Time for a new toy

MvCrash · 09-19-2004, 04:20 AM

Greetings,
Since I was younger and an aspiring motor head I always wanted a brand new Corvette. In the next several months I am going to be looking around and deciding what I want and then purchase a Corvette. As we all know, prices of cars drop alot when purchased new and most times if your patient and look around you can get a great deal on a 2 year old car and save a bunch of money.
The new C6 is really nice and cost around 52,000 the way I want it(Convertible). I can probably get a 2-3 yr old C5 for under 30,000. I would only buy one that had low miles and was well taken care of.

Any thoughts would help since I am vacillating between the old and the new. I also really liked the Miata another member purchased but its not a "vette."

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Paul H. · 09-19-2004, 08:10 AM

I cannot believe that they lose so much value in just 2 years.

It wasn't an option but I would really say, save your money.If you really have to have a second car, buy something more practical. Corvette= high insurance & high maintanance.

EDGE · 09-19-2004, 09:03 AM

Buy new unless you found 1 in extremely good low mileage condition but then those are usually kept by the owners cause why loose money on selling such a mint car, but if I was you I would also look at preowned 911 Turbos, 50k can buy a lot but you could remorgage the house with what performance upgrades cost, Corvette is best dollar for performance value on the market and small things increase power the most, just ask any Corvette guys, advance the timing just gave you another 100hp, silly stuff like that.

If you can do it buy new, it's yours and you know from the get go whats the deal plus if your gonna keep it don't worry about the value, mod the hell out of it and take it to the track and find a corvette club, go with a brand new C6 and know that that basic body style will be around for 5-7 years no doubt.

The Insurance should not be to bad, I priced 80k cars and for full covererage was an additional 400 a year, my record is clean, remember it's a second car in your name how the hex can you drive both at once, and if you live in snowy areas then you can even insure it for 6 months.

You only live once

MvCrash · 09-19-2004, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul H.

I cannot believe that they lose so much value in just 2 years.

It wasn't an option but I would really say, save your money.If you really have to have a second car, buy something more practical. Corvette= high insurance & high maintanance.

Greetings,
My Tacoma is my second car. I know about the insurance, also you are required to use Premium Gas but like the TACO, I won't drive it much. Just on nice days with the top down.

BT17R · 09-19-2004, 01:53 PM

I think you'll regret not waiting for the 2006 Z06. That'll give others a year to shake down the semi-new design while the finishing touches are put on the 500+ hp engine and lightweight frame and body. The Z06's hold value better and I thought I read that it'll be available for the first time in both coupe and convertible, but I might be wrong about that. There are some very knowledgeable enthusiasts over at www.corvetteforum.com, and some good deals on used cars with full histories.

fpkelly · 09-19-2004, 02:19 PM

I'll agree with waiting a year on the C6, let them shake out the bugs. Only problem with used Vettes is you dont know what was done to them before. Someone like me could have gotten in it and dumped the clutch a couple times just to see how much smoke it'd make.

data · 09-19-2004, 02:20 PM

I drove a 2003 vette not too long ago and I wasn't the bit impressed. It seriously didn't seem that fast. Don't get me wrong though, it would get up and go, but I've drove way faster cars that cost way less......

But if I had my mind set on corvette, I'd wait to get a new one.

fpkelly · 09-19-2004, 02:25 PM

Either you dont know how to drive or you were driving a Chevette. 0-60 in 4.8 is slow? 350Z 0-60 is 5.5, Evo is 4.8. Cant think of anything that costs WAY less thats faster than that.

X-AWDriver · 09-19-2004, 02:45 PM

Better clutch in the EVO or an STi will hit under 4.5 secs 0-60 but then again that isn't stock and those cars don't look as cool as a new C6 does sitting parked. I personally did 4.3 secs to 60 in my Eclipse and had a half second on a Z06 in the 1/4 up here in Denver but I'd take the Vette anyday of course.

Wait a year and buy a slightly used C6 (5000 miles or less) and save a few thousand and I think you'll be happy.

TACOMANATOR · 09-19-2004, 02:52 PM

I would wait for the new Z06. My brother in law has an 03 and that thing is freakin fast. The 06 will have almost 100 ponies more. screw the convertible get the Z06.

RED 85 · 09-19-2004, 05:30 PM

This is what you should get.
Corvette

X-AWDriver · 09-20-2004, 12:44 AM

Was that a Lingenfelter turbo Vette?

SLC Punk · 09-20-2004, 08:04 AM

My vote is to buy a new C6.

