Suspension Lift Question

0101 · 06-26-2008, 06:11 PM

Do I really need to buy a full lift kit for an 84/84 truck? Or can I just buy some new marlin (or any other nice brand) leaf springs, and some bilstein 5100 shocks?

That would save me a bunch of money.

Sorry if this is a n00b question...

Thanks!

Blizzard · 06-26-2008, 10:23 PM

AFAIK you'll have to weld new spring hangers on the rear because the rear leafs are longer.

In the front you'll be fine but you won't have hi-steer.

You could make it in parts, now the leafs and shocks, later the hi-steer and IFS steering box, etc...

David

4Crawler · 06-27-2008, 08:09 AM

Define what you mean by "full lift kit" and how much lift you are looking for.
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_suspension.shtml

0101 · 06-27-2008, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Crawler

Define what you mean by "full lift kit" and how much lift you are looking for.
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_suspension.shtml

Full lift kit = http://www.allprooffroad.com/index.p...ask=view&id=54

4Crawler · 06-27-2008, 10:56 AM

If you go with a mild 2"-4" lift and stick to stock length springs, you can get by with springs and shocks. If you want more lift or a higher performance setup, then longer springs, new hangers/shackles, shock mounts, etc. (i.e. a full lift kit) are likely needed.

0101 · 06-27-2008, 10:22 PM

What are some good springs that will fit the stock mounts?

ChickN · 06-28-2008, 05:35 PM

i just put on a 3 inch springs 2 inch shackles fron and rear w/ pro craps and 35s and i extended the brake lines using 2wd rear brake lines from the junk yard and she wheels just fine.....w/o hi steer, gearing, etc. you limiting the performance of your rig tho! i just wanted to get her up tho...im gunna finish her later tho!

20twinz · 07-01-2008, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChickN

i just put on a 3 inch springs 2 inch shackles fron and rear w/ pro craps and 35s and i extended the brake lines using 2wd rear brake lines from the junk yard and she wheels just fine.....w/o hi steer, gearing, etc. you limiting the performance of your rig tho! i just wanted to get her up tho...im gunna finish her later tho!

So I assume the rear lines on a 2wd are longer?
Did you use them front and back on yours or just back?

ChickN · 07-02-2008, 07:56 PM

correct...i put them on the front and back onto the exsisting lines thus making them twice as long! almost a little to long but very cheap way to do it!!!

06-26-2008, 06:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
0101 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 37	Suspension Lift Question Do I really need to buy a full lift kit for an 84/84 truck? Or can I just buy some new marlin (or any other nice brand) leaf springs, and some bilstein 5100 shocks? That would save me a bunch of money. Sorry if this is a n00b question... Thanks!

06-26-2008, 10:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 875	AFAIK you'll have to weld new spring hangers on the rear because the rear leafs are longer. In the front you'll be fine but you won't have hi-steer. You could make it in parts, now the leafs and shocks, later the hi-steer and IFS steering box, etc... David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35x12.5x15 M/T's and too many things more to write...

06-27-2008, 08:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,288	Define what you mean by "full lift kit" and how much lift you are looking for. http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_suspension.shtml __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs. r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

06-27-2008, 10:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,288	If you go with a mild 2"-4" lift and stick to stock length springs, you can get by with springs and shocks. If you want more lift or a higher performance setup, then longer springs, new hangers/shackles, shock mounts, etc. (i.e. a full lift kit) are likely needed. __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs. r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

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06-27-2008, 10:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
0101 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 37	What are some good springs that will fit the stock mounts?

06-28-2008, 05:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
ChickN Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 46	i just put on a 3 inch springs 2 inch shackles fron and rear w/ pro craps and 35s and i extended the brake lines using 2wd rear brake lines from the junk yard and she wheels just fine.....w/o hi steer, gearing, etc. you limiting the performance of your rig tho! i just wanted to get her up tho...im gunna finish her later tho!

07-02-2008, 07:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
ChickN Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 46	correct...i put them on the front and back onto the exsisting lines thus making them twice as long! almost a little to long but very cheap way to do it!!!

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