IFS Bumpstops

blueyota38 · 06-30-2009, 07:02 PM

I realize there has been severel threads about bumpstops but i think i have something not said yet. I bought my yota and i has a 6 in lift. Somebody put 4in body lift blocks between the a-arm and the bumpstop making it bottom out real quick. I was just wondering if it would mess anything up if i took them off leaving the stock bumpstops in the stock position? I didnt know if it would travel enough to pull the cv axle out or anything. Thanks.

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tc · 06-30-2009, 07:21 PM

What kind of rig? What 6" lift? What size tire?

Pix?

blueyota38 · 06-30-2009, 07:31 PM

Its not really a name brand its just blocks in the back and the regular stuff with no brand name on them. Its a 1994 toyota pickup daily driver/ trail rig. And 33/12.50/15 Maxxas Buckshot. And i dont have any pix but as of now the bumpstops are about a inch or two away from the a-arm and i really would like to have more travel in the front than that.

jtruck79 · 06-30-2009, 07:38 PM

we pulle dthe bumpstops out of a friends 88 toy 6months ago way improved flex then we pulled front sway bar now he can rub fender with 6inch lift and 35's. has been wheeled hard and never pulled a cv apart yet. but if ur worried u can always cut urs in half and reweld together to shorten it. Have fun make friends....

blueyota38 · 06-30-2009, 07:40 PM

So did his have body lift blocks on the bumpstops to?

4Crawler · 06-30-2009, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueyota38

So did his have body lift blocks on the bumpstops to?

Those would not be "body lift blocks", those would be placed between the frame and the body in order to "lift the body". What you are talking about are the bump stop extensions. You might try putting in a lower profile bumpstop or simply cutting down the stock bumpstops to shorten them and allow a little more travel. You do want the bumpstops to stop the suspension before it compresses too far and causes damage to itself or other components.

blueyota38 · 07-01-2009, 01:55 PM

I am possitive they are body lift blocks and it looks like it was riged in other words. My buddy has the same blocks on his truck. i guess what i am trying to know is if i would be able to have the bumpstops in the stock location without the truck bottoming out and tearing things up? Sorry i didnt have this clear.

4Crawler · 07-01-2009, 01:58 PM

Well, they may be spacers of some sort, perhaps a recycled body lift block, but in that location they would not be lifting the body, only spacing the bump stop to match the lift. Maybe try cutting down the spacers a little to allow some more travel. And post a picture or two, might shed some light on the issue you are having.

blueyota38 · 07-01-2009, 02:36 PM

ok ill try to get a picture on here of it.

blueyota38 · 07-02-2009, 07:16 AM

Can someone talk me through on how to get a picture on here because i have been messing with my kodak easyshare thing for 45 min trying to get the pictures on here.

yoder519 · 07-02-2009, 07:20 AM

go on photobucket.com and set up a free account. after you upload the pics, right click and copy the [IMG] code then paste it in a new post. welcome to Yotatech!!

blueyota38 · 07-02-2009, 07:40 AM

thanks

blueyota38 · 07-02-2009, 07:58 AM

Here we go i think.

http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/q...t=100_0822.jpg

It wouldnt copy and paste the picture so just go to that link and its a picture of it. Just dont mess with my stuff on there. Thanks

4Crawler · 07-02-2009, 08:10 AM

Looks like a normal spacer block from a bracket lift kit to lower the bump stop. You might try a slightly shorter spacer, for example if that one is 4" tall, try something in the 3"-3.5" tall range.

Lumpy · 07-02-2009, 08:26 AM

You need to copy the direct link and it will post.

Wouldn't that be for a IFS Drop bracket lift??? I have not worked on one of these but I have see a few. A body lift will not have these brackets on the bumper stops. You can raise the body 10" and not need these.

blueyota38 · 07-02-2009, 10:10 AM

I know body lift doesnt need these but i have suspension lift only. where would you think i could get ahold of some of the smaller spacers.

Lumpy · 07-02-2009, 10:14 AM

I'm sorry, I do apologize, I could have sworn somewhere it stated that it was a body lift. I guess I miss read somewhere.
Anywho...I think the best thin to do is take them out can cut them down and re weld them. Just be sure before you cut them have it flex (I know IFS Flex...) and see how far it will travel and how much you need to cut out. Go slow and take your time and it you should be alright...should be.