I bought my All-Trac used, and will never buy a used sports car again!

RED 85 · 09-20-2004, 08:11 AM

"Was that a Lingenfelter turbo Vette?"

Yup!!!!!

roger · 09-20-2004, 12:58 PM

I would either buy a used C5 (maybe a Z06 if you want C6-like performance) or wait and buy a used C6.

I just can't see myself ever buying a brand new car. They're a ripoff IMHO, and as reliable as today's cars are there's no reason to take that depreciation hit.

MvCrash · 09-20-2004, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BT17R

I think you'll regret not waiting for the 2006 Z06. That'll give others a year to shake down the semi-new design while the finishing touches are put on the 500+ hp engine and lightweight frame and body. The Z06's hold value better and I thought I read that it'll be available for the first time in both coupe and convertible, but I might be wrong about that. There are some very knowledgeable enthusiasts over at www.corvetteforum.com, and some good deals on used cars with full histories.

Greetings,
I would certainly wait for the Z06 if made in convertible. I want a covertible if possible. If the Z06 has 100 more horsepower, I'll wait for that too.

When I get the thing (and I will get it) I am going to drive it to California on Route 66. Always wanted to do that. I just don't know how I'm going to get it home.

roger · 09-21-2004, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MvCrash

I just don't know how I'm going to get it home.

Um, drive it?

Or do you just not want to repeat the drive on the way back? I could understand that, but if I had a Vette I think I could bring myself to do it!

There are companies that specialize in auto transport, but it's expensive from what I hear.

JSB · 09-21-2004, 12:12 PM

I personally can't stand vettes, just because you see them on every street corner. Plus they are usually driven by old fat bald guys, or chic's. Then there's the chevy thing. Granted Chevy finally, after 50 years, made one with some good performance numbers, which "now" makes them a good bang for your buck, I still wouldn't waste my money on one. The vert won't of course, unless it has some work done. To answer your question though, I'd have to know what your looking for exactly. If your looking for a sporty vert to cruise around in that has some american heritage, and you plan on keeping it for some time. Go buy a new one. If your looking for a stock fast sports car, I think you can spend you money on something better. Shoot, like some one already said, go drop $50k on a used convertible porsche turbo. Or forget the turbo, I'd still take it over the vette. At least that would be the only porsche I'd see on the way home from work.

fpkelly,
I've driven a friends Z06, and I have to agree with data it didn't "feel" as fast as it was. But you're probably referring to a mag stat as well. Not an ordinary driver, who hops into a z06 for the first time.

JSB · 09-21-2004, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-AWDriver

I personally did 4.3 secs to 60 in my Eclipse and had a half second on a Z06 in the 1/4 up here in Denver but I'd take the Vette anyday of course.

I ran neck and neck with one of those GSXs once. I'm still amazed how fast you can make that motor. Dang DSMs...

MvCrash · 09-21-2004, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSB

I personally can't stand vettes, just because you see them on every street corner. Plus they are usually driven by old fat bald guys, or chic's. .

Greetings,
Well, at least I'm not bald or a chic.

obex26 · 09-22-2004, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MvCrash

Greetings,
I would certainly wait for the Z06 if made in convertible. I want a covertible if possible. If the Z06 has 100 more horsepower, I'll wait for that too.

When I get the thing (and I will get it) I am going to drive it to California on Route 66. Always wanted to do that. I just don't know how I'm going to get it home.

Better Idea fly out to california and buy it and then drive it home.

X-AWDriver · 09-22-2004, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSB

I ran neck and neck with one of those GSXs once. I'm still amazed how fast you can make that motor. Dang DSMs...

In the 1/4 mile AWD is almost worth 100hp since I was running nearly head to head with 450hp GTSs up here but altitude also does steal ponies from us;at sea level down in Houston I ran a 12.52@112 but had some issues with a lean condition so I couldn't turn up the boost over 18psi. (the fuel system would've supported 22psi)

I can't wait to see the new Z06 and what they will nail up here at 5800ft since the "old" ones were good for about 13.6 with a good driver in stock trim.

jacksonpt · 09-22-2004, 11:25 AM

I'm not a corvette guy, so I can't comment much on this car versus that one. But I will say this... go with your heart, now your wallet. If you clearly like one better than the other, go with the one you like best. Most people who buy corvettes have the money to do it right... and don't need it as their primary driver.

Do it once... do it right the first time. That way you don't have to worry about selling the car you bought 3 months ago so you can get the one you really want.

MvCrash · 09-22-2004, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obex26

Better Idea fly out to california and buy it and then drive it home.

