ARB Compressor Alternative Idea

nc994run · 06-10-2008, 11:28 PM

I am going to be getting an ARB air locker towards the end of the summer. I wanted to get a compressor that I can use for the locker and also for an occasional air-up.

My idea was to use a Superflow MV50 (150 max psi, 2.54 CFM)

http://www.parksoffroad.com/prodrevi.../mv50/mv50.htm

and also use a VIAIR pressure regulator (85 PSI on, 105 off) for this setup

http://www.viaircorp.com/90110.html

Anyone using this compressor for an ARB locker? Critiques/ Comments?

L33T35T 4Runner · 06-10-2008, 11:46 PM

The MV50 is a great compressor, but they arent available from Kragen anymore. There is now a new compressor, available at Pep Boys, called the SF1050 or something to that effect. They are both great compressors. I run both on my air system, but the SF1050's head started leaking. It still compresses air but tops out around 80 psi. I had to put a 1 way check valve on there or my whole air system would leak out. I have returned it three times for new compressors and they all started doing this after it ran at a high pressure (100 psi) for a short time.

I've always wanted one of those pressure switches. How much do they run?

nc994run · 06-11-2008, 12:31 AM

I found the MV50 on amazon for 63$

The pressure regulator runs $22 or so plus shipping, so still cheaper than a compact ARB compressor

***waskillywabbit*** · 06-11-2008, 08:18 AM

Don't try to skimp on a compressor for your ARB and etc or you will end up lockerless when you need it most.

There is a FAQ thread I started about OBA systems.

dirtoyboy · 06-11-2008, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Don't try to skimp on a compressor for your ARB and etc or you will end up lockerless when you need it most.

There is a FAQ thread I started about OBA systems.

x2...I plan on using an ARB compressor AND a CO2 tank for backup

crolison · 06-11-2008, 10:20 AM

I got my arb mini for around 80 bucks shipped off of ebay, and thats new. And i am running an mv50 i got off of ebay for 20 bucks new to fill my tires.

nc994run · 06-11-2008, 11:06 AM

If I could find some deals like those I would definitely run an ARB mini and an MV50 ... I'm looking into the cost of just using the high output ARB for locker and air ups

Red_Chili · 06-11-2008, 11:12 AM

I run two MV50s in tandem. The internal relays are a failure point, but as they are switched from the cab and use external relays (in my install) they are easily removed.

The compressors themselves seem to be fairly well made and are holding together. Having two speeds airup, and provides redundancy. Aside from the internal relay failures there have been no others, and no leaks. Check valves are a good idea anyway. I use my front bumper as an air tank. I use the ARB pressure switch but you could use anything. Just not over 90-100psi!!!

I mounted mine in the engine bay, relocating stuff as needed. I used Toyota rubber mounts for some such or other radiator on a truck- sorry I don't remember the year, nor the part number. You could use other stuff.

Not impressed with the ARB compressors. BTDT.

dirtoyboy · 06-11-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Chili

Not impressed with the ARB compressors. BTDT.

Curious...did one fail on you? OR you just werent impressed with the performance?

Red_Chili · 06-11-2008, 11:34 AM

Performance. It is a single purpose unit (the older design, not the smaller obviously single purpose one).

ARB makes stuff of the highest quality and excellent customer service. I have been extremely pleased with the quality of everything I have gotten from them. However, I was willing to take a chance on the MV-50s after using them as portable units. One compressor is leisurely on inflating 35. Two compressors do a respectable job. Not as fast as CO2, but not that much slower, and no tank to carry around.

dirtoyboy · 06-11-2008, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Chili

Performance. It is a single purpose unit (the older design, not the smaller obviously single purpose one).

ARB makes stuff of the highest quality and excellent customer service. I have been extremely pleased with the quality of everything I have gotten from them. However, I was willing to take a chance on the MV-50s after using them as portable units. One compressor is leisurely on inflating 35. Two compressors do a respectable job. Not as fast as CO2, but not that much slower, and no tank to carry around.

Dang quick response! I might have to look into those for a backup compressor..thanks

CJM · 06-11-2008, 11:38 AM

I feel an ARB would be a better idea, buy once cry one I always say.

If you want one of the little compressor for your tires go for it, but dont trust it to work your locker.

Red_Chili · 06-11-2008, 12:10 PM

I got curious about the compressors sold on Amazon, so I had a look. I saw what must have been a typo:
Master Flow MF-1050 Tsunami High Volume Portable Air Compressor for $5.00

This is the same unit as the MV50. Couldn't be accurate. Or it was fly-by-night (though Amazon guarantees this stuff). So I called the guy.

He is in Missouri, apparently he buys lots of various things and sells them in volume at a discount. On this item his shipping is pretty outrageous, $9+. However, that makes the final cost less than $15, delivered. The price is real. He somehow makes money on this. Probably due to the 'shipping'.

Perhaps he purchased lots of stuff from a company that was folding? No idea.

I have two coming. The greedy part of me wanted to buy him out and resell them to wheelers at a modest profit.
I beat that part of me back into the cave.

So don't turn around and do it yourself, share with the community.

Red_Chili · 06-11-2008, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJM

I feel an ARB would be a better idea, buy once cry one I always say.

If you want one of the little compressor for your tires go for it, but dont trust it to work your locker.

They have worked well for me for two or three years. With the relay caveat above. I converted to 1/4" NPT fittings however. They are simple units.

I tend to buy once and cry a lot as I pay it down. This works better.

nc994run · 06-11-2008, 12:25 PM

I just picked up 2 for $26! I will probably use 2 for OBA and pick up an ARB mini for the locker just to be safe.

crolison · 06-11-2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJM

I feel an ARB would be a better idea, buy once cry one I always say.

