New fangled "Blue" and "white" HID lights SUCK HUGE

AxleIke · 10-31-2007, 11:24 PM

I was cluttering up another thread, but am irritated enough to start a new thread, though it is of zero tech value, so it goes in OT.

As the title says, any car with the new crap headlights blinds me on the road. I implore all members here, should you get the urge to either buy a car with them, or convert your current car to them, RESIST! RESIST! RESIST!

My current feeling of justice for those who drive with said lights, is to mount a pair of those HUGE lighforce lights both on my front bumper, facing directly into oncomming traffic, and a pair on the roof, aimed directly into the windshield of the car behind me. When a blazing set of blue headlights gets behind me, or is coming at me, i'll just flip on the million candle power beams and give them a taste of their own medicine.

It is just bloody ridiculous. Why the laws in our states allow this bull pucky is beyond me. I've written two letters to my congressman about it, but realize that no congressman is dumb enough to go against the auto lobby. Good way to vent though.

brentcole5 · 10-31-2007, 11:38 PM

agreed, i just started to drive with my high beams on to show em what its like!

fork · 11-01-2007, 12:07 AM

i agree. those lights are annoying as hell. im proud to say mine are all stock. no clear corners either

CJM · 11-01-2007, 01:35 AM

I hate them things, they blind the crap out of me!

stormin94 · 11-01-2007, 01:39 AM

They get my high beams, no matter if they have em on(highbeams) or not. Or, if they flash me, they get the Mag Lite!!!!AH HAHAHA!!!!!

superjoe83 · 11-01-2007, 09:50 AM

are you talking about OEM HID, or aftermarket kits?

if your talking about kits then i agree 100%

but if your talking about OEM HID then i dont agree....

AxleIke · 11-01-2007, 10:04 AM

I assumed they came OEM. I can't imagine too many beamer owners swapping out kits. Probably a few, but not all of them.

**aviator** · 11-01-2007, 10:44 AM

There is a large problem with the OEM HIDs because they are so much brighter than the old style halogens they have to be aimed perfectly. Sadly it has been my experiance in talking with some mechanics that they don't know how to perform this simple task anymore. They say "the factory set them up already" or something to that effect... (head shake) yeah sure...
Another issue is co-related to the aiming is that when the aiming job is done most vehicles are empty [or next thing to it] as soon as you load up the car with people and/or the trunk with junk [audio gear, luggage, whatever] you change the aim of the head lights [because you change the 'stance" of the vehicle] (the oldsmobile version of the Blazer had HIDs a few years ago and added air bag suspension in part to help keep the vehicle level to avoid this problem). Other high end cars use a "smart" system to have the lights constantly adjust to "peep" around corners and so on these systems probably go out of 'trim" pretty often IMO [murphy's law right?].

If you do do an HID conversion [or even if replacing reg. lights] make sure the vehicle has a full tank of gas and one person in the drivers seat at a minimum. [this from the FSM section on aiming lights] myself for even greater accuracy I would make sure the vehicle also had a "medium" load on [ie half of the most you would ever carry] like a week's worth of groceries and one kid in back or something like that. But that is just me...
Hope this helped a bit...

Joe's Toy · 11-01-2007, 10:59 AM

I'd just hit them with these babys

Those are Warn driving HIDS. Lol no I wouldn't do that, there's a good chance if I turned those things on in traffic some1 would hit me. I don't mind the HIDs so much as those big stupid Chevys/Fords that don't adjust their lights after lifting they're truck a foot.

p.s. No I wasn't trying to make my truck look like it was smiling in that picture, but it's kinda funny.

X-AWDriver · 11-01-2007, 11:33 AM

Just watch for the po-po since they will ticket people for flashing other drivers with their off road lights since you are endangering the person more than his lights are bothering you. My friend got a $200 ticket for flashing a driver with his million candle power lights with the cop right behind him. The ticket was something like aggravated endangerment and can be considered a road rage incident.

Yes,they are bright (but not enough it bugs me) and should be properly aimed but get used to it since we aren't going back to older dimmer lights.

I remember people in the '80s complaining about the "new" Halogens being too bright.

Volcom · 11-01-2007, 12:25 PM

But they are sooooo nice when behind the wheel of a car with HID's.

tc · 11-01-2007, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxleIke

My current feeling of justice for those who drive with said lights, is to mount a pair of those HUGE lighforce lights both on my front bumper, facing directly into oncomming traffic, and a pair on the roof, aimed directly into the windshield of the car behind me. When a blazing set of blue headlights gets behind me, or is coming at me, i'll just flip on the million candle power beams and give them a taste of their own medicine.

Wonder where you got that idea. ...

spanish-road · 11-01-2007, 01:16 PM

yelp I hate the new light all bright has hell, it hurts to drive now and some drivers have the high beams on. Im with you on the rally lights.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 11-01-2007, 08:48 PM

if someones behind me with those HIDS, i flip my mirror so i dont have to see them. if they flash me, i slow down and wait for them to get in front of me, then flash them with my KCs and my highbeams. stupid people, i hate most people who drive beemers, most of em are stuck up and rude, but i agree there are some cool ones, like the ones on here. and Joe, that truck was designed from the factory to be smiling.

