lockers...how to tell if its there...?

kauaiboy89 · 10-08-2008, 07:33 AM

im thinking about pickup up this 85 22re sas 4runner, its nice and they say it has 5.29 gearing and lockers, its on a different island so i had my friend check it out for me and he confirmed that there is some type of good gearing because it pulls great on flat ground and up steep hills in 3rd and 4th so im happy that we confirmed that but we dont know a way to tell if there is actually the lockers in it that the owner says it does, the only bads about the runner is some rust and i think it needs a knuckle rebuild kit, planning on ordering a hy-steer setup when i order the rebuild kit, the cost for the rebuild kit will lower the price of the truck i hope

i know how to check if its welded by jacking it up and spinning the tire and if its a real locker both tires shouldnt spin at the same time because it had no traction to engage the locker and if its the opposite and both tires spin with no force or traction the its welded...correct me if im wrong

if i had it my way i would check it that way but im not sure if ill be able to jack up this guys 4runner to actually see so i was wondering if there is any other ways to tell? the only other way i can think of is to take it into some mud or muddy hill and give it the skinny pedal a bit and have someone watch the tires spin but the truck aint mine yet and i cant see the owner letting me do that before i pay him because of the risk of me breaking something on the truck

any help on this subject is greatly appreciated, thanks guys

aloha

rdlsz24 · 10-08-2008, 07:39 AM

Make a turn on dry pavement and see if it's "lurchy"? lol

Rob

crolison · 10-08-2008, 07:39 AM

lift up the axle, and spin the tire, if it spins the same direction it has a locker in it.

if it spins the opposite direction its an open diff.

NicCantDecide · 10-08-2008, 07:44 AM

^^and by "it" he means the other tire.

If they both spin the same direction its locked. Or at least has an LSD.

kauaiboy89 · 10-08-2008, 01:11 PM

wouldnt a welded one do the same? so if i can spin on tire to the front of the truck and one to the rear then its open?

crolison · 10-08-2008, 01:50 PM

no,

if i spine the right rear tire, and it spins the opposite direction its open.

Countryhick · 10-08-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crolison

no,

if i spine the right rear tire, and it spins the opposite direction its open.

lol trust me. you drive down the road with 5:29's you can see the difference in the lower gearing from stock. i got 5:29's in my 4runner i can feel the difference.

Along with locker. I just got my rear end welded this weekend. You turn any corner no matter how slow or fast. you'll hear a squeek. thats a locker.

if it doesnt squeek or skip. Your open.

pepsibluefloat · 10-08-2008, 01:59 PM

if its not welded it wil "ratchet" around turns. By ratchet, i mean make a clicking noise. If its welded it wont do that, it will probably squeal the tires.

(assuming its not ARB, electric, or LSD)

904_runner · 10-08-2008, 02:04 PM

welded means, both tires spin in the same direction at the same speed all the time.

youll know if its welded, because when you take a turn, lets say at 5 miles per hour, it will sound like you are taking it at, lets say, 20mph!

Ask him what kind of lockers he has.

ANother clue is, if it is an auto locker, such as lockright, aussie locker, when taking turns you will hear a faint clicking noise.

EDIT: "i am way to slow at typing today"

10-08-2008, 07:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
kauaiboy89 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wailua, Kaua'i Posts: 41	lockers...how to tell if its there...? im thinking about pickup up this 85 22re sas 4runner, its nice and they say it has 5.29 gearing and lockers, its on a different island so i had my friend check it out for me and he confirmed that there is some type of good gearing because it pulls great on flat ground and up steep hills in 3rd and 4th so im happy that we confirmed that but we dont know a way to tell if there is actually the lockers in it that the owner says it does, the only bads about the runner is some rust and i think it needs a knuckle rebuild kit, planning on ordering a hy-steer setup when i order the rebuild kit, the cost for the rebuild kit will lower the price of the truck i hope i know how to check if its welded by jacking it up and spinning the tire and if its a real locker both tires shouldnt spin at the same time because it had no traction to engage the locker and if its the opposite and both tires spin with no force or traction the its welded...correct me if im wrong if i had it my way i would check it that way but im not sure if ill be able to jack up this guys 4runner to actually see so i was wondering if there is any other ways to tell? the only other way i can think of is to take it into some mud or muddy hill and give it the skinny pedal a bit and have someone watch the tires spin but the truck aint mine yet and i cant see the owner letting me do that before i pay him because of the risk of me breaking something on the truck any help on this subject is greatly appreciated, thanks guys aloha

10-08-2008, 07:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
rdlsz24 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pecatonica, IL Posts: 1,385	Make a turn on dry pavement and see if it's "lurchy"? lol Rob __________________ 1988 Xtra Cab Pickup ('94 22RE; 4x4; 5spd) Rancho lift w/ 33x12.5x15 tires & 5.29s

10-08-2008, 07:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
crolison Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: knoxville, tn Posts: 1,624	lift up the axle, and spin the tire, if it spins the same direction it has a locker in it. if it spins the opposite direction its an open diff. __________________ 97 4runner, 2.7 5speed 4wd, 4.556, 255/85/16 Maxxis Bighorns rear diff breather, 4 hella 500's driving, sliders, wilderness rack custom bumper arb locked rear toytec adjustables, ome 891's, bilstein 5125 manual hubs broken front and rear swaybars My Profile

10-08-2008, 01:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
crolison Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: knoxville, tn Posts: 1,624	no, if i spine the right rear tire, and it spins the opposite direction its open. __________________ 97 4runner, 2.7 5speed 4wd, 4.556, 255/85/16 Maxxis Bighorns rear diff breather, 4 hella 500's driving, sliders, wilderness rack custom bumper arb locked rear toytec adjustables, ome 891's, bilstein 5125 manual hubs broken front and rear swaybars My Profile

10-08-2008, 01:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
pepsibluefloat Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 333	if its not welded it wil "ratchet" around turns. By ratchet, i mean make a clicking noise. If its welded it wont do that, it will probably squeal the tires. (assuming its not ARB, electric, or LSD) __________________ 1988 4runner::SAS\|3vze\|A340H\|5.29's\|Aussie Front\|LockRight Rear\|Longfield axles/Hub Gear\|4"Rear/3"Front springs\|Marlin High Steer\|Custom CV rear driveshaft from High Angle Driveline\|Rear D/S shortened and made into front D/S \|35" Goodyear MT/R My 4runner n stuff

10-08-2008, 07:44 AM	#4 (permalink)
NicCantDecide Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 170	^^and by "it" he means the other tire. If they both spin the same direction its locked. Or at least has an LSD.

10-08-2008, 01:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
kauaiboy89 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wailua, Kaua'i Posts: 41	wouldnt a welded one do the same? so if i can spin on tire to the front of the truck and one to the rear then its open?

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