Ah Crap...I need glasses

Mohamed · 05-28-2004, 12:19 AM

I knew I had bad vision

...went to the doctor today and he starts out:

Doctor: Okay Mohamed, I need you to read that bottom line there

Me with a confused look:Uh Doc...I don't see a line, i just see a huge white screen

Doctor (as he changes screens):Okay how about this screen...can you see that

Me once agian with a confused look:I don't see a difference, did you do anything?

Doctor:Yah I changed lens...okay how about this one

Me:Nope

Doctor: Now?

Me: Nope

This goes on for about another four screens until one slide I vaguely could make out that there where 4 rows of something. And then on that lens screen he does a couple of fine tweeks until it looks right. So finally he writes up my prescription and then he puts on my head a pair of lens and tells me that's what it's going, to look like when I get my pair. I'll say this, it made things clear definitly, but it alters really badly the depth perceptions in my vision, and made things farther than what they really are.
Question: Is it supposed to do that? and if so, how the hell do you guys adjust for such, especially when driving?

I head downstairs to the Optometry sales after all was said and done, and bought a pair of el-cheapo $89 glasses because I want to see what I'm going to end up with as far as vision, but I might end up getting a different pair, but this depth perception vision is really concerning me, so I didn't want to spend like $250 for a pair of nice glasses just yet.

Comments please

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r0cky · 05-28-2004, 12:42 AM

I have glasses too ... even when my prescription stays the same if I get new frames, even that will change my depth perception! Sometimes at first it'll feel like you're on a boat.

But anyway, I would say that is absolutely normal - I've talked to many people who, when they get glasses, have the same experience. Slowly though, if you wear your glasses, you'll get used to it, and things will get back to normal. It just takes a little while for your eyes to get used to the change, but once they do you won't have any problems with your depth perception or anything.

ilion · 05-28-2004, 12:58 AM

Ow, my glasses!

superjoe83 · 05-28-2004, 01:05 AM

have you thought about contacts, i wore glasses through most of grade school and middle school, then i went and tried contacts, huge difference, they took a little time to get the feel to put them on your eye, but were worth it, they also take away most of that depth perception feeling your talking about, i havent wore glasses in a few years now, i cant even remember where they are

r0cky · 05-28-2004, 01:30 AM

i guess we should all be glad that we didn't have our glasses stapled on like Cartman!

Tacoma Dude · 05-28-2004, 01:48 AM

I'm *supposed* to have glasses but I haven't worn mine in 7 years.

SLC Punk · 05-28-2004, 06:07 AM

I tried wearing glasses but I it made me feel dizzy. I ended going with contacts in 8th grade and have been using them ever since. Some day I want to get lassik!!

shazaam · 05-28-2004, 06:23 AM

glasses since 3rd grade. Went to contacts for awhile. I still wear them occassionally ... but I just stick with glasses most of the time

**waskillywabbit** · 05-28-2004, 06:33 AM

Doc: Please read the smallest line that you can see on the eyechart?

Me: What eyechart?

My vision was like 20/450, but $3800 later and LASIK eye surgery my vision is 20/15, better than what is considered normal.

I wore glasses from 3rd grade to 8th grade until I got contacts and I wore contacts for the better part of 20 years. No more junk to lose, break, clean, worry about, my vision is AWESOME.

It sounds like your vision is like mine, forget glasses and contacts, look into LASIK. You'll never get the same vision corrected with lenses or contacts, especially perception, as you do with good "uncorrrected" vision, or with LASIK. Best $3800 I ever spent in my lift. I'd do it again in a heartbeat and spend twice that much to be able to see like I see now.

Good luck!

shazaam · 05-28-2004, 06:39 AM

research Lasik first .. they have some great new upgraded equipment and techniques. They even lowered the prices, and will finiance it for you. Its a really cool procedure to watch, takes about 5 min per eye. Most places will let you watch from behind a window, and they have monitors up as well.

