"Hey You...Potty Mouth" enough already - Page 3

**aviator** · 01-22-2008, 08:33 AM

Wow! Wabbit knows all...
I got out my trusty latin/english dictionary and translated oris=face and verba=words but culumnae had me stumped but I did have the jist of where it was going... now I know...
Thanks Aviator

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***Corey*** · 10-01-2008, 02:40 PM

I hate to bump a very old thread, but it seems we have had a rash of posts as of late again that need to have some editing done to them on account of those who try to bypass the sensor and spell out the words in question.

This makes more work for staff when we already have plenty of work to do here.

**aviator** · 10-01-2008, 02:42 PM

I have'nt seen any really bad ones Corey... where are they hiding?

Tacoclimber · 10-01-2008, 02:46 PM

Not to jump on the wagon, but there's been a handful of "GD's" lately.

I know that many don't consider this offensive, but there are some of us that do. I've tried pointing it out in a non-confrontational way, but I still see it from time to time.

My knickers aren't in a bunch over it, but I appreciate not having to read it, FWIW.

fillsrunner4 · 10-01-2008, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtlinna3vze

i sure hope this is a joke....

Its DC. every written word by him should be ignored and

Love ya DC!

We all swear even if you think it you said it!

Ill try to stop on here cause i know you all hate it! Sometimes I get caught up in the moment and a * Bomb

is dropped

Sorry! ill try my best not to and play by the rules

**DeathCougar** · 10-01-2008, 03:53 PM

Yea, I should be banned. I'm teh worst evar!

I think GD is the worst of our worries. Besides, you can say it on the radio, so it can't be that bad

but I am not arguing here, as it does say in the rules no GD's.

What about the abbreviation GD? Can i say "GD" or "Emm Eff" instead of the actual words? Just wonderin

SC4Runner · 10-01-2008, 06:25 PM

I like to make chocolate, and send it to my friends.

You can call me a fudge packer.

4biker · 10-01-2008, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoclimber

Not to jump on the wagon, but there's been a handful of "GD's" lately.

I know that many don't consider this offensive, but there are some of us that do. I've tried pointing it out in a non-confrontational way, but I still see it from time to time.

My knickers aren't in a bunch over it, but I appreciate not having to read it, FWIW.

I agree. It's hard for us (people who don't appreciate vulgar vocabulary) to express that it's offensive without sounding like preachers. I personally think "GD" is much more offensive than the "F-word." I have acquaintances that use both in pretty much every sentence and I respect their right to do so, but it sure lacks a certain amount of class. It doesn't hurt my feelings, but I think it is vulgar. That's why it's called "cursing."

***Corey*** · 10-01-2008, 07:40 PM

I agree with you.
Now I do swear around friends and by myself if I am having a bad day

, but I never take the Lords name in vein.

I was brought up to not do that, and it irks me when I hear it.
Even on TV and in movies it pisses me off.

The other words in the movies I can live with.

**DeathCougar** · 10-01-2008, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey

I agree with you.
Now I do swear around friends and by myself if I am having a bad day

, but I never take the Lords name in vein.

I was brought up to not do that, and it irks me when I hear it.
Even on TV and in movies it pisses me off.

The other words in the movies I can live with.

So GD is not cool but "pisses" is?!

Btw, i don't think anyone has ever taken the "lords" name in "vein". Maybe in Vain....

Toyvana · 10-01-2008, 09:36 PM

Anyone see the South Park episode where Cartman freezes himself in the snow because he can't wait three weeks for the Wii to be released? He's unfrozen in the future where everyone is atheistic and instead of the GD they say "Oh my Science!" and "Science D.....!"

It's just a matter of opinion.

fillsrunner4 · 10-01-2008, 09:45 PM

Im offended more at pisses than GD I was brought up around religion too but dont personaly believe in it so the word does not hurt me in any way! if it hurts you Im sorry but its your offence taken to it when others may not take any at all!

I can understand why alot of people dont want the swearing on here(and obiding by the rules) Yes!

"My personal opinion" is that if you dont want to hear, say or read the word than ignore it! cause we live in a world now, good or bad that I cant walk down the street without hearing a so called "Vulger" (Its vulgar if interpurate it that way!) word every few minuets. Its sad but so true and I cant see it stopping ever in my lifetime here on earth! I will though stop here just cause of rules.

I have multiple thoughts about this entire thread! But I will play by the rules set from the beginning!