That is a great idea. Thanks.

turboale · 09-22-2004, 12:05 PM

After reading the areticles being made about the new C6 (eventhough american car journalists suck and only talk about good stuff and like everything) I wouldn't even consider a C5. There is something about owning a new car though. Its YOURS, and nobody elses. Everything WORKS, you have a WARRENTY, there are no little things that you just deal with like rattles etc. Which is something I would worry about in a vette, aaaall plastic. Personally, I would rather have a Caddy CTS V or GTO and put an S/C in it because everyone knows stock sucks.

Though, when it comes down to it... you are going to love whatever you get, unless its a complete lemon but after driving a taco that thing is going to feel like driving $1million.

good luck!

View Poll Results: Which would you buy or do?
Brand New C6 Corvette Convertible	17	68.00%
Wait 2 yrs and buy a used C6 Convertible	3	12.00%
Used Corvette C5 Convertible	2	8.00%
Brand New Leftover 2004 C5 Convertible	3	12.00%
Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

09-19-2004, 09:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
EDGE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: outside NYC Posts: 2,038	Buy new unless you found 1 in extremely good low mileage condition but then those are usually kept by the owners cause why loose money on selling such a mint car, but if I was you I would also look at preowned 911 Turbos, 50k can buy a lot but you could remorgage the house with what performance upgrades cost, Corvette is best dollar for performance value on the market and small things increase power the most, just ask any Corvette guys, advance the timing just gave you another 100hp, silly stuff like that. If you can do it buy new, it's yours and you know from the get go whats the deal plus if your gonna keep it don't worry about the value, mod the hell out of it and take it to the track and find a corvette club, go with a brand new C6 and know that that basic body style will be around for 5-7 years no doubt. The Insurance should not be to bad, I priced 80k cars and for full covererage was an additional 400 a year, my record is clean, remember it's a second car in your name how the hex can you drive both at once, and if you live in snowy areas then you can even insure it for 6 months. You only live once __________________ 2003 ES300 2003 V8 LTD 4Runner 2006 Nissan Maxima SE

09-19-2004, 01:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
BT17R Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Da Gorge, Oregon Posts: 5,656	I think you'll regret not waiting for the 2006 Z06. That'll give others a year to shake down the semi-new design while the finishing touches are put on the 500+ hp engine and lightweight frame and body. The Z06's hold value better and I thought I read that it'll be available for the first time in both coupe and convertible, but I might be wrong about that. There are some very knowledgeable enthusiasts over at www.corvetteforum.com, and some good deals on used cars with full histories. __________________ '07 FJ Cruiser TRD SE 6M/T

09-19-2004, 02:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
fpkelly Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: MD Posts: 194	I'll agree with waiting a year on the C6, let them shake out the bugs. Only problem with used Vettes is you dont know what was done to them before. Someone like me could have gotten in it and dumped the clutch a couple times just to see how much smoke it'd make. __________________ 05 GMC CC SLT Z71 LR Discovery

09-19-2004, 02:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
data Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,915	I drove a 2003 vette not too long ago and I wasn't the bit impressed. It seriously didn't seem that fast. Don't get me wrong though, it would get up and go, but I've drove way faster cars that cost way less...... But if I had my mind set on corvette, I'd wait to get a new one. __________________ 98 Limited 4x4, Rockstomper skid, Rockware Front bumper, Warn HS9500i, 1" RB BL, Tundra coils front & OME HD rear, Nuke quick discos, diff drop'd, 305/70/16 Baja Claws, Electric Locker, couple of battle scars, but nothing major :) Last edited by data; 09-19-2004 at 02:22 PM.

09-19-2004, 02:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
fpkelly Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: MD Posts: 194	Either you dont know how to drive or you were driving a Chevette. 0-60 in 4.8 is slow? 350Z 0-60 is 5.5, Evo is 4.8. Cant think of anything that costs WAY less thats faster than that. __________________ 05 GMC CC SLT Z71 LR Discovery

09-19-2004, 02:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,139	Better clutch in the EVO or an STi will hit under 4.5 secs 0-60 but then again that isn't stock and those cars don't look as cool as a new C6 does sitting parked. I personally did 4.3 secs to 60 in my Eclipse and had a half second on a Z06 in the 1/4 up here in Denver but I'd take the Vette anyday of course. Wait a year and buy a slightly used C6 (5000 miles or less) and save a few thousand and I think you'll be happy. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

09-19-2004, 02:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
TACOMANATOR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 645	I would wait for the new Z06. My brother in law has an 03 and that thing is freakin fast. The 06 will have almost 100 ponies more. screw the convertible get the Z06. __________________ 2000 Taco SR5 V6 5speed TRD Airaid MIT Vortex muffler DEI 2-way Extang Tuff Tonno III

09-19-2004, 05:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
RED 85 Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 958	THis This is what you should get. Corvette __________________ Brandi You heard of the boy named Sue, Well I'm a man named Brandi! '85 extra cab pick-up, Up on blocks waiting for time and money. '85 4-runner with 3" lift, 33's, 4.88's, rear ARB (still trying to get air to it), Downey intake with K&N filter, some type of header, Camo Int.

