An Unfortunate Incident

amusement · 09-12-2006, 11:58 AM

Today, two dogs entered my yard. They had been chased into the yard be a neighbor. My cat was laying on the drive way. Taking her morning sun bath sun.

The two dogs attacked her causing severe injuries. The neighbor who had chased the dogs into the yard had his hands and yelled. The dogs fled.

My cat crawled under a car, severely injured and in shock.

This is when I was notified. I interviewed both neighbors before
deciding on the fate of the cat. Neither neighbor wanted to involve the police. I am not angry, just disappointed (again).

Both neighbors asked me how I was going to kill my cat. I believe one of them was trying to be helpful. The other neighbor offered the use of a .22 pistol. I declined because of the law against discharging firearms in the city.

Being majority pissed off about arguing about the cost of the vet bills with the offending neighbor. I described, in detail, how that cat was going to be euthenized...every aspect, until their faces turned pale with green tint. Then I walked away. Neighbor apologized as I was leaving.

I finished what the dogs started. The cat's body lies amongst the backyard roses.

Today, could have started off better, much better.

She was a good cat. Friendly to all. Just two days ago, a couple of girls road their bikes to see her and pet her. She was found, as a kitten hung, by the neck in a highschool. I took her in and nursed to her health. She was 15 years old.

I have a security video of the dogs but, decline to watch it. I am afraid that what restraint built up will erode.:cry:

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bamachem · 09-12-2006, 12:01 PM

are the dogs running loose in the area? if you have a law against discharging a firearm, then there's a leash law for dogs. have that law enforced and have the dogs picked up. notify their owners what the dogs did. if you see the dogs again, then make sure they see the same ending as your cat.

Intrepid · 09-12-2006, 12:04 PM

I could not euthanize a cat. I would have taken it to the vet and let him do what he could, send the bill to the neighbor. Why should they get off?

oly884 · 09-12-2006, 12:14 PM

If it were my cat, those dogs would have a nice meeting with Mr. 10mm.

Sorry for your loss, and that you cannot discharge a firearm in the city limits. You show much more strenght than I do, because I would hunt those dogs.

amusement · 09-12-2006, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intrepid

I could not euthanize a cat. I would have taken it to the vet and let him do what he could, send the bill to the neighbor. Why should they get off?

I understand your point of view. Acted to end the suffering.

If I was there during the attack ... I would have killed both dogs with my "bare freak'in hands" and dragged their bloody bodies to their (former) owner. No gun necessary. After mendeding my wounds suffered in the battle and called the cops.

The previous paragraph is nothing more than mental masterbation because, I wasn't their when it happened. "Taking on" dogs is like a knife fight.

The two dogs and the owner are wondering what's going to happen. They know of the video. They know how I feel and what I had to do. Their anxiety has already turned to fear. Let them stew in fear for a while. This version of self induced terror might serve me better than sending "johnny law" after them
and hearing "it's a civil matter". Which has been my experience.

EWAYota · 09-12-2006, 12:41 PM

10 years ago, while rollerblading in my neighborhood, one of the kids who lived by me, slowly walked over to me and told me that my cat was getting attacked by a couple of dogs in the back yard. I managed to run with the blades on, jump a fence and get to the back yard to discover my cat on her back with 3 English Shepards and 1 Australian Shepard ontop of her. I kicked the dogs back, and grabbed my cat.
She's all black with some white spots, but her whole belly is white. At this time, there was no white, just all red. I was so afraid to touch her stomach in fear of feeling gashes deep into her. We quickly took her in and started checking for damage. Miracoulously she wasn't injured at all, but was able to get the best of the 4 dogs.

The next day, my neighbor behind me watched as 2 of the dogs got into her back yard and attacked her cat. Within seconds, it was over.

I'm sorry to hear what happened. I couldn't have done what you did. Even though, at 15, the years are limited and the cost may not be worth keeping her around for a year or a few I would have taken her in and charged the owners of the dogs with the bills knowing I did everything I could to give her a chance.

4mydogs · 09-12-2006, 01:21 PM

That's horrible. I'm really sorry for your loss.

I detest irresponsible pet owners.

amusement · 09-12-2006, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EWAYota

...I'm sorry to hear what happened. I couldn't have done what you did. Even though, at 15, the years are limited and the cost may not be worth keeping her around for a year or a few I would have taken her in and charged the owners of the dogs with the bills knowing I did everything I could to give her a chance.

The cat was in great physical and mental health before today. She would have easly lived many more years.

Her rear left leg was broken. Ribs broken and one exposed above the skin. Her institines were exposed. Her jaw was broken. Her back also appear to sustain physical trauma. Damnit do I need to dig her up and get a picture for you.

