T-Max winches?

2wptaco · 06-13-2007, 01:10 PM

Greetings,
I am looking for any information folks might have on the T-Max EW-9000W Outback Series winches. I have looked into them a bit and found a little more bag for my buck. My old truck had the Warn 8000 on it, but I am having a bit of trouble spending that much again.

The EW-9000W will be installed into the ARB bumper. I have sent emails to both companies and no one has wrote back to let me know if they will work together.

Thanks,
2wptaco

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mastacox · 06-13-2007, 01:13 PM

[opens can of worms]

Am I correct in assuming this is a 2WD Pre-Runner Tacoma you're putting said winch on?

westy44runner · 06-13-2007, 01:32 PM

In my experience with various winches of different brands, the cheaper ones are always really slow. If the vehicle/winch is just being used for pulling vehicles out of the mud or other places where speed isnt an issue then that winch will be fine. Sometimes when you are winching on the 4+ rated trails it is nice to have a fast winch, especially for pulls up waterfalls and other inclines. I've found it to be much safer.

Stay away from the Harbor Frieght, and other real cheap winches though.

2wptaco · 06-13-2007, 01:32 PM

Hi Brian,
Sorry...it is a 4dr '06 Tacoma TRD 4X4. Has an OME lift.

Thanks,
2wptaco

2wptaco · 06-13-2007, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westy44runner

In my experience with various winches of different brands, the cheaper ones are always really slow. If the vehicle/winch is just being used for pulling vehicles out of the mud or other places where speed isnt an issue then that winch will be fine. Sometimes when you are winching on the 4+ rated trails it is nice to have a fast winch, especially for pulls up waterfalls and other inclines. I've found it to be much safer.

Stay away from the Harbor Frieght, and other real cheap winches though.

Thanks Westy44runner. I am just looking a good winch that will get me out of a jam. I am not much on the technical trails. I live in an area that is 60 miles down a dirt road. Monsoon season can be muddy and just need the extra insurance.

Thanks,
2wptaco

westy44runner · 06-13-2007, 02:10 PM

Another option that you may want to look into getting a Warn winch second hand. Most people that own winches rarely use them, or maybe they are used a handful of times a year and still in great condition.

PHX area -
Warn 8k - http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pts/351065744.html

mastacox · 06-13-2007, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2wptaco

Hi Brian,
Sorry...it is a 4dr '06 Tacoma TRD 4X4. Has an OME lift.

Thanks,
2wptaco

*Whew*

I was afraid I was going to have to flame you incessantly for putting an ARB bumper and winch on a 2wd Tacoma... your screenname kind of suggests 2-wheel-prerunner-taco is all.

Carry on

nc994run · 06-13-2007, 03:05 PM

The site i linked has Warn M8000's for 550 shipped http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/s...arnWinch06.htm

2wptaco · 06-13-2007, 03:41 PM

Thanks for all the good information. I guess it is hard to beat a Warn...no one is using the T-Max?

Thanks again,
2wptaco

4biker · 06-13-2007, 04:22 PM

Sorry to chime in if I don't have any direct experience with this. Try Rocky Road Outfitters, Glenn Wakefield - he's pretty knowledgeable, but mostly in jeeps and Sami's He deals ARB and T-Max so they should know what's up. The site is www.rocky-road.com Good luck and please post your results.

chimmike · 06-13-2007, 05:18 PM

winchdepot.com is where I got my m8000. I know a couple people that swear by mile markers, but I can't figure out why they say it's better if it costs $300 less. That doesn't make sense to me, because in my experience, you get what you pay for with car gadgets!

nc994run · 06-13-2007, 05:46 PM

I got a Mile Marker 8000 lb winch before getting my Warn M8000. The mile marker broke the first time i used it, and i wasn't even near its capacity. I was trying to winch a 2WD Chevy S-10 (no lift, or larger tires). I got the Mile marker from Costco for $475ish so $550 for the Warn was well worth it. It hasn't let me down since

rrmike · 06-14-2007, 03:11 PM

I have heard good things about the T-maxx winches over on Pirate and have yet to hear any negative comments. I believe they have a bigger motor that Warn winches. 5.xhp vs warn with 4.6hp I think.

