Internet Explorer Vs. Netscape

HBoss · 10-16-2002, 02:32 PM

Hello all,

I'm just wondering what percentage of users on the Yotatech forums use I.E or Netscape. More specifically, I.E 6 versus Netscape 7.

Al

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Bob_98SR5 · 10-16-2002, 02:40 PM

H:

My budding and always-on-hold website, 4runners.org, statistics log says the following:

IE: 98.2%
Netscape: 0.8%
Others: 1.0%

Bob

HBoss · 10-16-2002, 02:49 PM

Hehe, that I don't find surprising.

I'm normally an I.E. user but I've decided to try Netscape 7 out. Other than 2 glitches and lack of a feature or two, I'm starting to like it much better than I.E. It seems to load faster, bring web pages up faster and I like how it has multiple tabs for browsing multiple web pages within the same program/shell window, instead of opening multiple browser windows for multiple web pages.

Overall, still undecided though heh.

***Corey*** · 10-16-2002, 02:56 PM

I use to be a diehard Netscape fan, but the 4. 7 and above series were laden with bugs such as when you shut the browser down, it would still be running in the background.

A ctrl/alt/delete 3 finger salute would confirm this.
I now use IE 5.5 exclusively.

Seems the 12,000 plus visitors to my 4Runner site confirm they like IE better also.

Here's also a break down of the OS used by folk's 'cruisin' my website.
Seems 98 is the winner, same OS I still run.

This site tracking thing on the people counter I have is pretty cool.

HBoss · 10-16-2002, 03:12 PM

Yup, Netscape 4.7 not dying off properly happens with it & WinXP as well. They finally fixed that with Netscape 7 it seems.

I've got too much time on my hands these days, I just emailed Netscape to let them know of some browser errors I found. Oh, the exciting life I lead sometimes...

cpw2002 · 10-17-2002, 06:23 AM

I have always used Netscape. But also use I E 6. I prefer NS7.
Mozilla is a big help to this new upgrade. You can configure easier and a lot more conveniece features. I also use Opera to browse, it is fast and less ads.

cybrenergy · 10-17-2002, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cpw2002
I have always used Netscape. But also use I E 6. I prefer NS7.
Mozilla is a big help to this new upgrade. You can configure easier and a lot more conveniece features. I also use Opera to browse, it is fast and less ads.

Does Opera have some sort of anti-ad technology built into it? It's not like IE or Netscape generate the ads, they only display what the page is telling it to do.

Dandeman · 10-17-2002, 07:44 AM

Use NS 7 based on Mozilla and Gecko rendering engine.. been very solid and much better performance than NS 6.0 which I avoided due to excessive bloatware..

I refuse to use IE due to long track record of security problems... can't remove it (thanks Bill

) from w2k, but use BlackICE 3.5 to prevent any communications to internet by IE.. Also use BlackICE to prevent Outlook Express from executing (again can't remove)

cpw2002 · 10-17-2002, 08:18 AM

COMPARISON: http://www.searchengineworld.com/opera/faceoff.htm
FEATURES: http://www.opera.com/features/
INTRO: http://www.tntluoma.com/opera/lover/
Opera 6 User FAQ: http://www.searchengineworld.com/opera/tweak.htm
Opera Browser Tutorial: http://www.wave-report.com/tutorials/opera.htm
OPERA FACEOFF: http://www.searchengineworld.com/opera/faceoff.htm
OPERA FILE EXPLORER: http://westelcom.com/users/jsegur/
OPERA FUN SKINS: http://www.searchengineworld.com/opera/buttons/
OPERA KEYBOARD: http://www.opera.com/windows/keyboard.html
OPERA TIPS: http://www.searchengineworld.com/opera/faq.htm
OPERA TUTORIAL: http://www.opera.com/support/start/
opera.com-CUSTOMIZE: http://composer.opera.com/
OPERA.INI-FILE-PREFERENCES: http://www.opera.com/support/mastering/operaini/
Opera: http://www.opera.com/download/windows.html#32
Opera_hints_tips.htm: http://www.profile.co.uk/services/Opera_hints_tips.htm
OP-TOOL-OPERA: http://www.kreacom.dk/opera/optool/

_____________________________
Yes it has an active pop-up stopper

WATRD · 10-17-2002, 09:30 AM

Here's the stats from the WATTORA.COM chapter site for the month of September;

Hits | Percentage | Browser

69889 94.75% Internet Explorer
2704 3.67% Netscape

The remaining percentage is divided amongst various web crawlers and a few alternate browsers.

