heads to see but I understand people's objections but at least we still have choices in our free land.
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I'm kinda in the middle on this one. I do think that the memory of 9.11 needs to be refreshed once in a while, to remind the American people of what happened. (And No, I don't blindly follow the Bush admin.) The account of UA93 was a powerful story of Americans refusing to sit and die without trying to do something. Hollywood may screw this up (ok, probably will screw this up) but the fact that they asked the permission of the families says a lot. This is a powderkeg issue, no doubt. I understand why people would not want to see it, but at the same time, I think that the passion that most Americans had in the days that followed 9.11 has been lost and forgotten in the haze of bueracracy and conspiracy theories.
That being said, even though I don't watch R rated movies, I will probably see this one.
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ive seen a few of the re-enactment shows to know the passengers were heros in their actions. "lets roll"
not boycotting the movie or anything, but will wait to see it for free...if at all.
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Yes, and i should have mentioned in my previous post.
While i don't like it, i absolutely support peoples right to make movies like this. It is amazing that we can live in a country with this much freedom. Absolutely people should be able to make movies about whatever they want. God bless america
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i am deff going to see it. every time i go to pittburgh i stop and see the memorial in somerset county...worth going to pay your respects..
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This was my biggest fear also, but from all the reviews I read and heard, they didn't do this. The didn't key on the phrase "let's roll" like all the idiots after the fact did, and they also didn't focus on people as individuals. It assumes nothing about most of the characters, and it didn't add any fluff to the people to try and get you to like or hate them. I don't know if I'll see it or not, I don't really see the point, because I know most of the details of the event. The only thing that will probably get me to see it, is the actions and happenings around air traffic control. At the time, the head guy really had to have some balls to ground all U.S. Air traffic. It seems obvious now, but at the time, they didn't know what was going on. With our love for making corporations happy, it took a lot to make a decision that almost destroyed all the big Air carriers.
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It's 5% or 10% of the first THREE days and no more after that. I think whomever wants to see it should go this weekend. I will go see it, I am trying for a midnight showing tonight, but I am a little tired after a BBQ.
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Just got back from it. Definitely worth seeing IMHO.
I don't know what to say about it other than you just have to see it for yourself. It's just that. |
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Hollywood capitalizing on a historic event/tragedy is nothing new. What makes this one somewhat unusual is the rapidness of production compared to previous Hollywood dramatizations of historic tragedies/events.
For example Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan. I personally believe these movies to be important in terms of preservinng a nation's collective memory and providing newer generationns with a frame of historical reference. The difference is for most of us we were not personally touched or involved in the atrocities of WWII. I haven't decided whether or not I will see the movie. But one thing I do know is that I lived through the events of 9/11 and don't need a Hollywood dramatization to remind me of the sheer horror of it. On the other hand I have no first hand knowledge of concentration camps or what our soldiers endured on the beaches of Normandy and films like SPR and Schindler's List, along with books, documentaries, etc have provided me some insight into those events/atrocities. For me personally the wounds are still very fresh from 9/11. That doesn't mean we should ignore those feelings we felt that day and try and forget about it, but again most of us don't need a reminder of how awful those events were. Is the nation fragementated and have we lost some of the spirit that once galvanized us together in the weeks/months after 9/11? To a certain extent yes. Will a Hollywood production recapture that spirit? Certainly not. Our current "conflict/situation" is much different than something like WWII. It is much more complex than Japan & Germany ever was, no matter how the war machine wants to spin our current conflict.
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I REALLY suggest that everyone go see this movie.
It shows the CNN feed when the second plane hit the WTC. That was really hard for me because watching that plane hit the second tower was the very first thing I saw when I woke up on 9/11. I'm not going to lie, that movie really tore me up, it was definitely something that was easy to take in. However, those brave souls of flight 93 did the most act by giving their lives to save the lives of others. |
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I'm not sure I could contain my rage were I to see it
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