That being said my truck has a Warn 9.5ti on it

Q-DawgVFR · 06-18-2007, 05:21 PM

My neighbor has a T max on his crazy modified Jeep Grand Cherokee. It is very nice, works well, and I've heard nothing bad about them. They are supposed to be pretty high quality from what I understand. I think they are just less known over here; perhaps they are cheaper to try to break into the market?? I wouldn't dismiss them just because most people use something else. Some of the best deals I've gotten (generally speaking) are buying brands that are high quality but not well known.

drguitarum2005 · 06-18-2007, 05:43 PM

one of my friends swears by them and insists theyre more waterproof than warns. i dont know if this is true or not, but quality wise, i have heard good things

Q-DawgVFR · 06-19-2007, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drguitarum2005

one of my friends swears by them and insists theyre more waterproof than warns. i dont know if this is true or not, but quality wise, i have heard good things

My pal next door was told they are fully submersible. He's never tried to dunk his and test the claim.....

Diesel_Freak · 06-22-2007, 03:47 AM

I used a few different T-max's in Australia and they are about the best winch I've ever used. The new high end ones are even nicer, all VERY durable construction. Warn makesa a mighty fine winch but T-max's are just as tough.

Edit-

And yeah the new high zoot models are fully submersible, there's no solenoid I think? I can't remember how they use instead, but yes they are fully submersible.

xcmountain80 · 06-22-2007, 05:22 AM

I like mine, I bought it because I needed a winch and for $599 shipped I couldnt beat it. I know what winches not to buy "Ramsey, Mile Marker, etc" I needed a Warn equivalent and it has yet to let me down.

Aaron

tc · 06-22-2007, 06:51 AM

How is the line speed on the Tmaxx winches?

I've gotten spoiled by Molly's 9.5ti...

xcmountain80 · 06-22-2007, 07:00 AM

I have a 9.5I in addition to the T-Max 9000 outback and think the line speed is faster on the Warn, though the T-max doesnt seem to slow down much even with a load on. Though this is an opinion only with no supporting documentation. So the T-Max line speed isnt bad but I think the Warn is faster.

Aaron

**Lysmachia** · 06-22-2007, 11:00 AM

WEell it is nice to know that many think the T-max is a good buy - so I will pass that on whenever others ask. I do love my 9.5ti but in all reality I don;t always need the turbo.. LOL (A Turbo Winch - now *that's* an oxymoron!)

FredTJ · 06-23-2007, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nc994run

I got a Mile Marker 8000 lb winch before getting my Warn M8000. The mile marker broke the first time i used it, and i wasn't even near its capacity. I was trying to winch a 2WD Chevy S-10 (no lift, or larger tires). I got the Mile marker from Costco for $475ish so $550 for the Warn was well worth it. It hasn't let me down since

Y'all that are running 8000lb winches are most likely running too light of a winch.

Fred

Q-DawgVFR · 07-03-2007, 04:21 AM

Quick update: Witnessed my pal's Heep on its first (since its latest morphing) off road punishment session.

His T-max did double duty, as the other Heepist had his winch pile up early in the day.

It pulled all day long, (tested its submersible claims, even), and gave no trouble.

A circuit breaker (my pal hates fuses) for the winch kept popping once in a while, but apparently it was marginally sized to start with....

Its line speed was very good, too.

Having seen it in action now, I'd buy one without a second's hesitation.