. god i cant wait until i get more lights mounted on the bumper to get revenge on people whos car is immune to the KCs due to height. or, LOW height, to be exact.

Avenged · 12-04-2007, 05:42 PM

its just the opposite for me i think hids are 100X easier to drive into then a sephia tone everywhere glaring like non other

stevrock · 12-04-2007, 07:13 PM

What they have to do is put a limit on how high the lights on a vehicle are from the ground.
That would solve the problem of these hillbillies stopping behind me on my bumper with their lights directly in the path of my mirrors.

Also, a limit on the strength of lights should be created to a maximum distance of 500ft for high beams, and low beams should be at about 300ft.
This rule should be enforced with fines from our folks in blue.

It is a danger to the motoring public, even if they help the driver of the offending vehicle see a wee bit better.

Jay351 · 12-04-2007, 07:44 PM

I can't stand the new lights, also the stupid fog lights everyone has on. HELLO THERE IS NO FOG!!! Jeeze, sure it makes it nice for you to see, but you blind everyone else in the process. Good thing I got all my lights wired up. 4 hellas + high beams are very bright

mikes19984x4 · 12-04-2007, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay351

I can't stand the new lights, also the stupid fog lights everyone has on. HELLO THERE IS NO FOG!!! Jeeze, sure it makes it nice for you to see, but you blind everyone else in the process. Good thing I got all my lights wired up. 4 hellas + high beams are very bright

yeah, just like all of the chevy 1500 and 2500 4x4s, whose fog light always seem to be aimed up from where they are mounted, thus appearing to be brighter than the headlights when approaching one on the road...and not to mention those goof-balls who crank their torsion bars on these trucks (no offense to any yotatech guys with cranked t-bars) and make it even worse...if i'm alone and no cops are around and one with their lights like this approach me, i let them know to fix their lights courtesy of my high-beam silverstars and hella 500s....

10-31-2007, 11:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,558	New fangled "Blue" and "white" HID lights SUCK HUGE I was cluttering up another thread, but am irritated enough to start a new thread, though it is of zero tech value, so it goes in OT. As the title says, any car with the new crap headlights blinds me on the road. I implore all members here, should you get the urge to either buy a car with them, or convert your current car to them, RESIST! RESIST! RESIST! My current feeling of justice for those who drive with said lights, is to mount a pair of those HUGE lighforce lights both on my front bumper, facing directly into oncomming traffic, and a pair on the roof, aimed directly into the windshield of the car behind me. When a blazing set of blue headlights gets behind me, or is coming at me, i'll just flip on the million candle power beams and give them a taste of their own medicine. It is just bloody ridiculous. Why the laws in our states allow this bull pucky is beyond me. I've written two letters to my congressman about it, but realize that no congressman is dumb enough to go against the auto lobby. Good way to vent though. __________________ IFS SAS My mods aren't bling enough for the signature line. -All Terrains are for when you know how to drive.

11-01-2007, 01:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
CJM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Central NJ Posts: 4,580	I hate them things, they blind the crap out of me! __________________ 96' T100 SR5 4x4, ISR mod, Custom ABS snorkel, KC 57's Hella optilux el cheapo backup lights. Cobra 19III CB, Firestick 4ft antenna, Bilstein shocks. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

11-01-2007, 01:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
stormin94 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA/Sacramento Posts: 3,281	They get my high beams, no matter if they have em on(highbeams) or not. Or, if they flash me, they get the Mag Lite!!!!AH HAHAHA!!!!! __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4X4 208,000 miles and counting 3.0 V6, 5 speed 14/19 MPG city/hwy(before 33's) Current Mods Headers, 2.5" Flowmaster custom exhaust, K&N FIPK KC Daylighter 100 Watt lights Ranchos x4, 2" Lift Downey coils 33-12.50 M/T's, 1" t-bar lift, 1" body lift Tow pkg w/ lighthookups Silverstar Headlights, Pioneer Deck w/XM Brushguard 250Watt JLAudio 8" W3 Sub Future Mods 12V Aux outlet-400/800peak inverter roof basket/lights Air locker 4.88 gears H.O. Alternator

11-01-2007, 09:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
superjoe83 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oregon City, Oregon Posts: 1,872	are you talking about OEM HID, or aftermarket kits? if your talking about kits then i agree 100% but if your talking about OEM HID then i dont agree.... __________________ - Joe 1984 SR5 4runner, 22re, 5-speed, chevy 63"s, rears up front custom pack, BBCS shocks, 2" BL, 5.29's, welded rear, Detroit in front, Longfields, IFS Rear, 39.5x13.50x15 IROK's, Marlin's High Steer, MC07 with stock cases, Marlin's cross member, tube bumper, Warn XD9000, Allied Beadlocks 1999 Taco 2.7 5-speed, LCE Header, Jardine 2.25 Cat-Back, 3" Downey Coilover, 33x13.5 Toyo MT's, ARB Bull Bar, Retrofitted Acura TL HID Projectors with 4300k Philips bulbs Last edited by superjoe83 : 11-01-2007 at 10:00 AM.