Just My opinion on the whole matter. you can agree or disagree take offence or whatever. I dont really care just my stand on it!

Issues · 10-01-2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fillsrunner4

Im offended more at pisses than GD I was brought up around religion too but dont personaly believe in it so the word does not hurt me in any way! if it hurts you Im sorry but its your offence taken to it when others may not take any at all!

I can understand why alot of people dont want the swearing on here(and obiding by the rules) Yes!

"My personal opinion" is that if you dont want to hear, say or read the word than ignore it! cause we live in a world now, good or bad that I cant walk down the street without hearing a so called "Vulger" (Its vulgar if interpurate it that way!) word every few minuets. Its sad but so true and I cant see it stopping ever in my lifetime here on earth! I will though stop here just cause of rules.

I have multiple thoughts about this entire thread! But I will play by the rules set from the beginning!

Just My opinion on the whole matter. you can agree or disagree take offence or whatever. I dont really care just my stand on it!

That was very well said. I let things slip out time to time. I aint perfect in no means. But i do feel that alot of peaple cant hold a conversation or even a sentence with out cussing these days. So i agree, keep it clean. But get the rigs DIRTY

Robert m · 10-02-2008, 05:20 AM

i know i do it sometimes on here and i try not too cause i know its the rules but, in real life i got a mouth like a sailor. although i do try not to curse around kids.
Lewis Black says pretty much how i feel 100%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFr6P2BtE3k

(dont watch if the "S" word offends you)

Toddski · 10-02-2008, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fillsrunner4

Im offended more at pisses than GD I was brought up around religion too but dont personaly believe in it so the word does not hurt me in any way! if it hurts you Im sorry but its your offence taken to it when others may not take any at all!
MY offense? Hmmmm...

I can understand why alot of people dont want the swearing on here(and obiding by the rules) Yes!

"My personal opinion" is that if you dont want to hear, say or read the word than ignore it! cause we live in a world now, good or bad that I cant walk down the street without hearing a so called "Vulger" (Its vulgar if interpurate it that way!) word every few minuets. Its sad but so true and I cant see it stopping ever in my lifetime here on earth! I will though stop here just cause of rules.
So your telling me that when i sign into Yotatech to do some research on my 4runner and my 12 year old son comes in the room that i need to lock down my computer. Someday i will hand the keys over to him. He already knows all about Yotatech and the values that are implemented. Its the worst thing being a parent and one of your kids comes home and asks why people are dropping F bombs and GD's. I DON'T want to hear it on this board so keep it at home.
I have multiple thoughts about this entire thread! But I will play by the rules set from the beginning!

Just My opinion on the whole matter. you can agree or disagree take offence or whatever. I dont really care just my stand on it!

.....

**aviator** · 10-02-2008, 07:48 AM

Before we start sniping at each other over what each of us finds offensive let's just stop now. The standard potty language is of course unacceptable and the GD thing bothers a lot of folks, myself I have no problem with it [though I try to make sure not to use it around kids], I have a few friends whom it bothers greatly so I try to avoid it there as well. I think if we all try to frame our speech around how we would speak in front of our grandparents no one will get "hurt".
of course some of us have grandparents who cuss like a marine drill instructor but you all know what I mean LOL...

**waskillywabbit** · 10-02-2008, 08:08 AM

It is specifically noted in the forum rules so personal offensiveness to different cursings and their levels is irrelevant. It is against the rules period.

Abide. Enforce. Or do away with it.

**DeathCougar** · 10-02-2008, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddski

So your telling me that when i sign into Yotatech to do some research on my 4runner and my 12 year old son comes in the room that i need to lock down my computer. Someday i will hand the keys over to him. He already knows all about Yotatech and the values that are implemented. Its the worst thing being a parent and one of your kids comes home and asks why people are dropping F bombs and GD's. I DON'T want to hear it on this board so keep it at home.
.....

Even if there was swearing allowed on YT, I don't think you need to be worried about your kids learning it on here. I learned to swear LONG before I ever logged onto pirate, and swearing is not allowed on TV, and my parents were careful not to swear around me.

Long and short though, its not allowed on YT, so don't think i am arguing that point. Rules are rules.

4biker · 10-02-2008, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fillsrunner4

Im offended more at pisses than GD I was brought up around religion too but dont personaly believe in it so the word does not hurt me in any way! if it hurts you Im sorry but its your offence taken to it when others may not take any at all!

