perfect winching setup - Page 2

steelhead · 03-02-2006, 03:57 PM

The new warn looks very nice but is 50' of cable enough in most situations?

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northfacer581 · 03-02-2006, 04:19 PM

well like i said, im no expert....but my opinion on that:

-the farther the line is out, the less powerful the pull....so....maybe the idea is, that most people dont use that extra? i dont know...just trying to rationalize

tc · 03-02-2006, 05:55 PM

Actually - the more line out, the stronger the pull. When rockcrawling, you have anchor points relatively close and are on the clock, so don't want to take the time to spool all that out to get max pull.

HarrisonP · 03-02-2006, 05:57 PM

Aren't winches rated with max power with only a few wraps on the spool? The more line is out, the more power it has, but the slower it goes?

Edit: tc you got that while I was typing :pat:

4rnr · 03-02-2006, 09:00 PM

The more line is out, the less leverage the ankor has on the drum, therefore the more power you have. Think of it as tire size, the larger diameter tire the more torque it takes to spin it as compared to a smaller tire.

BTW, I have am HS9500i I love it its a freakin beast, its probably over kill. I was going to get an m8000, but at the last second I guy on this board posted a complete hs9500i for sale with all the accesories, used once to lift a man out of a sewer, for 450 shipped!!! I couldnt pass that up.

Jeffires · 03-02-2006, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4rnr

used once to lift a man out of a sewer, for 450 shipped!!! I couldnt pass that up.

That's a hell of a deal- I'd replace my M8000 for that!

northfacer581 · 03-03-2006, 05:00 PM

seriously! maybe ill have the same luck...

BruceTS · 03-03-2006, 06:19 PM

another note the M8000 is very loud compared to the HS9500

tc · 03-04-2006, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelhead

The new warn looks very nice but is 50' of cable enough in most situations?

Really, it should be. Remember, you only need enough line for the distance you need to PULL - not the distance to the anchor. You can make up that with extra cable, straps, chain, etc. The shorter spool length makes it easier to get full power out of the winch and saves a lot of weight.

northfacer581 · 03-06-2006, 03:08 PM

ok well i think ive decided on one....

i found a deal on one on nc4x4.com....its an xd9000i for 600 bucks gently used. my question is....will it fit inside my tjm15? the top of the winch has a big gray part on it....can this be removed?

00Runner · 03-06-2006, 08:26 PM

Your out of luck with a winch with an integrated selenoid like the xd9000i (that's what the 'i' stands for. You need one without it to fit a TJM or ARB bumper without modification.

amorphous · 03-10-2006, 08:07 AM

so what is the run down on winches that will fit the TJMs?

aaron

westy44runner · 03-10-2006, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amorphous

so what is the run down on winches that will fit the TJMs?

aaron

They are rated up to a 9500lb winch. Any winch with a seperate solenoid box should work fine.

northfacer581 · 03-10-2006, 11:31 AM

so i just bought a warn tabor 9000 for 500 shipped.....pics to come as soon as it arrives and gets put in.

SLC97SR5 · 03-10-2006, 12:10 PM

I installed my Warn 9500 XP into the TJM T-17 this weekend and it was pure bolt in. I had to clock the clutch 2 allen holes to get the lever to line up and I also cut and re-welded my clutch lever 180* so free spool would not hit the grill when selected.

SLC97SR5 · 03-10-2006, 12:16 PM

so what is the run down on winches that will fit the TJMs?

aaron

I'm not sure what all fits but the way I found out was by going to the WARN site and looking up the 4 bolt mounting measurments and comparing it to the TJM/ARB center section. Ex: the M8000 is known to fit so any winch with the same dimensions will also fit assuming it is a remote mounted control box. The only other limiting factor would be the overall length, my TJM has plenty of room for the 9500xp but I understand the ARB's are tight.