HBoss · 10-18-2002, 01:27 PM

Ok, I have tried my hardest to give Netscape a chance but I give up. I can't stand it, it has too many little annoying bugs/features. :mad:

I'm going back to Internet Explorer again, it's so much better. Netscrape can kiss my

hehe

***Corey*** · 10-18-2002, 02:36 PM

Kewl...you saved me the trouble of DL'n it.
I'll just stick with the 4.77 I have on my PC now since all I use is the web page builder part of it.
Corey

HBoss · 10-18-2002, 03:44 PM

DO NOT install Netscape 7 and DO NOT make it your default browser. It screws up your OS whether or not you uninstall it. Internet Explorer won't automatically ask if it's not the default browser anymore and double-clicking shortcuts will now result in an error. I am right-pissed now.

***Corey*** · 10-18-2002, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HBoss
DO NOT install Netscape 7 and DO NOT make it your default browser. It screws up your OS whether or not you uninstall it. Internet Explorer won't automatically ask if it's not the default browser anymore and double-clicking shortcuts will now result in an error. I am right-pissed now.

Oh craaaaaaaaap.
And there is no way to edit the system to make a 'Net shortcut open up with IE anymore?

I will not DL Netscape now for sure.
I am very happy with IE after using it for the past few years now.

HBoss · 10-18-2002, 05:22 PM

You can fix the problem by resetting all of IE's settings. It won't prompt you to be the default browser still, but it will open up the shortcuts properly now... sigh

Krash · 10-20-2002, 12:56 AM

I will admit I like IE6 even though it isn't very secure its good for general web browsing. Netscape is surprisingly fast on the red hat (7.3) linux install that I did on my older computer so i'll give it a lil credit but i've never used it as a browser and never plan to any time soon. I might try mozilla cause my friend tells me I should.

edit: Mozilla if i remember right is the base for netscape 7 but i'm using mozilla right now and it seems to be an alright browser...

cpw2002 · 10-21-2002, 06:14 AM

On windows ME under ad & remove programs there is a repair to IE after
you select remove. THe remover will
ask you if you want to repair IE.

cpw2002 · 10-21-2002, 06:22 AM

If you want more info on Mozilla try:http://www.mozilla.org/

For Netscape 7 users you can upgrade from Mozilla 1.01 to 1.1 from Netscape
preferences.

10-16-2002, 02:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
HBoss Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,878	Hehe, that I don't find surprising. I'm normally an I.E. user but I've decided to try Netscape 7 out. Other than 2 glitches and lack of a feature or two, I'm starting to like it much better than I.E. It seems to load faster, bring web pages up faster and I like how it has multiple tabs for browsing multiple web pages within the same program/shell window, instead of opening multiple browser windows for multiple web pages. Overall, still undecided though heh. __________________ 1997 4Runner Ltd. Bilstein shocks, rear E-locker & riding on 32s. Mods Pics Tech articles, write-ups & more are available on my website. http://www.hboss.net/4runner

10-16-2002, 02:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,081	I use to be a diehard Netscape fan, but the 4. 7 and above series were laden with bugs such as when you shut the browser down, it would still be running in the background. A ctrl/alt/delete 3 finger salute would confirm this. I now use IE 5.5 exclusively. Seems the 12,000 plus visitors to my 4Runner site confirm they like IE better also. Here's also a break down of the OS used by folk's 'cruisin' my website. Seems 98 is the winner, same OS I still run. This site tracking thing on the people counter I have is pretty cool. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

10-16-2002, 03:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
HBoss Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,878	Yup, Netscape 4.7 not dying off properly happens with it & WinXP as well. They finally fixed that with Netscape 7 it seems. I've got too much time on my hands these days, I just emailed Netscape to let them know of some browser errors I found. Oh, the exciting life I lead sometimes... __________________ 1997 4Runner Ltd. Bilstein shocks, rear E-locker & riding on 32s. Mods Pics Tech articles, write-ups & more are available on my website. http://www.hboss.net/4runner

10-17-2002, 06:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
cpw2002 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Englewood, Fla Posts: 201	I have always used Netscape. But also use I E 6. I prefer NS7. Mozilla is a big help to this new upgrade. You can configure easier and a lot more conveniece features. I also use Opera to browse, it is fast and less ads. __________________ CPW 2002 4Runner SR5 V6 2WD/ECT Millennium Silver Metallic Just wanted chrome bumpers (for now)

10-17-2002, 07:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
Dandeman Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 20	Use NS 7.0; avoid IE due to security concerns Use NS 7 based on Mozilla and Gecko rendering engine.. been very solid and much better performance than NS 6.0 which I avoided due to excessive bloatware.. I refuse to use IE due to long track record of security problems... can't remove it (thanks Bill ) from w2k, but use BlackICE 3.5 to prevent any communications to internet by IE.. Also use BlackICE to prevent Outlook Express from executing (again can't remove) __________________ Dan

View Poll Results: Which web browser do you prefer?
Internet Explorer	20	86.96%
Netscape	3	13.04%
Other	0	0%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

10-16-2002, 02:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bob_98SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,092	H: My budding and always-on-hold website, 4runners.org, statistics log says the following: IE: 98.2% Netscape: 0.8% Others: 1.0% Bob