06-13-2007, 01:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
mastacox Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Los Alamos, NM Posts: 2,650	[opens can of worms] Am I correct in assuming this is a 2WD Pre-Runner Tacoma you're putting said winch on? __________________ Brian 1998 4Runner SR5

06-13-2007, 01:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
westy44runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 967	In my experience with various winches of different brands, the cheaper ones are always really slow. If the vehicle/winch is just being used for pulling vehicles out of the mud or other places where speed isnt an issue then that winch will be fine. Sometimes when you are winching on the 4+ rated trails it is nice to have a fast winch, especially for pulls up waterfalls and other inclines. I've found it to be much safer. Stay away from the Harbor Frieght, and other real cheap winches though. __________________ '86 Toy Flatbed with a few modifications

06-13-2007, 01:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
2wptaco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern Arizona Posts: 25	Hi Brian, Sorry...it is a 4dr '06 Tacoma TRD 4X4. Has an OME lift. Thanks, 2wptaco __________________ 2wptaco, 06 Toyota Tacoma 4dr TRD Off-Road 4X4 ARB Winch Bumper Old Man Emu Suspension Black Softopper

06-13-2007, 02:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
westy44runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 967	Another option that you may want to look into getting a Warn winch second hand. Most people that own winches rarely use them, or maybe they are used a handful of times a year and still in great condition. PHX area - Warn 8k - http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pts/351065744.html __________________ '86 Toy Flatbed with a few modifications

06-13-2007, 03:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
nc994run Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: blacksburg,va for school chapel hill, nc for home Posts: 982	The site i linked has Warn M8000's for 550 shipped http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/s...arnWinch06.htm __________________ Rob 1999 4Runner Limited 4x4, retrofitted e-locker/ ARB front locker with 4.88 Precision Gears, Tundra/LC lift, 2" 4Crawler BL, Nitto Mud Grappler 35's on 16x8, Marlin sliders, TJM T-15, Warn M8000 w/ synthetic line, Mad Mike's custom rear Bumper, deckplate and ISR mods, Vortex Muffler, custom made tube doors pictures here I support Banned Neliconcept

06-13-2007, 03:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
2wptaco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern Arizona Posts: 25	Thanks for all the good information. I guess it is hard to beat a Warn...no one is using the T-Max? Thanks again, 2wptaco __________________ 2wptaco, 06 Toyota Tacoma 4dr TRD Off-Road 4X4 ARB Winch Bumper Old Man Emu Suspension Black Softopper

06-13-2007, 04:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
4biker Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SLC, Utah Posts: 296	Sorry to chime in if I don't have any direct experience with this. Try Rocky Road Outfitters, Glenn Wakefield - he's pretty knowledgeable, but mostly in jeeps and Sami's He deals ARB and T-Max so they should know what's up. The site is www.rocky-road.com Good luck and please post your results. __________________ 1997 4Runner Ltd, E-locker, OME 881/N91SC + 906/N86C, 265/75/16 Yokohama Geolander AT+II's, 1000w inverter, dual batt setup, very custom cargo platform My Profile 1998 Rocky Mountain Element TO (Canada Red)

06-13-2007, 05:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
chimmike Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SRQ, FL Posts: 1,529	winchdepot.com is where I got my m8000. I know a couple people that swear by mile markers, but I can't figure out why they say it's better if it costs $300 less. That doesn't make sense to me, because in my experience, you get what you pay for with car gadgets! __________________ '03 350z Turbocharged (totalled :( ) '04 Honda Accord LX V6 (first bone stock car I've owned in a while) 94 4runner SR5 4x4, 31x10.5's, SAS, Warn M8000 winch, Allpro bumper, Summit (K&N FIPK in different wrapping) CAI, flowmaster muff, 5.29's FOR SALE! '07 Harley-Davidson XL1200c, rush slip-ons

06-13-2007, 05:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
nc994run Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: blacksburg,va for school chapel hill, nc for home Posts: 982	I got a Mile Marker 8000 lb winch before getting my Warn M8000. The mile marker broke the first time i used it, and i wasn't even near its capacity. I was trying to winch a 2WD Chevy S-10 (no lift, or larger tires). I got the Mile marker from Costco for $475ish so $550 for the Warn was well worth it. It hasn't let me down since __________________ Rob 1999 4Runner Limited 4x4, retrofitted e-locker/ ARB front locker with 4.88 Precision Gears, Tundra/LC lift, 2" 4Crawler BL, Nitto Mud Grappler 35's on 16x8, Marlin sliders, TJM T-15, Warn M8000 w/ synthetic line, Mad Mike's custom rear Bumper, deckplate and ISR mods, Vortex Muffler, custom made tube doors pictures here I support Banned Neliconcept