I'm sorry, but that is the most reckless thing anyone can say - "I don't care, it doesn't hurt ME." I guess you would gladly break wind in a room full of hot girls because you don't mind the smell. That's the attitude that ruins reputations and relationships. I guess it doesn't matter what goes down, as long as it doesn't bother ME. It's unfortunate that you feel that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fillsrunner4

"My personal opinion" is that if you dont want to hear, say or read the word than ignore it! cause we live in a world now, good or bad that I cant walk down the street without hearing a so called "Vulger" (Its vulgar if interpurate it that way!) word every few minuets. Its sad but so true and I cant see it stopping ever in my lifetime here on earth! I will though stop here just cause of rules.

I have multiple thoughts about this entire thread! But I will play by the rules set from the beginning!

Just My opinion on the whole matter. you can agree or disagree take offence or whatever. I dont really care just my stand on it!

I think it's really comical that the people who would like to be able to swear on the forum are the ones getting offended by the people who don't. Do you find it offensive when people don't swear? Yes, it is my choice whether I ignore your offensive language, but wouldn't it be better for everyone not to put others in the position where they need to work to overcome you? I will tell you that if there wasn't a language policy, I absolutely would not frequent the forum at all except for necessary information. I prefer a PG forum to an R one any day - I suppose that makes me some sort of unrealistic Holier-Than-Thou. There's something mind-numbing about reading a 3-page thread that is filled with profanity, like on Pirate, or the Acura forum I am a member of (but don't frequent).

Look - I am not upset that people swear. You can come over to my house and swear all you want (as long as my wife isn't home), and I'll watch football with you and laugh at your jokes. I just think it's important that there is an understanding that not everyone wants to emulate the Osborn family, and that our language has ramifications in life. It's how we interact with each other, and it shows our level of respect for the person we're interacting with.

(btw, when "pisses" is perceived as more offensive than the "F" word, pop culture has taken a pretty bad turn)

**aviator** · 10-02-2008, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

It is specifically noted in the forum rules so personal offensiveness to different cursings and their levels is irrelevant. It is against the rules period.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathCougar

E
Long and short though, its not allowed on YT, so don't think i am arguing that point. Rules are rules.

Exactly the point I was trying to make guys and at the same time provide a guideline for everyone on what might be considered off-colour outside of the "standard" cuss words.

Tacoclimber · 10-02-2008, 10:24 AM

Having read through this thread again, I have a few thoughts...

It is true that offensiveness is relative, to some degree. It is true that in the society we inhabit, vulgarity is the norm, to a growing degree.

However, I do find it interesting that if I were to express certain personal views regarding particular social trends that were based on my theological beliefs, it is quite probable that I would be accused of offense. However, when expressing my own offense at certain words, words that are generally accepted to be offensive, there is an attitude taken by some of "just deal with it." My point of view is essentially not tolerated, when at the same time, I am told I need to tolerate other views that run counter to my own.

Why does the sword not swing both ways?

I understand the summation that Wabbit gave, and I think it suffices in expressing the point of the moderators of this forum, but at the same time, I find the broader contradiction interesting, and it seems that the direction of this thread has taken a course that has less to do with specific forum rules, and more about an interesting direction our society has taken, as well as discussion of what is offensive and what is not. That, in effect, is what I am speaking to.

**aviator** · 10-02-2008, 10:36 AM

I think CJ that what some people were saying is that cursing is now common place and that we should all just live with it. Not so much people's point of view being tolerated or not. Personally society may be going to "heck" in a hand-basket [lol] but we don't have to help it along the way.

I agree also that this thread seems to have drifted off topic. We may lock it down the arguement is becoming circular...

Tacoclimber · 10-02-2008, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aviator

I think CJ that what some people were saying is that cursing is now common place and that we should all just live with it. Not so much people's point of view being tolerated or not. Personally society may be going to "heck" in a hand-basket [lol] but we don't have to help it along the way.

I agree also that this thread seems to have drifted off topic. We may lock it down the arguement is becoming circular...

I sensed that it might be... I guess I just thought I'd throw my thoughts out there, in an attempt to pursue a healthy conversation, but in retrospect, I don't know if it is the right arena.

I do think that a discussion of the relativity of offensiveness within a forum must inevitably turn to the relativity of offensiveness in society in general, as a forum board often is simply a microcosm of that society.

That being said...

ocdropzone · 10-02-2008, 10:49 AM

Not sure how this thread got resurrected from the archives but here is my two cents on the matter:
YT tries to provide what I consider to be a family acceptable atmosphere. I like it when one of my kids over looks my shoulder to look at what some folks are doing to their trucks.