amorphous · 03-10-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLC97SR5

I'm not sure what all fits but the way I found out was by going to the WARN site and looking up the 4 bolt mounting measurments and comparing it to the TJM/ARB center section. Ex: the M8000 is known to fit so any winch with the same dimensions will also fit assuming it is a remote mounted control box. The only other limiting factor would be the overall length, my TJM has plenty of room for the 9500xp but I understand the ARB's are tight.

cool, that makes sense, good thinkin!

and I was wondering what to do about that engagement lever - what's the solution - reach in and up?

northfacer- you'll have to fill us in on how the tabor 9k works for ya

aaron

northfacer581 · 03-10-2006, 09:56 PM

yea im curious myself. its go the 1 year limited, so i should be alright. i wont be using it much, and ive already purchased warn's winch accessory kit (snatch block, straps, shackle....) so im good to go!

me and my jeep buddy already plan to go out and test it out...of course he'll be the one needing the winch!

03-02-2006, 04:19 PM	#27 (permalink)
northfacer581 Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ASU in Boone....Charlotte is hometown Posts: 994	well like i said, im no expert....but my opinion on that: -the farther the line is out, the less powerful the pull....so....maybe the idea is, that most people dont use that extra? i dont know...just trying to rationalize __________________ -Andy 99 4runner 5speed Lift: 3" revtek & 2" body; swaybar discos; diff drop Performance: TRD s/c & 7th injector kit, deckplate closed, elbow removed, TMC 1.1, lock-rite in rear Protection: tjm15 w/ tabor 9k, custom sliders Shoes: 305/70/16 nitto terra graps on 16x8 helo maxx 6's Stuff: lots of lights on the surco, yakima big powderhound right now, shackle hangers, sony head unit, aux fuse box, full time power outlets, seat covers, and home of the herculiner mod

03-02-2006, 05:55 PM	#28 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,372	Actually - the more line out, the stronger the pull. When rockcrawling, you have anchor points relatively close and are on the clock, so don't want to take the time to spool all that out to get max pull. __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

03-02-2006, 05:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
HarrisonP Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 309	Aren't winches rated with max power with only a few wraps on the spool? The more line is out, the more power it has, but the slower it goes? Edit: tc you got that while I was typing :pat: __________________ "Live and learn, Die and forget it all" 1996 4Runner SR5 V6 4x4 Lifted, Locked, and Armored Last edited by HarrisonP; 03-02-2006 at 05:59 PM.

03-02-2006, 09:00 PM	#30 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	The more line is out, the less leverage the ankor has on the drum, therefore the more power you have. Think of it as tire size, the larger diameter tire the more torque it takes to spin it as compared to a smaller tire. BTW, I have am HS9500i I love it its a freakin beast, its probably over kill. I was going to get an m8000, but at the last second I guy on this board posted a complete hs9500i for sale with all the accesories, used once to lift a man out of a sewer, for 450 shipped!!! I couldnt pass that up. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

03-03-2006, 05:00 PM	#32 (permalink)
northfacer581 Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ASU in Boone....Charlotte is hometown Posts: 994	seriously! maybe ill have the same luck... __________________ -Andy 99 4runner 5speed Lift: 3" revtek & 2" body; swaybar discos; diff drop Performance: TRD s/c & 7th injector kit, deckplate closed, elbow removed, TMC 1.1, lock-rite in rear Protection: tjm15 w/ tabor 9k, custom sliders Shoes: 305/70/16 nitto terra graps on 16x8 helo maxx 6's Stuff: lots of lights on the surco, yakima big powderhound right now, shackle hangers, sony head unit, aux fuse box, full time power outlets, seat covers, and home of the herculiner mod

03-03-2006, 06:19 PM	#33 (permalink)
BruceTS Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,317	another note the M8000 is very loud compared to the HS9500