Taking her to the vet would have required more time and all that time she would have been suffering. Is that what you want...an animal to suffer. Probably not. I am not trying to take this out on you personally. You just hit a spot where the owners feelings are more important than the animals.
Trust me, brother, if I could have saved her I would have.

CJM · 09-12-2006, 01:29 PM

I woulda put the cat down with a .22, ordinances are bs no one would even know what they heard.

04 Rocko Taco · 09-12-2006, 01:49 PM

I would have dealt with the cat however you did...Im sure it wasn't bad, I would have taken the dogs down with the .22 because (and I qoute) ordinances are bs no one would even know what they heard.

fireteacher · 09-12-2006, 02:12 PM

you did the right thing. i dont think they mean ill will about taking the cat to the vet, just didnt quite grasp the severity of the injuries.

very sorry for your loss

mdh · 09-12-2006, 02:13 PM

Just remember that dogs love to eat rat bait. You probably don't want a anti-coagulant rat bait because they take a long time and if cought within about a week can be easily reversed. Find a bait with Bromethalin ( a neurotoxin) or Cholecalciferol. I love all animals but if some loose dogs attacked any of my animals I would get either the owners or the dogs.

Bob_98SR5 · 09-12-2006, 02:18 PM

amusement,

im absolutely livid right now after reading this story. i am terribly sorry to hear about your cat.

so im not clear: you know whose dogs attacked your cat? and you interviewed that neighbor? why did they chase their own dog into your yard? i just dont understand the circumstances.

bob

kmcc78240 · 09-12-2006, 02:32 PM

Sorry to hear that, you did the right think putting her down. I would want to rip the those owners a new one though.

snap-on · 09-12-2006, 02:41 PM

Id find the dogs and "dissappear" them.... 'in loving memory of my lost "family"'

Paul H. · 09-12-2006, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdh

Just remember that dogs love to eat rat bait. You probably don't want a anti-coagulant rat bait because they take a long time and if cought within about a week can be easily reversed. Find a bait with Bromethalin ( a neurotoxin) or Cholecalciferol. I love all animals but if some loose dogs attacked any of my animals I would get either the owners or the dogs.

Although I feel real bad for you and your cat, don't blame the dogs. They are just doing what all dogs do. Cats and dogs are natural enemies. The owners are the ones at fault here. They did not control their animals like they should. I would press charges against them and then bring a civil lawsuit against them. There are 3 owners who let their dogs run around loose on my street, there are also several cats that run loose too. I know its only a matter of time before something like this will happen here.
Sorry for your loss Amusement. You did the right thing with your cat.

BT17R · 09-12-2006, 02:48 PM

So sorry for your loss.

At the very least, the dog owners are obligated to pay all of your related expenses.

At most, if county Animal Control is notified, the dogs will be classified some degree (of 4/5 I think) of "dangerous" that will force the owners either restrain them securely or possibly put them down depending on the dog's history.

iruny4wd · 09-12-2006, 03:06 PM

Yea I hate people that just let their dogs run around wild. One day my neighbor was at my house talking with us and her dog came running into our yard and grabbed my cat and started mauling it, but get this, THE OWNER DIDN'T EVEN CALL IT OFF!!! Pissed me off beyond all belief and if she wouldn't have been a woman I would've punched her in the face. Every dog that comes on my property now deals with a 30-06, and if the neighbors wanna bitch me about it, they can deal with it too.

habanero · 09-12-2006, 03:09 PM

My sister's cat was ripped literally apart by a pair of dogs in front of her daughter. Ain't nothin' gonna get that out of her mind. Don't watch your tape. It wasn't the dogs' first animal, they've also killed a small dog that we know of. She called police, being fearful that the violence would proceed onto small peoples, and animal control took the dogs away. Turned out it wasn't the first complaint on them.

It sounds like you're dealing with things the best you can, I am so very sorry to hear about your kitty.

You might find out how your city handles problem dogs....here the dog gets a 'record' and must be neutered and taken to obedience school. Another complaint and the dog is done for. A two strikes and they're out sort of deal. I'm sure each city is different. If your neighbor's dogs have been loose in the past it would be something to consider for the safety of the rest of the neighborhood.

EWAYota · 09-12-2006, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amusement

The cat was in great physical and mental health before today. She would have easly lived many more years.

Her rear left leg was broken. Ribs broken and one exposed above the skin. Her institines were exposed. Her jaw was broken. Her back also appear to sustain physical trauma. Damnit do I need to dig her up and get a picture for you.

Taking her to the vet would have required more time and all that time she would have been suffering. Is that what you want...an animal to suffer. Probably not.
Trust me, brother, if I could have saved her I would have.

