Is OME882 front spring too stiff for ARB bumper without winch?

schlopecki · 03-12-2004, 02:16 PM

I'm modifying my suspension and I decided to go with OME for all corners.
I'm not sure though which spring type I should use in front - 881 or 882.
Apparently 882 is recommended for heavy bumpers with winches.
I do have the ARB front bumper, but I don't have a winch.
I plan to buy winch, but it's down on my list - probably next year.
Any advice if whether I should go with 881 or 882?
BTW I'm aware of SWAY-A-WAY existance.

Thank you.

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WolfpackTLC · 03-12-2004, 07:01 PM

I just upgraded from 881's- 882's w/ an ARB bumper and no winch in our 4Runner. It rides GREAT, but the front still seems to have more lift than the rear. I have the heavy lift springs in rear as well. I'm hoping it will " settle " over time.

hhog4dc · 03-12-2004, 07:08 PM

I just put 882's on my rig with ARB and winch and it rides so much better then it did with the 881's and stock bumper and the front is now level with the back.

**waskillywabbit** · 03-12-2004, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schlopecki

I'm modifying my suspension and I decided to go with OME for all corners.
I'm not sure though which spring type I should use in front - 881 or 882.
Apparently 882 is recommended for heavy bumpers with winches.
I do have the ARB front bumper, but I don't have a winch.
I plan to buy winch, but it's down on my list - probably next year.
Any advice if whether I should go with 881 or 882?
BTW I'm aware of SWAY-A-WAY existance.

Thank you.

If you get 882s and don't have a winch, you will blow grease IMO. The 882s are recommended by OME for use only with a bumper/winch, heavy weight up front. A bumper alone doesn't weigh much more than the stock one, but the winch adds at least 75 more lbs. I had 881s with no bumper/winch and then put the ARB/M8000 on there and it sagged. I put 882s on a day later and WOW, what a difference. I am sitting level and the ride is awesome.

I would get the 881s with the bumper and just sell them and upgrade to 882s when you get the winch. You'll have no prob selling the 881s when you get ready.

Check out my website for more detail of what I did. It was exactly what you are talking about doing.

I hope this helps!

hhog4dc · 03-12-2004, 07:54 PM

just a quick note I have 881's sitting in the garage that I just took off 3 weeks ago if you might be interested in. Doug

Dozer · 03-12-2004, 09:22 PM

I ran 882's for a year with the stock bumper and had no issues with my CV's. Now I have my ARB and warn 9000 and it rides good. I have gotten all four wheels off the ground and it lands smooth! I say get the 882's, winch or not.

Glad to see you got your toys, Doug! Did you end up finding a deal? It's time to get out and check out Eagle Rock!

Dozer

hhog4dc · 03-13-2004, 05:40 AM

Hey Dozer
No did not get a deal on stuff had to pay $$$$ but I'm set up now and that's all that matters.....Going in today to Slee's

to get manual hubs put on. Leaking at the inner CV
and just want peice of mind that I won't have any problems down the road.

Sorry for the hijack Sebastian

Albuquerque Jim · 03-13-2004, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hhog4dc

Going in today to Slee's

to get manual hubs put on. Leaking at the inner CV
and just want peice of mind that I won't have any problems down the road.

What type of manual hubs are you getting? Taco or the ORS kit?

**waskillywabbit** · 03-13-2004, 01:36 PM

On a 3rd gen the manual hubs are $$$$$ but if I had the $$$$ I'd do it in a heartbeat...

hhog4dc · 03-13-2004, 03:41 PM

They are ORS hubs and kit and I got a deal at Slee's Offroad in Golden
I was able to get it for a good deal since Ben that works there was taking it off his girlfriends truck. The only thing that wasn't brand new was the warn hubs other then that it was all new shafts and high angle boots.....Sweet

schlopecki · 03-13-2004, 03:52 PM

Thanks guys for all the info.
I'm adding adding some armour to the toy anyway and I will gain some lbs
even without the winch, so I think I will go with 882's.

hhog4dc, I don't mind the hijaking

I'm thinking about manual hubs down the road myself too.

Albuquerque Jim · 03-21-2004, 10:23 PM

I had a set of 882's on Bil's sitting here for a while. I bought them used from a board member.

I just slapped them on the other day to see what it would be like. I thought it would be too much for my CV's. But, their not. In fact, I only get about 2.5" of lift. I think the Bil's may be completly extended, thus limiting the 882's from achieving their full lift. Probably not an ideal set up. But this is just one of those "experimental" things.