11-01-2007, 10:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,558	I assumed they came OEM. I can't imagine too many beamer owners swapping out kits. Probably a few, but not all of them. __________________ IFS SAS My mods aren't bling enough for the signature line. -All Terrains are for when you know how to drive.

10-31-2007, 11:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
brentcole5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 59	agreed, i just started to drive with my high beams on to show em what its like!

11-01-2007, 12:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
fork Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: out in the pacific Posts: 597	i agree. those lights are annoying as hell. im proud to say mine are all stock. no clear corners either

11-01-2007, 10:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 5,324	There is a large problem with the OEM HIDs because they are so much brighter than the old style halogens they have to be aimed perfectly. Sadly it has been my experiance in talking with some mechanics that they don't know how to perform this simple task anymore. They say "the factory set them up already" or something to that effect... (head shake) yeah sure... Another issue is co-related to the aiming is that when the aiming job is done most vehicles are empty [or next thing to it] as soon as you load up the car with people and/or the trunk with junk [audio gear, luggage, whatever] you change the aim of the head lights [because you change the 'stance" of the vehicle] (the oldsmobile version of the Blazer had HIDs a few years ago and added air bag suspension in part to help keep the vehicle level to avoid this problem). Other high end cars use a "smart" system to have the lights constantly adjust to "peep" around corners and so on these systems probably go out of 'trim" pretty often IMO [murphy's law right?]. If you do do an HID conversion [or even if replacing reg. lights] make sure the vehicle has a full tank of gas and one person in the drivers seat at a minimum. [this from the FSM section on aiming lights] myself for even greater accuracy I would make sure the vehicle also had a "medium" load on [ie half of the most you would ever carry] like a week's worth of groceries and one kid in back or something like that. But that is just me... Hope this helped a bit... __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

11-01-2007, 10:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
Joe's Toy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 478	I'd just hit them with these babys Those are Warn driving HIDS. Lol no I wouldn't do that, there's a good chance if I turned those things on in traffic some1 would hit me. I don't mind the HIDs so much as those big stupid Chevys/Fords that don't adjust their lights after lifting they're truck a foot. p.s. No I wasn't trying to make my truck look like it was smiling in that picture, but it's kinda funny. __________________ "And they called him a Hebrew Slave" 2003 Tacoma Prerunner, Double cab, 3.4 V6 5VZ-FE, auto. 2wd, rear e-locker My Profile (06/09/07)-Deckplate-(07/14/07)-ISR-(08/27/07)-WARN 4300K HID lights-(11/22/07) -True-Cool Tranny Cooler-(12/25/07) -Tru Flow air filter-(12/25/07) -Husky Floor Liners-(02/14/08)-ScanGaugeII-(04/30/08)-Glassworks Unlimited hood-

11-01-2007, 11:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 9,532	Just watch for the po-po since they will ticket people for flashing other drivers with their off road lights since you are endangering the person more than his lights are bothering you. My friend got a $200 ticket for flashing a driver with his million candle power lights with the cop right behind him. The ticket was something like aggravated endangerment and can be considered a road rage incident. Yes,they are bright (but not enough it bugs me) and should be properly aimed but get used to it since we aren't going back to older dimmer lights. I remember people in the '80s complaining about the "new" Halogens being too bright. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

11-01-2007, 12:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Volcom Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pueblo, CO Posts: 571	But they are sooooo nice when behind the wheel of a car with HID's. __________________ 1984 Toyota 4Runner EFI swap TG 4" springs Marlin Crawler Dual Ultimate Crawler 39.5" Iroks My 4 wheel drive club http://www.rockfrogs.org

11-01-2007, 01:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
spanish-road Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairbanks,AK Posts: 414	yelp I hate the new light all bright has hell, it hurts to drive now and some drivers have the high beams on. Im with you on the rally lights. __________________ 1991 toyota pickup extcab- 22re 31x10.5x15 bone stock except for the RV cam and tires.

11-01-2007, 08:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 4,167	if someones behind me with those HIDS, i flip my mirror so i dont have to see them. if they flash me, i slow down and wait for them to get in front of me, then flash them with my KCs and my highbeams. stupid people, i hate most people who drive beemers, most of em are stuck up and rude, but i agree there are some cool ones, like the ones on here. and Joe, that truck was designed from the factory to be smiling. . god i cant wait until i get more lights mounted on the bumper to get revenge on people whos car is immune to the KCs due to height. or, LOW height, to be exact. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22RE 258,000 miles on original motor pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

12-04-2007, 05:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
Avenged Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 44	its just the opposite for me i think hids are 100X easier to drive into then a sephia tone everywhere glaring like non other

12-04-2007, 07:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 6,031	I can't stand the new lights, also the stupid fog lights everyone has on. HELLO THERE IS NO FOG!!! Jeeze, sure it makes it nice for you to see, but you blind everyone else in the process. Good thing I got all my lights wired up. 4 hellas + high beams are very bright __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - sr5 - 4x4 - 230,000kms \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \|Diff breather mod \| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|Downey idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

12-04-2007, 09:56 PM	#19 (permalink)
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