03-06-2006, 03:08 PM	#35 (permalink)
northfacer581 Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ASU in Boone....Charlotte is hometown Posts: 994	ok well i think ive decided on one.... i found a deal on one on nc4x4.com....its an xd9000i for 600 bucks gently used. my question is....will it fit inside my tjm15? the top of the winch has a big gray part on it....can this be removed? __________________ -Andy 99 4runner 5speed Lift: 3" revtek & 2" body; swaybar discos; diff drop Performance: TRD s/c & 7th injector kit, deckplate closed, elbow removed, TMC 1.1, lock-rite in rear Protection: tjm15 w/ tabor 9k, custom sliders Shoes: 305/70/16 nitto terra graps on 16x8 helo maxx 6's Stuff: lots of lights on the surco, yakima big powderhound right now, shackle hangers, sony head unit, aux fuse box, full time power outlets, seat covers, and home of the herculiner mod

03-06-2006, 08:26 PM	#36 (permalink)
00Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Menlo Park, CA Posts: 722	Your out of luck with a winch with an integrated selenoid like the xd9000i (that's what the 'i' stands for. You need one without it to fit a TJM or ARB bumper without modification. __________________ - Brad 2000 4Runner SR5 4x4 5spd 3" Revtek spacer, ARB RD-90 front \| 3.5" Downey coils, E-locker rear \| 285/75 16 BFG M/T \| TJM T-17 \| RB Sliderz \| 1.5" RB BL \| BudBuilt skid \| 4.30s \| SS Rear Bumper onetruth

03-10-2006, 08:07 AM	#37 (permalink)
amorphous Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 839	so what is the run down on winches that will fit the TJMs? aaron __________________ 98 4runner sr5 33"s and locked with the usual suspects

03-10-2006, 11:31 AM	#39 (permalink)
northfacer581 Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ASU in Boone....Charlotte is hometown Posts: 994	so i just bought a warn tabor 9000 for 500 shipped.....pics to come as soon as it arrives and gets put in. __________________ -Andy 99 4runner 5speed Lift: 3" revtek & 2" body; swaybar discos; diff drop Performance: TRD s/c & 7th injector kit, deckplate closed, elbow removed, TMC 1.1, lock-rite in rear Protection: tjm15 w/ tabor 9k, custom sliders Shoes: 305/70/16 nitto terra graps on 16x8 helo maxx 6's Stuff: lots of lights on the surco, yakima big powderhound right now, shackle hangers, sony head unit, aux fuse box, full time power outlets, seat covers, and home of the herculiner mod

03-10-2006, 12:10 PM	#40 (permalink)
SLC97SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 392	I installed my Warn 9500 XP into the TJM T-17 this weekend and it was pure bolt in. I had to clock the clutch 2 allen holes to get the lever to line up and I also cut and re-welded my clutch lever 180* so free spool would not hit the grill when selected.

03-10-2006, 12:16 PM	#41 (permalink)
SLC97SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 392	so what is the run down on winches that will fit the TJMs? aaron I'm not sure what all fits but the way I found out was by going to the WARN site and looking up the 4 bolt mounting measurments and comparing it to the TJM/ARB center section. Ex: the M8000 is known to fit so any winch with the same dimensions will also fit assuming it is a remote mounted control box. The only other limiting factor would be the overall length, my TJM has plenty of room for the 9500xp but I understand the ARB's are tight.

03-10-2006, 09:56 PM	#43 (permalink)
northfacer581 Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ASU in Boone....Charlotte is hometown Posts: 994	yea im curious myself. its go the 1 year limited, so i should be alright. i wont be using it much, and ive already purchased warn's winch accessory kit (snatch block, straps, shackle....) so im good to go! me and my jeep buddy already plan to go out and test it out...of course he'll be the one needing the winch! __________________ -Andy 99 4runner 5speed Lift: 3" revtek & 2" body; swaybar discos; diff drop Performance: TRD s/c & 7th injector kit, deckplate closed, elbow removed, TMC 1.1, lock-rite in rear Protection: tjm15 w/ tabor 9k, custom sliders Shoes: 305/70/16 nitto terra graps on 16x8 helo maxx 6's Stuff: lots of lights on the surco, yakima big powderhound right now, shackle hangers, sony head unit, aux fuse box, full time power outlets, seat covers, and home of the herculiner mod

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