Anyway, my point is all of this depends on what shocks you run as well. 882's with Bil's ride nice on the road and only yield 2.5" of lift. I'm sure they will be stiff as board in the rocks though. But I don't plan to use them there. I'll go back to my squishy stock coils with spacers for the rocks.

TDiddy · 03-22-2004, 05:50 AM

882's are truely hit or miss IMO. I had them on for a week (no bumper/winch) and they were hell on my CV's, but I do know of others that have used them without any problems.

**waskillywabbit** · 03-22-2004, 06:01 AM

I think the added weight of the bumper and winch makes a lot of the difference and just how much you have to stretch your boots when you put them on, whether or not you stretch/deform the OEM bands. Mine were burping, but now have stopped. But I'll keep a close eye on them and if they leak some more or do anything else funny, we'll be regreasing and rebanding those puppies.

WolfpackTLC · 03-24-2004, 01:36 PM

This is the way our 96' w/ the 882's sits...

03-12-2004, 07:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
WolfpackTLC Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 828	I just upgraded from 881's- 882's w/ an ARB bumper and no winch in our 4Runner. It rides GREAT, but the front still seems to have more lift than the rear. I have the heavy lift springs in rear as well. I'm hoping it will " settle " over time. __________________ 1995 Land Cruiser -ARB'd, OME'D, Slee'd, Warn'd, lifted, locked, dented, WHEELED.

03-12-2004, 07:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
hhog4dc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Co.Springs, CO Posts: 146	I just put 882's on my rig with ARB and winch and it rides so much better then it did with the 881's and stock bumper and the front is now level with the back. __________________ 98 Limited, E-Locker, OME Lift 885's Front 891's Rear, ORS Manual hubs www.armorology.com Custom Skid Plates, Rear Bumper & Tire Carrier, 285/75/16 Cooper STT MT's, Pro Comp 8" Lights, Yakima Load Warrior Rack, Hella 500's, Cobra CB, 48" Hi Lift, Rockware Sliders, ARB Tacoma Bumper & Warn 9.5 XP Winch,Tranny Cooler, Red Optima Battery, Horn Mod, Rock Lights, XM Roady 2, Deckplate, Custom Cargo Box. Etc.Etc. It Never Ends

03-12-2004, 07:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
hhog4dc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Co.Springs, CO Posts: 146	just a quick note I have 881's sitting in the garage that I just took off 3 weeks ago if you might be interested in. Doug __________________ 98 Limited, E-Locker, OME Lift 885's Front 891's Rear, ORS Manual hubs www.armorology.com Custom Skid Plates, Rear Bumper & Tire Carrier, 285/75/16 Cooper STT MT's, Pro Comp 8" Lights, Yakima Load Warrior Rack, Hella 500's, Cobra CB, 48" Hi Lift, Rockware Sliders, ARB Tacoma Bumper & Warn 9.5 XP Winch,Tranny Cooler, Red Optima Battery, Horn Mod, Rock Lights, XM Roady 2, Deckplate, Custom Cargo Box. Etc.Etc. It Never Ends

03-12-2004, 09:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dozer Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Evergreen, Colorado Posts: 76	I ran 882's for a year with the stock bumper and had no issues with my CV's. Now I have my ARB and warn 9000 and it rides good. I have gotten all four wheels off the ground and it lands smooth! I say get the 882's, winch or not. Glad to see you got your toys, Doug! Did you end up finding a deal? It's time to get out and check out Eagle Rock! Dozer __________________ 2009 Tacoma TRD Offroad Last edited by Dozer; 03-12-2004 at 09:26 PM.

03-13-2004, 05:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
hhog4dc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Co.Springs, CO Posts: 146	Hey Dozer No did not get a deal on stuff had to pay $$$$ but I'm set up now and that's all that matters.....Going in today to Slee's to get manual hubs put on. Leaking at the inner CV and just want peice of mind that I won't have any problems down the road. Sorry for the hijack Sebastian __________________ 98 Limited, E-Locker, OME Lift 885's Front 891's Rear, ORS Manual hubs www.armorology.com Custom Skid Plates, Rear Bumper & Tire Carrier, 285/75/16 Cooper STT MT's, Pro Comp 8" Lights, Yakima Load Warrior Rack, Hella 500's, Cobra CB, 48" Hi Lift, Rockware Sliders, ARB Tacoma Bumper & Warn 9.5 XP Winch,Tranny Cooler, Red Optima Battery, Horn Mod, Rock Lights, XM Roady 2, Deckplate, Custom Cargo Box. Etc.Etc. It Never Ends Last edited by hhog4dc; 03-13-2004 at 05:41 AM.