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blueyota38 · 07-02-2009, 10:18 AM

Ok, i think what you read was that they were body lift blocks. Very missleading

4Crawler · 07-02-2009, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueyota38

I know body lift doesnt need these but i have suspension lift only. where would you think i could get ahold of some of the smaller spacers.

Might try a local metal scrap yard or fabricator and see if they have some cut off scraps of rectangular tubing to could get ahold of.

Or if you can't find anything locally, I have some 3" tall stock that I could cut out a pair of spacers that you could try. Would run about $15 for the two spacers and $7.00 shipping.

blueyota38 · 07-02-2009, 02:33 PM

Thats nice but i beleive i am going to be able to find some local. Or if that dont work cut mine. Thanks anyways.

tc · 07-02-2009, 03:24 PM

I wouldn't bother with the bracket - just get lower profile snubbers. Because of the angle, just a little difference near the pivot on the bumpstop will add a lot of travel at the wheel.

Something like this:

or this

http://www.energysuspension.com/pages/bsp2.html

deathrunner · 07-06-2009, 08:06 AM

That bump stop drop bracket is designed into your lift to protect the components. If it wasn't necessary, they wouldn't include them with all bracket lift kits. I had those before too.

Lower profile bumps will increase4 travel a bit (Maybe an inch at the wheel?) but they are not soft and cause harsher bottoming out. If you want more travel, add a balljoint spacer to your kit.

If you shorten or remove those bumpstops, your a arms will be allowed to go up farther. Your CV can handle it, but your lower arm may hit the frame if you go to far. The biggest issue is what are you losing in expense of travel. When you bottom out now, the bottom of the crossmember would be parallel with your arms. If you allow for more up travel, your crossmember is just getting closer and closer to the ground.

So, you'll be trading travel for ground clearance. Just a thought.

06-30-2009, 07:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,377	What kind of rig? What 6" lift? What size tire? Pix? __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

06-30-2009, 07:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
blueyota38 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 49	Its not really a name brand its just blocks in the back and the regular stuff with no brand name on them. Its a 1994 toyota pickup daily driver/ trail rig. And 33/12.50/15 Maxxas Buckshot. And i dont have any pix but as of now the bumpstops are about a inch or two away from the a-arm and i really would like to have more travel in the front than that. __________________ 1994 pickup 4x4, 6in lift, 33in Buckshot, rollbar w/ lights, Black front bumper, 22re

06-30-2009, 07:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
blueyota38 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 49	So did his have body lift blocks on the bumpstops to? __________________ 1994 pickup 4x4, 6in lift, 33in Buckshot, rollbar w/ lights, Black front bumper, 22re

07-01-2009, 01:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
blueyota38 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 49	I am possitive they are body lift blocks and it looks like it was riged in other words. My buddy has the same blocks on his truck. i guess what i am trying to know is if i would be able to have the bumpstops in the stock location without the truck bottoming out and tearing things up? Sorry i didnt have this clear. __________________ 1994 pickup 4x4, 6in lift, 33in Buckshot, rollbar w/ lights, Black front bumper, 22re

07-01-2009, 01:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 7,836	Well, they may be spacers of some sort, perhaps a recycled body lift block, but in that location they would not be lifting the body, only spacing the bump stop to match the lift. Maybe try cutting down the spacers a little to allow some more travel. And post a picture or two, might shed some light on the issue you are having. __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs or 35x12.50 MTRs r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

06-30-2009, 07:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
jtruck79 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: tacoma,wa 98408 Posts: 25	we pulle dthe bumpstops out of a friends 88 toy 6months ago way improved flex then we pulled front sway bar now he can rub fender with 6inch lift and 35's. has been wheeled hard and never pulled a cv apart yet. but if ur worried u can always cut urs in half and reweld together to shorten it. Have fun make friends....