But the risks are there, make sure your aware of them before you go in. I went in for a consultation on laser surgery, but decided against it. Its great for some, but its definitely not for everyone.

r0cky · 05-28-2004, 10:19 AM

and remember, Lasik is a relatively new procedure, so there are a lot of things they don't yet know about long-term issues. just research research research before you go.

shazaam · 05-28-2004, 11:03 AM

you want to hear the cool way they found out about lasik surgery ... it was in Russia (about 30-40 yrs ago), this kid with glasses was playing, and got hit in the face, and pieces of the glass landed in his eye, scratching it. after the pieces were removed, he could see better. No need for the glasses anymore, and from there they've made the procedure a bit less crude then getting smashed in the face to correct your vision. pretty cool, huh?

Scofco · 05-28-2004, 11:49 AM

I have a set of glasses kicking around somewhere

I've worn them 3 times since I got them.
8 years ago.

Mohamed · 05-28-2004, 12:51 PM

Contacts are still down the road, remember this is my first pair of glasses. But thank's for the idea. Lasik or whatever is...can wait, I have no money for something like that.

Tacoma Dude · 05-28-2004, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4route

and remember, Lasik is a relatively new procedure, so there are a lot of things they don't yet know about long-term issues. just research research research before you go.

I agree with this.
I would wait a good 10-20 years for possible long term side-affects

**waskillywabbit** · 05-29-2004, 08:13 AM

I didn't just go out and get my eyes cut on on a whim. I did my homework and the guy who lasered my eyes was from Emory Hospital in Atlanta and is one of the frontrunners in LASIK research. He has done more eyes than just about anybody in the country and frequently goes over seas and does it for free in clinics.

Yes, when I get older my eyes are going to get older just like yours and I'll probably need glasses to see and/or to read. So does about 95% of the senior adult population. All I know is that now I wake up in the morning and can turn over and actually see my wife's face and the alarm clock and my children's faces in the middle of the night without first having to put on my glasses or put in my contacts. I feel more than comfortable with my decision as I don't think it would be an approved procedure if it were a possibility for massive lawsuits on down the road.

Research LASIK and learn of the pros and cons. All I know is I once was blind and now I see.

Tacoma Dude · 05-29-2004, 10:47 AM

Hey Brian,

I've heard all sorts of rumors about flying having some affect on the eyes. Is that true?
I wouldn't think you'd just jump right into it, it's more of my paranoid nature to be suspect of a procedure that involves that kind of change

**waskillywabbit** · 05-29-2004, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma Dude

Hey Brian,

I've heard all sorts of rumors about flying having some affect on the eyes. Is that true?
I wouldn't think you'd just jump right into it, it's more of my paranoid nature to be suspect of a procedure that involves that kind of change

Yes, there are side effects but they were very temporary, just like with any surgery.

My eyes were so dry for about a month I bet I used 20 gallons of eye moisture drops!

Driving at night was kinda funky for about 60 days, kinda got the halo effect from headlights and street lights etc., but it went away.

I'd never been able to see on my own with my own eyes before so I don't know if anything abnormal happened, but it has been almost 5 years now and I AM VERY PLEASED!!!!

If you are weird about things poking in your eye and get queasy at being awake durinig a surgery, then you should think about not doing this one. Doesn't hurt, just kinda weird, but after wearing contacts 20 years it was no big deal.

Mohamed · 06-02-2004, 01:14 PM

Aaahhh...glasses really mess with you. I just got them today and you guys are right you can adapt to them as far as perception, but I just took them off, and the world is so freakin wierd, as if almost I almost feel dizzy from not wearing them (sort of speak).

Just call me now four eyes

kronicx · 06-02-2004, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdastg1

you want to hear the cool way they found out about lasik surgery ... it was in Russia (about 30-40 yrs ago), this kid with glasses was playing, and got hit in the face, and pieces of the glass landed in his eye, scratching it. after the pieces were removed, he could see better. No need for the glasses anymore, and from there they've made the procedure a bit less crude then getting smashed in the face to correct your vision. pretty cool, huh?

This sounds more like Radial Keratotomy. With LASIK, the surgeon cuts a flap in the stroma, then uses an excimer laser to remove material under the flap, where with RK the surgeon makes incisions in a radial pattern in the cornea. RK seems more consistent with glass getting broken in your eye. No doubt that further research into vision correction was a result however.

shazaam · 06-02-2004, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronicx

This sounds more like Radial Keratotomy. With LASIK, the surgeon cuts a flap in the stroma, then uses an excimer laser to remove material under the flap, where with RK the surgeon makes incisions in a radial pattern in the cornea. RK seems more consistent with glass getting broken in your eye. No doubt that further research into vision correction was a result however.

your absolutley right .. I guess I should have phrased my words a little better .... research into this whole field really intensified after that incident, and RK developed, and then from there lasik came into play ...

