New speakers

runninclean · 11-06-2003, 08:19 AM

I need help looking for some new speakers for my girlfriends 1992 Toyota Camry. She has 6.5's in the front and 6x9's in the rear. I have MB Quarts in my 4runner but I'm not sure what to go with in the rear. I'm looking to spend around $100 per set this includes going to discount sites and e-bay. She is going to push one set with an MTX 30x2 amp that her friend gave her. Should she put the amp on the rears or the fronts? Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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runninclean · 11-06-2003, 08:31 AM

Thanks for the advice but I already know what fits. I just need some advice on what speakers people on here have had luck with.

Churnd · 11-06-2003, 08:37 AM

I would power the rear speakers with the amp, since they're further away from the driver and they're 6x9's and should compliment the amp pretty well.

As for brands, I like Infinity, as I have their component set in my truck. I've never heard anybody complain about the way an Infinity sounds, and you should be able to get a pair for what your g/f is looking to spend.

Check out the ZEB. They have the cheapest prices I've ever seen. I've bought from them on 2 seperate occasions, one being the bulk of my stereo equipment I have now. I spend around $400 there when it would have cost me over $800 anywhere else. They don't have Infinity, but they do have a lot of other good stuff. I'd also look at Directed Audio. I've had good experiences with their 6x9's, since I used to have them in my truck before I bought the Infinity components.

phoenix808 · 11-06-2003, 01:29 PM

pure opinion (speaker choice is so personal), but i love my polks. wouldn't trade em for the world.

cruizin01 · 11-06-2003, 02:17 PM

I would spend the 200 dollars on a set for the front and just disconnect the rears. Use the amp to run the fronts. I cant stand rear speakers

Front stage is the only way to go

I deff recommend the quarts and infinities.

OneTrickToy · 11-06-2003, 02:26 PM

Power the fronts. The rears are just "filler". That's the only reason anybody puts 6x9's in the rear. 6x9's put out good midbass, but are generally muddy compared to round speakers. You want most of the sound coming from the front, where most of the sound reaches your ears. In the rear, the distance to your ear changes the sound and you aren't going to notice the clarity problems. This is why most people put their expensive speakers in the front, and either don't worry about the back, or put cheap speakers in back.

4BangR · 11-06-2003, 07:30 PM

I have to agree with Pheonix, Polks kick butt. I have 2 10" Polk GNX subs in a custom box right behind my seats and they sound awesome. I definitely recommend looking on EBay. I got both my subs for around $80 with shipping brand new.

ragz · 11-06-2003, 09:05 PM

I like the Infinity line-up as well. I've heard complaints about lack of bass from them but that will depend a lot on their mounting (not really sure what people are expecting for bass from a 5.25" or 6.5" speaker but whatever).

General convention says to run the front speakers off the amp but that's a personal choice. As one installer tried to convince me once, when you go to a concert do you stand with your back to the stage to hear the music? Now with that being said I personally prefer my rears to be about equal with the fronts.

It's largely a very personal choice for both the brand of speakers and the way they are run. If they aren't going in a vehicle you're going to be driving, have her pick out the speakers themselves. I always have my wife come along when I've narrowed down speaker choice as women generally hear better in the higher range. So it may sound find to me but she might cringe when the high notes are played. Just a thought.

Rymin929 · 11-06-2003, 10:36 PM

My recommendation is gonna be Eclipse point source, yes rears are mainly ment for fill but not everybody is going for a competition setup and or has a 5.1 setup in there auto. For everyday listening the point source sound exceptional although a little pricy, the entry/mid level eclipse are also great sounding...I've given up on quart since they are now owned by rockford, and focal are way overpriced...Diaminds sound good but take some tweeking/work to get to sound right...JM2C...

cruizin01 · 11-07-2003, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rymin929
I've given up on quart since they are now owned by rockford

quart sold out to fosgate??

Yikes I hadn't heard that...why would they do a dumb thing like that

Glad I got mine when I did...maybe theyll keep the quality the same but I doubt it

ewarnerusa · 11-07-2003, 07:48 AM

I would say power the rear 6x9's in the car. I just upgraded my girlfriend's civic with Sony Xplods all around to compliment her Sony deck. Here speaker sizes are the same as your situation with the Camry. The rear speakers sound great with nice bass and lots of mid and highs. The rear speakers are where almost all of her sound is coming from. I think it is the shape of the window right above the rear speakers that bounces all of the sound towards the front. The power will compliment the 6x9's nicely, they definitely hit harder and lower than the 6.5's in the door.

My truck, on the other hand, all of the sound definitely comes from the front. I can barely hear the rear speakers unless I adjust the fade.