They are not allowed to look over my shoulder if I am on ttora.com or Pirate PBB. If someone feels the need to GD it, etc..try ttora, there is an accepted level of cussing there. If you feel the need to take it up a notch or two higher, you can do that on Pirate BB, the flip off smiley is considered a nice sign over there...

I really like the friendly atmosphere of YT...sure some of the same questions get asked 50x's a week and that gets kind of annoying: how do I fit 33's on my stock truck?..but that comes with the territory. The mod's on any forum have got it tough monitoring what is more than likely very time consuming and not even paid...Hat's off to them for the work they put in here...

saitotiktmdog · 10-02-2008, 11:14 AM

Oh you find my language offensive, just ignore it. Thats almost like saying, "does my second hand somke bother you, oh well just ignore it." Not only is excessive swearing offensive but it usually shows a lack of intelligence. Granted there are plenty of smart people I know that do swear, but it it rarely dominates there vocabulary. Using other adjectives makes one appear much more intelligent. So lets take this as an opportunity to add to our vocabulary and use more intelligent speach.

And also let me just say that I am not perfect and I do swear from time to time but usually only if I do something like smash my finger with a hammer or hurt myself etc or if I get really frusterated. It is not a part of my normal vocabulary.

10-01-2008, 02:40 PM	#52 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	I hate to bump a very old thread, but it seems we have had a rash of posts as of late again that need to have some editing done to them on account of those who try to bypass the sensor and spell out the words in question. This makes more work for staff when we already have plenty of work to do here. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

10-01-2008, 02:42 PM	#53 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,469	I have'nt seen any really bad ones Corey... where are they hiding? __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

10-01-2008, 02:46 PM	#54 (permalink)
Tacoclimber Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Between a rock and a hard place, AZ Posts: 3,713	Not to jump on the wagon, but there's been a handful of "GD's" lately. I know that many don't consider this offensive, but there are some of us that do. I've tried pointing it out in a non-confrontational way, but I still see it from time to time. My knickers aren't in a bunch over it, but I appreciate not having to read it, FWIW. __________________ CJ ...<>< 03 DC TRD Tacoma 4wd with a bunch of junk. SOLD 1964 Chevy Biscayne, 230 I6, lowered, satin black, old-school legit. Just wheel the stupid thing!!! But do it responsibly, ok? My band: Road Worn Saints

10-01-2008, 06:25 PM	#57 (permalink)
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10-01-2008, 07:40 PM	#59 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	I agree with you. Now I do swear around friends and by myself if I am having a bad day , but I never take the Lords name in vein. I was brought up to not do that, and it irks me when I hear it. Even on TV and in movies it pisses me off. The other words in the movies I can live with. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

10-01-2008, 09:36 PM	#61 (permalink)
Toyvana Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Godfrey, Illinois Posts: 928	Anyone see the South Park episode where Cartman freezes himself in the snow because he can't wait three weeks for the Wii to be released? He's unfrozen in the future where everyone is atheistic and instead of the GD they say "Oh my Science!" and "Science D.....!" It's just a matter of opinion.

10-01-2008, 09:45 PM	#62 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sammamish, wa Posts: 2,724	Im offended more at pisses than GD I was brought up around religion too but dont personaly believe in it so the word does not hurt me in any way! if it hurts you Im sorry but its your offence taken to it when others may not take any at all! I can understand why alot of people dont want the swearing on here(and obiding by the rules) Yes! "My personal opinion" is that if you dont want to hear, say or read the word than ignore it! cause we live in a world now, good or bad that I cant walk down the street without hearing a so called "Vulger" (Its vulgar if interpurate it that way!) word every few minuets. Its sad but so true and I cant see it stopping ever in my lifetime here on earth! I will though stop here just cause of rules. I have multiple thoughts about this entire thread! But I will play by the rules set from the beginning! Just My opinion on the whole matter. you can agree or disagree take offence or whatever. I dont really care just my stand on it! __________________ 94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 39" Iroks, Rear Leafswap, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, Chevy 4.3L V6, 5spd swap, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, Chopped, Bobbed and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Fillsrunner4 3.4crawler Build Thread Fillsrunner4.3 crawler (Part Two) build thread Last edited by fillsrunner4; 10-01-2008 at 09:48 PM.