03-13-2004, 01:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,554	manual hubs On a 3rd gen the manual hubs are $$$$$ but if I had the $$$$ I'd do it in a heartbeat... __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

03-13-2004, 03:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
hhog4dc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Co.Springs, CO Posts: 146	They are ORS hubs and kit and I got a deal at Slee's Offroad in Golden I was able to get it for a good deal since Ben that works there was taking it off his girlfriends truck. The only thing that wasn't brand new was the warn hubs other then that it was all new shafts and high angle boots.....Sweet __________________ 98 Limited, E-Locker, OME Lift 885's Front 891's Rear, ORS Manual hubs www.armorology.com Custom Skid Plates, Rear Bumper & Tire Carrier, 285/75/16 Cooper STT MT's, Pro Comp 8" Lights, Yakima Load Warrior Rack, Hella 500's, Cobra CB, 48" Hi Lift, Rockware Sliders, ARB Tacoma Bumper & Warn 9.5 XP Winch,Tranny Cooler, Red Optima Battery, Horn Mod, Rock Lights, XM Roady 2, Deckplate, Custom Cargo Box. Etc.Etc. It Never Ends

03-13-2004, 03:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
schlopecki Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Kansas City area Posts: 77	882's Thanks guys for all the info. I'm adding adding some armour to the toy anyway and I will gain some lbs even without the winch, so I think I will go with 882's. hhog4dc, I don't mind the hijaking I'm thinking about manual hubs down the road myself too. __________________ Sebastian 97 LX450 01 4Runner (FOR SALE - link): 285 Revos/16x7 OEM alu 4.56, r-ARB OME882/N91SC, OME890/N86C, RB dif drop, Lars' discos, front-end-links-in-the-rear, SS bump stops and Panhard drop, InlandTrucks A-arms, MasterCraft limiting straps ARB f-bumper, SS r-bumper, moded Carnage skids, moded RB RockSliderZ 1" RB BL, A/T cooler & filter, steering cooler, s-steel brake lines, AMSOil air filter, Mobil1 oils and filters, 12K e-MileMarker

03-21-2004, 10:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
Albuquerque Jim Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,570	Recent Personal Experience I had a set of 882's on Bil's sitting here for a while. I bought them used from a board member. I just slapped them on the other day to see what it would be like. I thought it would be too much for my CV's. But, their not. In fact, I only get about 2.5" of lift. I think the Bil's may be completly extended, thus limiting the 882's from achieving their full lift. Probably not an ideal set up. But this is just one of those "experimental" things. Anyway, my point is all of this depends on what shocks you run as well. 882's with Bil's ride nice on the road and only yield 2.5" of lift. I'm sure they will be stiff as board in the rocks though. But I don't plan to use them there. I'll go back to my squishy stock coils with spacers for the rocks. __________________ '00 SR5, "Highlander" Dual Cases, Aisin Hubs, E-Lock'd, Cryo'd, Chromo'd, ARB'd, 315's, Sonoran Steel Bumper, Lift & UCA's, 4 Crawl 1" BL, Armored...etc. F-Toy #081 in progress Dual Cases, 30 Splines, 5.71's, E-lockers, Hydro-Assist, 37's, DOM Hendrix Chassis, 80Proof, ORS, Sonoran Steel...etc. Last edited by Albuquerque Jim; 03-22-2004 at 07:35 AM.

03-22-2004, 05:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
TDiddy Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Urbandale, IA Posts: 7,113	882's are truely hit or miss IMO. I had them on for a week (no bumper/winch) and they were hell on my CV's, but I do know of others that have used them without any problems.

03-22-2004, 06:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,554	882s I think the added weight of the bumper and winch makes a lot of the difference and just how much you have to stretch your boots when you put them on, whether or not you stretch/deform the OEM bands. Mine were burping, but now have stopped. But I'll keep a close eye on them and if they leak some more or do anything else funny, we'll be regreasing and rebanding those puppies. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

03-24-2004, 01:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
WolfpackTLC Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 828	This is the way our 96' w/ the 882's sits... __________________ 1995 Land Cruiser -ARB'd, OME'D, Slee'd, Warn'd, lifted, locked, dented, WHEELED.

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