Henryv · 06-04-2004, 11:45 PM

Have you ever tried glasses with a lower prescription? I know that when I have on glasses with a higher prescription than I need I get that messed up depth perception. Wore glasses for about four years and each year my eyes got worse and worse. Now I wear contacts and my vision barely changes every year. I have slight astigmitism in one eye though so with contacts it is not completely clear but its good enough. Wish I could go lasik but cant afford it now and will wait a bit for it to really be perfected. Besides, arent your eyes supposed to fall out after 20 years if you used lasik? (Simpsons I think

)

05-28-2004, 01:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
superjoe83 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oregon City, Oregon Posts: 1,870	have you thought about contacts, i wore glasses through most of grade school and middle school, then i went and tried contacts, huge difference, they took a little time to get the feel to put them on your eye, but were worth it, they also take away most of that depth perception feeling your talking about, i havent wore glasses in a few years now, i cant even remember where they are __________________ - Joe 1984 SR5 4runner, 22re, 5-speed, chevy 63"s, rears up front custom pack, BBCS shocks, 2" BL, 5.29's, welded rear, Detroit in front, Longfields, IFS Rear, 39.5x13.50x15 IROK's, Marlin's High Steer, MC07 with stock cases, Marlin's cross member, tube bumper, Warn XD9000, Allied Beadlocks 1999 Taco 2.7 5-speed, LCE Header, Jardine 2.25 Cat-Back, 3" Downey Coilover, 33x13.5 Toyo MT's, ARB Bull Bar, Retrofitted Acura TL HID Projectors with 50W ballasts and 50W DL50 Philips 3900k bulbs

05-28-2004, 01:48 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,360	I'm supposed to have glasses but I haven't worn mine in 7 years. __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner

05-28-2004, 06:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
SLC Punk Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 5,875	I tried wearing glasses but I it made me feel dizzy. I ended going with contacts in 8th grade and have been using them ever since. Some day I want to get lassik!! __________________ -Travis 1997 4Runner SR5 V6 4X4 Supercharged Desert Dune SOLD :( 1992 Celica All Trac (AWD-Turbo) #223 of 271 US spec for 1992 FOR SALE 2005 Tundra Double Cab Limited 4X4 2.5" lift 265/70R17 Dueler Revo's 4Runner and Celica Webpage

05-28-2004, 06:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,057	glasses since 3rd grade. Went to contacts for awhile. I still wear them occassionally ... but I just stick with glasses most of the time __________________ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, and the lesson afterwards. <-- the artist formerly known as sdastg1 Last edited by sdastg1; 05-28-2004 at 06:40 AM.

05-28-2004, 06:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,546	Glasses Doc: Please read the smallest line that you can see on the eyechart? Me: What eyechart? My vision was like 20/450, but $3800 later and LASIK eye surgery my vision is 20/15, better than what is considered normal. I wore glasses from 3rd grade to 8th grade until I got contacts and I wore contacts for the better part of 20 years. No more junk to lose, break, clean, worry about, my vision is AWESOME. It sounds like your vision is like mine, forget glasses and contacts, look into LASIK. You'll never get the same vision corrected with lenses or contacts, especially perception, as you do with good "uncorrrected" vision, or with LASIK. Best $3800 I ever spent in my lift. I'd do it again in a heartbeat and spend twice that much to be able to see like I see now. Good luck! __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

05-28-2004, 12:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
r0cky Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 5,370	I have glasses too ... even when my prescription stays the same if I get new frames, even that will change my depth perception! Sometimes at first it'll feel like you're on a boat. But anyway, I would say that is absolutely normal - I've talked to many people who, when they get glasses, have the same experience. Slowly though, if you wear your glasses, you'll get used to it, and things will get back to normal. It just takes a little while for your eyes to get used to the change, but once they do you won't have any problems with your depth perception or anything.

05-28-2004, 12:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
ilion Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tustin, Ca. Posts: 306	Ow, my glasses!