10-02-2008, 07:48 AM	#66 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,469	Before we start sniping at each other over what each of us finds offensive let's just stop now. The standard potty language is of course unacceptable and the GD thing bothers a lot of folks, myself I have no problem with it [though I try to make sure not to use it around kids], I have a few friends whom it bothers greatly so I try to avoid it there as well. I think if we all try to frame our speech around how we would speak in front of our grandparents no one will get "hurt". of course some of us have grandparents who cuss like a marine drill instructor but you all know what I mean LOL... __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

10-02-2008, 08:08 AM	#67 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,548	It is specifically noted in the forum rules so personal offensiveness to different cursings and their levels is irrelevant. It is against the rules period. Abide. Enforce. Or do away with it. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

10-02-2008, 10:24 AM	#71 (permalink)
Tacoclimber Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Between a rock and a hard place, AZ Posts: 3,713	Having read through this thread again, I have a few thoughts... It is true that offensiveness is relative, to some degree. It is true that in the society we inhabit, vulgarity is the norm, to a growing degree. However, I do find it interesting that if I were to express certain personal views regarding particular social trends that were based on my theological beliefs, it is quite probable that I would be accused of offense. However, when expressing my own offense at certain words, words that are generally accepted to be offensive, there is an attitude taken by some of "just deal with it." My point of view is essentially not tolerated, when at the same time, I am told I need to tolerate other views that run counter to my own. Why does the sword not swing both ways? I understand the summation that Wabbit gave, and I think it suffices in expressing the point of the moderators of this forum, but at the same time, I find the broader contradiction interesting, and it seems that the direction of this thread has taken a course that has less to do with specific forum rules, and more about an interesting direction our society has taken, as well as discussion of what is offensive and what is not. That, in effect, is what I am speaking to. __________________ CJ ...<>< 03 DC TRD Tacoma 4wd with a bunch of junk. SOLD 1964 Chevy Biscayne, 230 I6, lowered, satin black, old-school legit. Just wheel the stupid thing!!! But do it responsibly, ok? My band: Road Worn Saints

10-02-2008, 10:36 AM	#72 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,469	I think CJ that what some people were saying is that cursing is now common place and that we should all just live with it. Not so much people's point of view being tolerated or not. Personally society may be going to "heck" in a hand-basket [lol] but we don't have to help it along the way. I agree also that this thread seems to have drifted off topic. We may lock it down the arguement is becoming circular... __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

10-02-2008, 10:49 AM	#74 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,705	Not sure how this thread got resurrected from the archives but here is my two cents on the matter: YT tries to provide what I consider to be a family acceptable atmosphere. I like it when one of my kids over looks my shoulder to look at what some folks are doing to their trucks. They are not allowed to look over my shoulder if I am on ttora.com or Pirate PBB. If someone feels the need to GD it, etc..try ttora, there is an accepted level of cussing there. If you feel the need to take it up a notch or two higher, you can do that on Pirate BB, the flip off smiley is considered a nice sign over there... I really like the friendly atmosphere of YT...sure some of the same questions get asked 50x's a week and that gets kind of annoying: how do I fit 33's on my stock truck?..but that comes with the territory. The mod's on any forum have got it tough monitoring what is more than likely very time consuming and not even paid...Hat's off to them for the work they put in here... __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

10-02-2008, 11:14 AM	#75 (permalink)
saitotiktmdog Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 679	Oh you find my language offensive, just ignore it. Thats almost like saying, "does my second hand somke bother you, oh well just ignore it." Not only is excessive swearing offensive but it usually shows a lack of intelligence. Granted there are plenty of smart people I know that do swear, but it it rarely dominates there vocabulary. Using other adjectives makes one appear much more intelligent. So lets take this as an opportunity to add to our vocabulary and use more intelligent speach. And also let me just say that I am not perfect and I do swear from time to time but usually only if I do something like smash my finger with a hammer or hurt myself etc or if I get really frusterated. It is not a part of my normal vocabulary. __________________ 1994 toyota 4x4. 22re turbo (sds em4, intercooler, steedspeed manifold, garrett t3) 4 inch procomp stage two lift front, t-bar crank(small), trail gear 4 inch rear lift with 6" shackles. ARB bull bar and warn winch, Quick lock rear, tru trac front 35x12.50 Pro-Comp Mud Terrains, 5.29 gears, snorkel, rock sliders Planned mods. , T-case gears, ditch ifs Beware the groove Man, its a shame when folks be throwin away a perfectly good white boy like that.

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