06-14-2007, 03:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
rrmike Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 62	I have heard good things about the T-maxx winches over on Pirate and have yet to hear any negative comments. I believe they have a bigger motor that Warn winches. 5.xhp vs warn with 4.6hp I think. That being said my truck has a Warn 9.5ti on it

06-18-2007, 05:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
Q-DawgVFR Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Olds, Alberta, CANADA Posts: 195	My neighbor has a T max on his crazy modified Jeep Grand Cherokee. It is very nice, works well, and I've heard nothing bad about them. They are supposed to be pretty high quality from what I understand. I think they are just less known over here; perhaps they are cheaper to try to break into the market?? I wouldn't dismiss them just because most people use something else. Some of the best deals I've gotten (generally speaking) are buying brands that are high quality but not well known. __________________ Born with a steering wheel in my hands and gasoline in my veins........

06-18-2007, 05:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
drguitarum2005 Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Houston (home), Atlanta (school), Cincinnati (work) Posts: 2,235	one of my friends swears by them and insists theyre more waterproof than warns. i dont know if this is true or not, but quality wise, i have heard good things __________________ -David 2000 Taco TRD Access Cab v6 \| 5spd \| 33" BFG A/Ts \| 33" PC Mud Terrains \| OME 882's \| Bilstein HD struts front \| Rancho shocks rear \| Chevy 63" leaf spring swap \| Custom sliders \| Custom front bumper \|3" BL \| U-Bolt flip \| Flowmaster exhaust \| Kenwood Speakers \| Grey Wire Mod \| Aux. Reverse Lights \| Deckplate Mod \| Lots of lights Pictures

06-22-2007, 03:47 AM	#17 (permalink)
Diesel_Freak Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PDX, Oregon Posts: 420	I used a few different T-max's in Australia and they are about the best winch I've ever used. The new high end ones are even nicer, all VERY durable construction. Warn makesa a mighty fine winch but T-max's are just as tough. Edit- And yeah the new high zoot models are fully submersible, there's no solenoid I think? I can't remember how they use instead, but yes they are fully submersible. __________________ Project 4Rescue: 89 Gen1 22RE 5spd 4Runner...Marlin DOM rear bumper, OME rear/ BJ spacer front, OME shocks all around. Lucas Pro series HD clutch: DONE!!! BRAND SPANKIN NEW 22RE DONE!!!!! Firefighters: Cause somebody's got to step up and do it... RIP: Charles Edward DelaForest: Born Sept 78 - Murdered May 05 I miss you Brother Last edited by Diesel_Freak; 06-22-2007 at 03:49 AM.

06-22-2007, 05:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
xcmountain80 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 1,880	I like mine, I bought it because I needed a winch and for $599 shipped I couldnt beat it. I know what winches not to buy "Ramsey, Mile Marker, etc" I needed a Warn equivalent and it has yet to let me down. Aaron

06-22-2007, 06:51 AM	#19 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,375	How is the line speed on the Tmaxx winches? I've gotten spoiled by Molly's 9.5ti... __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

06-22-2007, 07:00 AM	#20 (permalink)
xcmountain80 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 1,880	I have a 9.5I in addition to the T-Max 9000 outback and think the line speed is faster on the Warn, though the T-max doesnt seem to slow down much even with a load on. Though this is an opinion only with no supporting documentation. So the T-Max line speed isnt bad but I think the Warn is faster. Aaron

07-03-2007, 04:21 AM	#23 (permalink)
Q-DawgVFR Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Olds, Alberta, CANADA Posts: 195	Quick update: Witnessed my pal's Heep on its first (since its latest morphing) off road punishment session. His T-max did double duty, as the other Heepist had his winch pile up early in the day. It pulled all day long, (tested its submersible claims, even), and gave no trouble. A circuit breaker (my pal hates fuses) for the winch kept popping once in a while, but apparently it was marginally sized to start with.... Its line speed was very good, too. Having seen it in action now, I'd buy one without a second's hesitation. __________________ Born with a steering wheel in my hands and gasoline in my veins........

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