I was unaware of the level of trauma caused, and your right, I wouldn't want a animal to suffer at all. There comes a point in a pets life when it does more harm than good to try and hold on to them because your not ready to let them go. And your right, it had to be done in this situation. If I were in that position, I would have probably done the same thing, though I'm not one who could personally end the life of a pet of mine with my own hands, I would need to have someone else do it with me not looking.

Again, sorry for your loss, and I didn't mean to make it sound like you didn't do what you could, just wasn't aware of how hurt she was.

**waskillywabbit** · 09-12-2006, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iruny4wd

Every dog that comes on my property now deals with a 30-06, and if the neighbors wanna bitch me about it, they can deal with it too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by snap-on

Id find the dogs and "dissappear" them.... 'in loving memory of my lost "family"'

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdh

Just remember that dogs love to eat rat bait. You probably don't want a anti-coagulant rat bait because they take a long time and if cought within about a week can be easily reversed. Find a bait with Bromethalin ( a neurotoxin) or Cholecalciferol. I love all animals but if some loose dogs attacked any of my animals I would get either the owners or the dogs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 04 Rocko Taco

I would have taken the dogs down with the .22 because (and I qoute) ordinances are bs no one would even know what they heard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul H.

Although I feel real bad for you and your cat, don't blame the dogs. They are just doing what all dogs do. Cats and dogs are natural enemies. The owners are the ones at fault here. They did not control their animals like they should. I would press charges against them and then bring a civil lawsuit against them. There are 3 owners who let their dogs run around loose on my street, there are also several cats that run loose too. I know its only a matter of time before something like this will happen here.

Sorry for your loss Amusement. You did the right thing with your cat.

:bigclap:

SC4Runner · 09-12-2006, 06:14 PM

Poor Kitty-Cat!

I love cats, and that is a horrible thing to have happened. My deepest feelings for you sir.

Flygtenstein · 09-12-2006, 07:04 PM

Dude, you must be working off some serious karma.

Good on ya for doing what needed to be done with the kitty.

I agree on wondering who the dogs belonged to, still a little sketch on that.

For those who advocate shooting the dogs, WTF. I will not quote Ghandi, but wantonly killing the dogs is not the "reasonable" thing to do.

My folks live in the country. The driveway is a half mile. Anyone who comes to the house is there on purpose. The neighbors dog is a real turd. He attacked me mowing our ditches when I was on the tractor. I kicked him a couple times to get him away, told the neighbors and now they know misplaced critters disappear, that is the rule of the country.

The owners are responsible for the dogs. If they were not doing their part in the city, they need to be told and punished, not by killing the dogs for being dogs though. If they mess with kids or you that is a problem.

crackerjack · 09-12-2006, 07:08 PM

Life in the big city... The rules are different out in the country. It's just understood that if my dog or someone else's starts killing cats, pet rabbits, baby pigs, chickens its gonna be shoot! Because once an animal tastes blood it won't stop. I understand things aren't the same in town, but those dogs "well" KILL AGAIN AND NEXT TIME IT MAY BE A BABY...

Bluedog · 09-12-2006, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul H.

Although I feel real bad for you and your cat, don't blame the dogs. They are just doing what all dogs do. Cats and dogs are natural enemies. The owners are the ones at fault here. They did not control their animals like they should. I would press charges against them and then bring a civil lawsuit against them. There are 3 owners who let their dogs run around loose on my street, there are also several cats that run loose too. I know its only a matter of time before something like this will happen here.
Sorry for your loss Amusement. You did the right thing with your cat.

I have put down 2 cats in my past It's the hardest thing I have had to do. We currently have 2 dogs and 3 cats in our house. You should focus your anger on the owners of the dogs not the the dogs. Money won't make you feel better, but if you can get some out of the owners you can donate it to an animal shelter and help many more.

Sorry for your loss.

B.

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EWAYota Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Richland, Washington Posts: 4,597	10 years ago, while rollerblading in my neighborhood, one of the kids who lived by me, slowly walked over to me and told me that my cat was getting attacked by a couple of dogs in the back yard. I managed to run with the blades on, jump a fence and get to the back yard to discover my cat on her back with 3 English Shepards and 1 Australian Shepard ontop of her. I kicked the dogs back, and grabbed my cat. She's all black with some white spots, but her whole belly is white. At this time, there was no white, just all red. I was so afraid to touch her stomach in fear of feeling gashes deep into her. We quickly took her in and started checking for damage. Miracoulously she wasn't injured at all, but was able to get the best of the 4 dogs. The next day, my neighbor behind me watched as 2 of the dogs got into her back yard and attacked her cat. Within seconds, it was over. I'm sorry to hear what happened. I couldn't have done what you did. Even though, at 15, the years are limited and the cost may not be worth keeping her around for a year or a few I would have taken her in and charged the owners of the dogs with the bills knowing I did everything I could to give her a chance. __________________ DJ 1994 Pickup 22RE, Engnbldr 261 cam, 5 speed. Tires that go around and around... Preping for SAS...... Originally Posted By Fustercluck "Proof that Gangus did not spontaneously generate....he has relatives." Originally Posted By Tacoclimber "My two year old better get a job, soon..." Reply Posted By Oly884 "I hear coal mining is a great career." Myspace