09-20-2004, 12:44 AM	#12 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,139	Was that a Lingenfelter turbo Vette? __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

09-20-2004, 08:04 AM	#13 (permalink)
SLC Punk Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 5,875	My vote is to buy a new C6. I bought my All-Trac used, and will never buy a used sports car again! __________________ -Travis 1997 4Runner SR5 V6 4X4 Supercharged Desert Dune SOLD :( 1992 Celica All Trac (AWD-Turbo) #223 of 271 US spec for 1992 FOR SALE 2005 Tundra Double Cab Limited 4X4 2.5" lift 265/70R17 Dueler Revo's 4Runner and Celica Webpage

09-20-2004, 08:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
RED 85 Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 958	"Was that a Lingenfelter turbo Vette?" Yup!!!!! __________________ Brandi You heard of the boy named Sue, Well I'm a man named Brandi! '85 extra cab pick-up, Up on blocks waiting for time and money. '85 4-runner with 3" lift, 33's, 4.88's, rear ARB (still trying to get air to it), Downey intake with K&N filter, some type of header, Camo Int.

09-20-2004, 12:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
roger Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 473	I would either buy a used C5 (maybe a Z06 if you want C6-like performance) or wait and buy a used C6. I just can't see myself ever buying a brand new car. They're a ripoff IMHO, and as reliable as today's cars are there's no reason to take that depreciation hit.

09-21-2004, 12:12 PM	#18 (permalink)
JSB Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 900	I personally can't stand vettes, just because you see them on every street corner. Plus they are usually driven by old fat bald guys, or chic's. Then there's the chevy thing. Granted Chevy finally, after 50 years, made one with some good performance numbers, which "now" makes them a good bang for your buck, I still wouldn't waste my money on one. The vert won't of course, unless it has some work done. To answer your question though, I'd have to know what your looking for exactly. If your looking for a sporty vert to cruise around in that has some american heritage, and you plan on keeping it for some time. Go buy a new one. If your looking for a stock fast sports car, I think you can spend you money on something better. Shoot, like some one already said, go drop $50k on a used convertible porsche turbo. Or forget the turbo, I'd still take it over the vette. At least that would be the only porsche I'd see on the way home from work. fpkelly, I've driven a friends Z06, and I have to agree with data it didn't "feel" as fast as it was. But you're probably referring to a mag stat as well. Not an ordinary driver, who hops into a z06 for the first time.

09-22-2004, 11:25 AM	#23 (permalink)
jacksonpt Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 2,753	I'm not a corvette guy, so I can't comment much on this car versus that one. But I will say this... go with your heart, now your wallet. If you clearly like one better than the other, go with the one you like best. Most people who buy corvettes have the money to do it right... and don't need it as their primary driver. Do it once... do it right the first time. That way you don't have to worry about selling the car you bought 3 months ago so you can get the one you really want. __________________ Jackson - My Site 96 SR5 4x4 - 33" MTs, open diffs, and 3.90s - LET'S ROCK! My runner has bee traded in sniff on an 06 SR5 long bed d-cab Tacoma. The tacoma is nice, but... sniff ... I'll update my site when I'm done grieving.

09-22-2004, 12:05 PM	#25 (permalink)
turboale Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 4,836	After reading the areticles being made about the new C6 (eventhough american car journalists suck and only talk about good stuff and like everything) I wouldn't even consider a C5. There is something about owning a new car though. Its YOURS, and nobody elses. Everything WORKS, you have a WARRENTY, there are no little things that you just deal with like rattles etc. Which is something I would worry about in a vette, aaaall plastic. Personally, I would rather have a Caddy CTS V or GTO and put an S/C in it because everyone knows stock sucks. Though, when it comes down to it... you are going to love whatever you get, unless its a complete lemon but after driving a taco that thing is going to feel like driving $1million. good luck! __________________ --Austin RHaus NYC 06 M45 Sport - Beauty 96 4Runner - The Beast

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