10-17-2002, 08:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
cpw2002 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Englewood, Fla Posts: 201	COMPARISON: http://www.searchengineworld.com/opera/faceoff.htm FEATURES: http://www.opera.com/features/ INTRO: http://www.tntluoma.com/opera/lover/ Opera 6 User FAQ: http://www.searchengineworld.com/opera/tweak.htm Opera Browser Tutorial: http://www.wave-report.com/tutorials/opera.htm OPERA FACEOFF: http://www.searchengineworld.com/opera/faceoff.htm OPERA FILE EXPLORER: http://westelcom.com/users/jsegur/ OPERA FUN SKINS: http://www.searchengineworld.com/opera/buttons/ OPERA KEYBOARD: http://www.opera.com/windows/keyboard.html OPERA TIPS: http://www.searchengineworld.com/opera/faq.htm OPERA TUTORIAL: http://www.opera.com/support/start/ opera.com-CUSTOMIZE: http://composer.opera.com/ OPERA.INI-FILE-PREFERENCES: http://www.opera.com/support/mastering/operaini/ Opera: http://www.opera.com/download/windows.html#32 Opera_hints_tips.htm: http://www.profile.co.uk/services/Opera_hints_tips.htm OP-TOOL-OPERA: http://www.kreacom.dk/opera/optool/ _____________________________ Yes it has an active pop-up stopper __________________ CPW 2002 4Runner SR5 V6 2WD/ECT Millennium Silver Metallic Just wanted chrome bumpers (for now)

10-17-2002, 09:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
WATRD Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duvall, WA Posts: 5,109	Here's the stats from the WATTORA.COM chapter site for the month of September; Hits \| Percentage \| Browser 69889 94.75% Internet Explorer 2704 3.67% Netscape The remaining percentage is divided amongst various web crawlers and a few alternate browsers. __________________ -Rob Slightly Modified 2001 Tacoma - WATRD.COM WATTORA is becoming NWToys! Tread Lightly! certified Tread Trainer Search 100+ Toyota tech sites, including this one: Toyota Tech Search

10-18-2002, 01:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
HBoss Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,878	Ok, I have tried my hardest to give Netscape a chance but I give up. I can't stand it, it has too many little annoying bugs/features. :mad: I'm going back to Internet Explorer again, it's so much better. Netscrape can kiss my hehe __________________ 1997 4Runner Ltd. Bilstein shocks, rear E-locker & riding on 32s. Mods Pics Tech articles, write-ups & more are available on my website. http://www.hboss.net/4runner

10-18-2002, 02:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,081	Kewl...you saved me the trouble of DL'n it. I'll just stick with the 4.77 I have on my PC now since all I use is the web page builder part of it. Corey

10-18-2002, 03:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
HBoss Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,878	DO NOT install Netscape 7 and DO NOT make it your default browser. It screws up your OS whether or not you uninstall it. Internet Explorer won't automatically ask if it's not the default browser anymore and double-clicking shortcuts will now result in an error. I am right-pissed now. __________________ 1997 4Runner Ltd. Bilstein shocks, rear E-locker & riding on 32s. Mods Pics Tech articles, write-ups & more are available on my website. http://www.hboss.net/4runner

10-18-2002, 05:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
HBoss Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,878	You can fix the problem by resetting all of IE's settings. It won't prompt you to be the default browser still, but it will open up the shortcuts properly now... sigh __________________ 1997 4Runner Ltd. Bilstein shocks, rear E-locker & riding on 32s. Mods Pics Tech articles, write-ups & more are available on my website. http://www.hboss.net/4runner

10-20-2002, 12:56 AM	#16 (permalink)
Krash Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 1,322	I will admit I like IE6 even though it isn't very secure its good for general web browsing. Netscape is surprisingly fast on the red hat (7.3) linux install that I did on my older computer so i'll give it a lil credit but i've never used it as a browser and never plan to any time soon. I might try mozilla cause my friend tells me I should. edit: Mozilla if i remember right is the base for netscape 7 but i'm using mozilla right now and it seems to be an alright browser... __________________ 1990 Ext. Cab 22re 5speed 4wd SOLD Last edited by Krash; 10-20-2002 at 02:09 AM.

10-21-2002, 06:14 AM	#17 (permalink)
cpw2002 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Englewood, Fla Posts: 201	On windows ME under ad & remove programs there is a repair to IE after you select remove. THe remover will ask you if you want to repair IE. __________________ CPW 2002 4Runner SR5 V6 2WD/ECT Millennium Silver Metallic Just wanted chrome bumpers (for now)

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10-21-2002, 06:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
cpw2002 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Englewood, Fla Posts: 201	If you want more info on Mozilla try:http://www.mozilla.org/ For Netscape 7 users you can upgrade from Mozilla 1.01 to 1.1 from Netscape preferences. __________________ CPW 2002 4Runner SR5 V6 2WD/ECT Millennium Silver Metallic Just wanted chrome bumpers (for now)

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