11-07-2003, 04:08 PM

Power the front speakers.. leave the rear as "fill". As most agree with, the frontstage is where you want the music. As for brands,

try: Crystal Audio components (sound domain) their subs are awesome and I've tried their component sets in several cars... they sound awesome... Also, if you can find a good deal on ebay or something... Boston Acoustics .. that what I currently use.

BAMAJAS · 11-07-2003, 07:30 PM

I'll through my 2 cents as well. Go to thezeb.com and order the CDT cl-61a 6.5 comp set for the front and the CDT cl-6x coaxials for the rear. Amplify the comp set and run the rear speakers off the head unit power. It will sound great.

AbramHart · 12-04-2003, 10:00 AM

DO NOT POWER THE REAR SPEAKERS WITH AN AMP!!

Unless you power the front and have the rear frequency set correctly with a Bandpass filter on it

Do you take your home speakers and put them behind you?
You want your sound comming from the front.

Duffdog · 12-04-2003, 11:24 AM

yeah....

most people arent into competitions or how their "soundstage" appears in a camry!

If you power the rears, it will be easier to run the wires and you will get more bass, because the 6x9's have a larger cone area and are using the trunk as an infinite baffle enclosure vs. the doors, which will give you very little bass.

just offering a real-world opinion.

T

ewarnerusa · 12-04-2003, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Duffdog
If you power the rears, it will be easier to run the wires and you will get more bass, because the 6x9's have a larger cone area and are using the trunk as an infinite baffle enclosure vs. the doors, which will give you very little bass.

just offering a real-world opinion.

T

Thank you! That is what I was saying, originally. In my truck, all I can really hear is the fronts. But in the Honda Civic, the 6x9's in the rear really pound pretty hard and I can hardly hear the 6.5's in the doors. They are all Sony Xplods, with a Sony deck.

11-06-2003, 08:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
runninclean Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 156	Thanks for the advice but I already know what fits. I just need some advice on what speakers people on here have had luck with. __________________ 1995 4Runner SR5-20" Equus rims, Clear Bumper and turn signals, Billet grille, Billet valance, Chrome nerf bars, Bushwhacker fender flares, Flowmaster Exhaust, Cold air intake, Interior-Reverse Indiglo guages, Neon accent lights Audio-Kenwood DDX-7015, Kenwood Sirius Tuner, Kenwood 10 disc changer, Kicker SS56.2 mids in Qlogic kickpanels, Kicker Resolution 6.5" mids in rear,Kicker 650.4 mid amp, Kicker KX1200.1, 2 12" Kicker Solo Baric L7 in custom box

11-06-2003, 08:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
Churnd Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 4,093	I would power the rear speakers with the amp, since they're further away from the driver and they're 6x9's and should compliment the amp pretty well. As for brands, I like Infinity, as I have their component set in my truck. I've never heard anybody complain about the way an Infinity sounds, and you should be able to get a pair for what your g/f is looking to spend. Check out the ZEB. They have the cheapest prices I've ever seen. I've bought from them on 2 seperate occasions, one being the bulk of my stereo equipment I have now. I spend around $400 there when it would have cost me over $800 anywhere else. They don't have Infinity, but they do have a lot of other good stuff. I'd also look at Directed Audio. I've had good experiences with their 6x9's, since I used to have them in my truck before I bought the Infinity components. __________________ -Chris If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Click here to search! My Website Last edited by Churnd; 11-06-2003 at 08:39 AM.

11-06-2003, 01:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
phoenix808 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 106	pure opinion (speaker choice is so personal), but i love my polks. wouldn't trade em for the world. __________________ 2002 SR5 Sport Edition : All Black : All Audio (for now)

11-06-2003, 02:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
cruizin01 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mt. Vernon Ohio Posts: 633	I would spend the 200 dollars on a set for the front and just disconnect the rears. Use the amp to run the fronts. I cant stand rear speakers Front stage is the only way to go I deff recommend the quarts and infinities. __________________ -Derek- 1998 Std. Cab Tacoma_4x4_2.7L_5 speed_PPG Gloss Black_2" RB BL_OME 882's & springs_33x12.50 MTR's on 15x10 Eagles_Westin Safari Bar_PIAA 520 SMR/Fog_Clear Lenses_Rear Diff Breather Mod_Manual Hubs_Taurus electric fan _Kenwood cd/mp3 player_Boston Z Comps_Boston Pro 10.5_fosgate 800.4_jbl 600.1_1 farad cap_bugshield_Magnaflow muff w/Borla tip_Tint 35-sides;20-back Pic Page