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bamachem Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 0	are the dogs running loose in the area? if you have a law against discharging a firearm, then there's a leash law for dogs. have that law enforced and have the dogs picked up. notify their owners what the dogs did. if you see the dogs again, then make sure they see the same ending as your cat.

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oly884 Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,703	If it were my cat, those dogs would have a nice meeting with Mr. 10mm. Sorry for your loss, and that you cannot discharge a firearm in the city limits. You show much more strenght than I do, because I would hunt those dogs.

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CJM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Central NJ Posts: 4,561	I woulda put the cat down with a .22, ordinances are bs no one would even know what they heard.

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mdh Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 138	Just remember that dogs love to eat rat bait. You probably don't want a anti-coagulant rat bait because they take a long time and if cought within about a week can be easily reversed. Find a bait with Bromethalin ( a neurotoxin) or Cholecalciferol. I love all animals but if some loose dogs attacked any of my animals I would get either the owners or the dogs.

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Bob_98SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,092	amusement, im absolutely livid right now after reading this story. i am terribly sorry to hear about your cat. so im not clear: you know whose dogs attacked your cat? and you interviewed that neighbor? why did they chase their own dog into your yard? i just dont understand the circumstances. bob

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BT17R Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Da Gorge, Oregon Posts: 5,673	So sorry for your loss. At the very least, the dog owners are obligated to pay all of your related expenses. At most, if county Animal Control is notified, the dogs will be classified some degree (of 4/5 I think) of "dangerous" that will force the owners either restrain them securely or possibly put them down depending on the dog's history. __________________ '07 FJ Cruiser TRD SE 6M/T

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iruny4wd Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 269	Yea I hate people that just let their dogs run around wild. One day my neighbor was at my house talking with us and her dog came running into our yard and grabbed my cat and started mauling it, but get this, THE OWNER DIDN'T EVEN CALL IT OFF!!! Pissed me off beyond all belief and if she wouldn't have been a woman I would've punched her in the face. Every dog that comes on my property now deals with a 30-06, and if the neighbors wanna bitch me about it, they can deal with it too. __________________ Alma Airdales Arkansas Razorbacks You call me showering with a gun being "paranoid", I call it being prepared.

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SC4Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 5th Gen San Diegan, California Posts: 5,892	Poor Kitty-Cat! I love cats, and that is a horrible thing to have happened. My deepest feelings for you sir. __________________ 1996 4x4 3.4L 4Runner on 35's - 6" of lift, MTR's, E-locked, ARB Tacoma Bumper, Sliders and a cut off tail pipe. 1966 FJ40 - SOA with stock springs, stock 1F motor, and a smelly tailpipe.

09-12-2006, 07:04 PM	#23 (permalink)
Flygtenstein Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 4,246	Dude, you must be working off some serious karma. Good on ya for doing what needed to be done with the kitty. I agree on wondering who the dogs belonged to, still a little sketch on that. For those who advocate shooting the dogs, WTF. I will not quote Ghandi, but wantonly killing the dogs is not the "reasonable" thing to do. My folks live in the country. The driveway is a half mile. Anyone who comes to the house is there on purpose. The neighbors dog is a real turd. He attacked me mowing our ditches when I was on the tractor. I kicked him a couple times to get him away, told the neighbors and now they know misplaced critters disappear, that is the rule of the country. The owners are responsible for the dogs. If they were not doing their part in the city, they need to be told and punished, not by killing the dogs for being dogs though. If they mess with kids or you that is a problem. __________________ Ease on down the road.

09-12-2006, 07:08 PM	#24 (permalink)
crackerjack Contributing Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: cookeville tn. Posts: 616	Life in the big city... The rules are different out in the country. It's just understood that if my dog or someone else's starts killing cats, pet rabbits, baby pigs, chickens its gonna be shoot! Because once an animal tastes blood it won't stop. I understand things aren't the same in town, but those dogs "well" KILL AGAIN AND NEXT TIME IT MAY BE A BABY...

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