05-28-2004, 01:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
r0cky Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 5,370	i guess we should all be glad that we didn't have our glasses stapled on like Cartman!

05-28-2004, 06:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,057	research Lasik first .. they have some great new upgraded equipment and techniques. They even lowered the prices, and will finiance it for you. Its a really cool procedure to watch, takes about 5 min per eye. Most places will let you watch from behind a window, and they have monitors up as well. But the risks are there, make sure your aware of them before you go in. I went in for a consultation on laser surgery, but decided against it. Its great for some, but its definitely not for everyone. __________________ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, and the lesson afterwards. <-- the artist formerly known as sdastg1 Last edited by sdastg1; 05-28-2004 at 11:03 AM.

05-28-2004, 10:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
r0cky Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 5,370	and remember, Lasik is a relatively new procedure, so there are a lot of things they don't yet know about long-term issues. just research research research before you go.

05-28-2004, 11:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,057	you want to hear the cool way they found out about lasik surgery ... it was in Russia (about 30-40 yrs ago), this kid with glasses was playing, and got hit in the face, and pieces of the glass landed in his eye, scratching it. after the pieces were removed, he could see better. No need for the glasses anymore, and from there they've made the procedure a bit less crude then getting smashed in the face to correct your vision. pretty cool, huh? __________________ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, and the lesson afterwards. <-- the artist formerly known as sdastg1

05-28-2004, 11:49 AM	#13 (permalink)
Scofco Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,577	I have a set of glasses kicking around somewhere I've worn them 3 times since I got them. 8 years ago. __________________

05-28-2004, 12:51 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mohamed Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Carmichael, CA Posts: 1,657	Contacts are still down the road, remember this is my first pair of glasses. But thank's for the idea. Lasik or whatever is...can wait, I have no money for something like that. __________________ 2002 Imperial Jade Mica Tundra 2005 Acura TSX 6MT Navi 2006 Suzuki GSX-R600 Pic's of my Tundra

05-29-2004, 08:13 AM	#16 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,546	Lasik I didn't just go out and get my eyes cut on on a whim. I did my homework and the guy who lasered my eyes was from Emory Hospital in Atlanta and is one of the frontrunners in LASIK research. He has done more eyes than just about anybody in the country and frequently goes over seas and does it for free in clinics. Yes, when I get older my eyes are going to get older just like yours and I'll probably need glasses to see and/or to read. So does about 95% of the senior adult population. All I know is that now I wake up in the morning and can turn over and actually see my wife's face and the alarm clock and my children's faces in the middle of the night without first having to put on my glasses or put in my contacts. I feel more than comfortable with my decision as I don't think it would be an approved procedure if it were a possibility for massive lawsuits on down the road. Research LASIK and learn of the pros and cons. All I know is I once was blind and now I see. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

05-29-2004, 10:47 AM	#17 (permalink)
Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,360	Hey Brian, I've heard all sorts of rumors about flying having some affect on the eyes. Is that true? I wouldn't think you'd just jump right into it, it's more of my paranoid nature to be suspect of a procedure that involves that kind of change __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner

06-02-2004, 01:14 PM	#19 (permalink)
Mohamed Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Carmichael, CA Posts: 1,657	Aaahhh...glasses really mess with you. I just got them today and you guys are right you can adapt to them as far as perception, but I just took them off, and the world is so freakin wierd, as if almost I almost feel dizzy from not wearing them (sort of speak). Just call me now four eyes __________________ 2002 Imperial Jade Mica Tundra 2005 Acura TSX 6MT Navi 2006 Suzuki GSX-R600 Pic's of my Tundra Last edited by Mohamed; 06-02-2004 at 01:15 PM.

06-04-2004, 11:45 PM	#22 (permalink)
Henryv Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 726	Have you ever tried glasses with a lower prescription? I know that when I have on glasses with a higher prescription than I need I get that messed up depth perception. Wore glasses for about four years and each year my eyes got worse and worse. Now I wear contacts and my vision barely changes every year. I have slight astigmitism in one eye though so with contacts it is not completely clear but its good enough. Wish I could go lasik but cant afford it now and will wait a bit for it to really be perfected. Besides, arent your eyes supposed to fall out after 20 years if you used lasik? (Simpsons I think ) __________________ -1998 4runner limited 4wd- Ugh sucks to be poor on this board My 4runner

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