07-01-2009, 02:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
blueyota38 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 49	ok ill try to get a picture on here of it. __________________ 1994 pickup 4x4, 6in lift, 33in Buckshot, rollbar w/ lights, Black front bumper, 22re

07-02-2009, 07:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
blueyota38 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 49	Can someone talk me through on how to get a picture on here because i have been messing with my kodak easyshare thing for 45 min trying to get the pictures on here. __________________ 1994 pickup 4x4, 6in lift, 33in Buckshot, rollbar w/ lights, Black front bumper, 22re

07-02-2009, 07:20 AM	#11 (permalink)
yoder519 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: virginia Posts: 1,006	go on photobucket.com and set up a free account. after you upload the pics, right click and copy the [IMG] code then paste it in a new post. welcome to Yotatech!! __________________ Sold&Missed 95 Yota pu 22RE/33x12.50 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders/TG Sliders/4Crawler 2in BL//TG Diff Breather/Herculined Floorboard/Magnaflow Hi-Flow Cat/2.25" Exhaust/Glasspack/Procomp black steelies/Procomp shocks/Superlift 2" AALs/4 Crawler 1.5" BJers 1998 Dodge Cummins 24V 4x4 5spd/Quad Arenaline/4in Exhaust/6in Tip/AFE Intake

07-02-2009, 07:40 AM	#12 (permalink)
blueyota38 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 49	thanks __________________ 1994 pickup 4x4, 6in lift, 33in Buckshot, rollbar w/ lights, Black front bumper, 22re

07-02-2009, 07:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
blueyota38 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 49	Here we go i think. http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/q...t=100_0822.jpg It wouldnt copy and paste the picture so just go to that link and its a picture of it. Just dont mess with my stuff on there. Thanks __________________ 1994 pickup 4x4, 6in lift, 33in Buckshot, rollbar w/ lights, Black front bumper, 22re

07-02-2009, 08:10 AM	#14 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 7,836	Looks like a normal spacer block from a bracket lift kit to lower the bump stop. You might try a slightly shorter spacer, for example if that one is 4" tall, try something in the 3"-3.5" tall range. __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs or 35x12.50 MTRs r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

07-02-2009, 10:10 AM	#16 (permalink)
blueyota38 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 49	I know body lift doesnt need these but i have suspension lift only. where would you think i could get ahold of some of the smaller spacers. __________________ 1994 pickup 4x4, 6in lift, 33in Buckshot, rollbar w/ lights, Black front bumper, 22re

07-02-2009, 10:18 AM	#18 (permalink)
blueyota38 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 49	Ok, i think what you read was that they were body lift blocks. Very missleading __________________ 1994 pickup 4x4, 6in lift, 33in Buckshot, rollbar w/ lights, Black front bumper, 22re

07-02-2009, 02:33 PM	#20 (permalink)
blueyota38 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 49	Thats nice but i beleive i am going to be able to find some local. Or if that dont work cut mine. Thanks anyways. __________________ 1994 pickup 4x4, 6in lift, 33in Buckshot, rollbar w/ lights, Black front bumper, 22re

07-02-2009, 03:24 PM	#21 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,377	I wouldn't bother with the bracket - just get lower profile snubbers. Because of the angle, just a little difference near the pivot on the bumpstop will add a lot of travel at the wheel. Something like this: or this http://www.energysuspension.com/pages/bsp2.html __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action Last edited by tc; 07-02-2009 at 03:26 PM.

07-06-2009, 08:06 AM	#22 (permalink)
deathrunner Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 2,971	That bump stop drop bracket is designed into your lift to protect the components. If it wasn't necessary, they wouldn't include them with all bracket lift kits. I had those before too. Lower profile bumps will increase4 travel a bit (Maybe an inch at the wheel?) but they are not soft and cause harsher bottoming out. If you want more travel, add a balljoint spacer to your kit. If you shorten or remove those bumpstops, your a arms will be allowed to go up farther. Your CV can handle it, but your lower arm may hit the frame if you go to far. The biggest issue is what are you losing in expense of travel. When you bottom out now, the bottom of the crossmember would be parallel with your arms. If you allow for more up travel, your crossmember is just getting closer and closer to the ground. So, you'll be trading travel for ground clearance. Just a thought. __________________ IFS IS FOR LOSERS Decroded Piece of Crap

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