11-06-2003, 02:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
OneTrickToy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 917	Power the fronts. The rears are just "filler". That's the only reason anybody puts 6x9's in the rear. 6x9's put out good midbass, but are generally muddy compared to round speakers. You want most of the sound coming from the front, where most of the sound reaches your ears. In the rear, the distance to your ear changes the sound and you aren't going to notice the clarity problems. This is why most people put their expensive speakers in the front, and either don't worry about the back, or put cheap speakers in back. __________________ New Rig 2007 Double Cab Taco Sold 1991 300ZX Twin Turbo Stage 3+ Sold 1991 4x4 Pickup V6 5spd; 3" Rancho lift; 1.5" BJ Spacers; Rear Detroit

11-06-2003, 07:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
4BangR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 135	I have to agree with Pheonix, Polks kick butt. I have 2 10" Polk GNX subs in a custom box right behind my seats and they sound awesome. I definitely recommend looking on EBay. I got both my subs for around $80 with shipping brand new. __________________ 1988 pickup 22RE that thinks its quick. Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

11-06-2003, 09:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
ragz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 11	I like the Infinity line-up as well. I've heard complaints about lack of bass from them but that will depend a lot on their mounting (not really sure what people are expecting for bass from a 5.25" or 6.5" speaker but whatever). General convention says to run the front speakers off the amp but that's a personal choice. As one installer tried to convince me once, when you go to a concert do you stand with your back to the stage to hear the music? Now with that being said I personally prefer my rears to be about equal with the fronts. It's largely a very personal choice for both the brand of speakers and the way they are run. If they aren't going in a vehicle you're going to be driving, have her pick out the speakers themselves. I always have my wife come along when I've narrowed down speaker choice as women generally hear better in the higher range. So it may sound find to me but she might cringe when the high notes are played. Just a thought.

11-06-2003, 10:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rymin929 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lakewood, CO. Posts: 80	My recommendation is gonna be Eclipse point source, yes rears are mainly ment for fill but not everybody is going for a competition setup and or has a 5.1 setup in there auto. For everyday listening the point source sound exceptional although a little pricy, the entry/mid level eclipse are also great sounding...I've given up on quart since they are now owned by rockford, and focal are way overpriced...Diaminds sound good but take some tweeking/work to get to sound right...JM2C... __________________ Why is it we don't have enough time to do things right, but we have so much time to do things over? Quote: For all you helmetless bad boys, try the following experiment: Tie your hands behind your back, stand up straight and then fall forward onto your forehead. When you regain consciousness, consider what happens at 35 miles per hour while you just make a "quick run to the store".

11-07-2003, 07:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
ewarnerusa Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Helena, Montana Posts: 510	I would say power the rear 6x9's in the car. I just upgraded my girlfriend's civic with Sony Xplods all around to compliment her Sony deck. Here speaker sizes are the same as your situation with the Camry. The rear speakers sound great with nice bass and lots of mid and highs. The rear speakers are where almost all of her sound is coming from. I think it is the shape of the window right above the rear speakers that bounces all of the sound towards the front. The power will compliment the 6x9's nicely, they definitely hit harder and lower than the 6.5's in the door. My truck, on the other hand, all of the sound definitely comes from the front. I can barely hear the rear speakers unless I adjust the fade. __________________ Pics - 2003 Toyota Tacoma Xtracab TRD 4x4 Imperial Jade Last edited by ewarnerusa; 11-08-2003 at 08:20 AM.

11-07-2003, 04:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
Brokenaero_O-3 Guest Posts: n/a	Power the front speakers.. leave the rear as "fill". As most agree with, the frontstage is where you want the music. As for brands, try: Crystal Audio components (sound domain) their subs are awesome and I've tried their component sets in several cars... they sound awesome... Also, if you can find a good deal on ebay or something... Boston Acoustics .. that what I currently use.

11-07-2003, 07:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
BAMAJAS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: BIRMINGHAM,AL Posts: 17	I'll through my 2 cents as well. Go to thezeb.com and order the CDT cl-61a 6.5 comp set for the front and the CDT cl-6x coaxials for the rear. Amplify the comp set and run the rear speakers off the head unit power. It will sound great.

12-04-2003, 10:00 AM	#14 (permalink)
AbramHart Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 51	DO NOT POWER THE REAR SPEAKERS WITH AN AMP!! Unless you power the front and have the rear frequency set correctly with a Bandpass filter on it Do you take your home speakers and put them behind you? You want your sound comming from the front.

12-04-2003, 11:24 AM	#15 (permalink)
Duffdog Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CA Posts: 316	yeah.... most people arent into competitions or how their "soundstage" appears in a camry! If you power the rears, it will be easier to run the wires and you will get more bass, because the 6x9's have a larger cone area and are using the trunk as an infinite baffle enclosure vs. the doors, which will give you very little bass. just offering a real-world opinion. T

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