If you want one of the little compressor for your tires go for it, but dont trust it to work your locker.

One reason i wanted the mini arb is just to run air locker, thats all it is there for.

spdjnky · 06-12-2008, 10:56 AM

did anyone ever receive the inflators from this guy?

DeathCougar · 06-12-2008, 11:06 AM

A little off topic, but still concerns Air Compressors.

Has anyone tried or considered using a Lexus LS400 suspension compressor in place of an ARB compressor? I got ahold of a complete air suspension system complete with lines and compressor for FREE but wanted to see if it was feesible to do such a thing.

06-10-2008, 11:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
nc994run Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: blacksburg,va for school chapel hill, nc for home Posts: 818	ARB Compressor Alternative Idea I am going to be getting an ARB air locker towards the end of the summer. I wanted to get a compressor that I can use for the locker and also for an occasional air-up. My idea was to use a Superflow MV50 (150 max psi, 2.54 CFM) http://www.parksoffroad.com/prodrevi.../mv50/mv50.htm and also use a VIAIR pressure regulator (85 PSI on, 105 off) for this setup http://www.viaircorp.com/90110.html Anyone using this compressor for an ARB locker? Critiques/ Comments? __________________ Rob 1999 4Runner Limited 4x4, retrofitted e-locker/ ARB front locker with 4.88 Precision Gears, Tundra/LC lift, 2" 4Crawler BL, Nitto Mud Grappler 35's on 16x8, Marlin sliders, TJM T-15, Warn M8000 w/ synthetic line, Mad Mike's custom rear Bumper, deckplate and ISR mods, Vortex Muffler, custom made tube doors pictures here I support Banned Neliconcept

06-10-2008, 11:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
L33T35T 4Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Fountain Valley, CA (so cali) Posts: 2,002	The MV50 is a great compressor, but they arent available from Kragen anymore. There is now a new compressor, available at Pep Boys, called the SF1050 or something to that effect. They are both great compressors. I run both on my air system, but the SF1050's head started leaking. It still compresses air but tops out around 80 psi. I had to put a 1 way check valve on there or my whole air system would leak out. I have returned it three times for new compressors and they all started doing this after it ran at a high pressure (100 psi) for a short time. I've always wanted one of those pressure switches. How much do they run? __________________ 95 4Runner SR5 3.0l. V6 2 wheel drive baby! 31" Bridgeston Dueler A/T Revos. Downey 1.5 Coils. Doetsch MV-12 Shocks. Brembo Rotors. Performance Friction Pads. Pioneer head unit with 1 12" Pioneer woofer. XM Radio. RB Headlight Harness w/ Sylvania SilverStars New to the family: 85 4Runner 22RE, 4x4, 5 spd, SFA. 31" BFG All Terrain T/A KOs, genuine Walmart seat covers, "Dual" stereo, XM Radio, RB Headlight Harness w/ Sylvania SilverStars. Onboard air. Has been seafoamed to hell

06-11-2008, 12:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
nc994run Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: blacksburg,va for school chapel hill, nc for home Posts: 818	I found the MV50 on amazon for 63$ The pressure regulator runs $22 or so plus shipping, so still cheaper than a compact ARB compressor __________________ Rob 1999 4Runner Limited 4x4, retrofitted e-locker/ ARB front locker with 4.88 Precision Gears, Tundra/LC lift, 2" 4Crawler BL, Nitto Mud Grappler 35's on 16x8, Marlin sliders, TJM T-15, Warn M8000 w/ synthetic line, Mad Mike's custom rear Bumper, deckplate and ISR mods, Vortex Muffler, custom made tube doors pictures here I support Banned Neliconcept

06-11-2008, 08:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
*waskillywabbit* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 11,482	Don't try to skimp on a compressor for your ARB and etc or you will end up lockerless when you need it most. There is a FAQ thread I started about OBA systems. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC www.myspace.com/wabfab FOR SALE: 1987 4Runner GRAY FOR SALE: 1987 4Runner RED 6th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, May 22-25, 2009

06-11-2008, 10:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
crolison Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: knoxville, tn Posts: 1,594	I got my arb mini for around 80 bucks shipped off of ebay, and thats new. And i am running an mv50 i got off of ebay for 20 bucks new to fill my tires. __________________ 97 4runner, 2.7 5speed 4wd, 4.556, 255/85/16 Maxxis Bighorns rear diff breather, 4 hella 500's driving, sliders, wilderness rack custom bumper arb locked rear toytec adjustables, ome 891's, bilstein 5125 manual hubs broken front and rear swaybars My Profile

06-11-2008, 11:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
nc994run Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: blacksburg,va for school chapel hill, nc for home Posts: 818	If I could find some deals like those I would definitely run an ARB mini and an MV50 ... I'm looking into the cost of just using the high output ARB for locker and air ups __________________ Rob 1999 4Runner Limited 4x4, retrofitted e-locker/ ARB front locker with 4.88 Precision Gears, Tundra/LC lift, 2" 4Crawler BL, Nitto Mud Grappler 35's on 16x8, Marlin sliders, TJM T-15, Warn M8000 w/ synthetic line, Mad Mike's custom rear Bumper, deckplate and ISR mods, Vortex Muffler, custom made tube doors pictures here I support Banned Neliconcept

06-11-2008, 11:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
Red_Chili Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 282	I run two MV50s in tandem. The internal relays are a failure point, but as they are switched from the cab and use external relays (in my install) they are easily removed. The compressors themselves seem to be fairly well made and are holding together. Having two speeds airup, and provides redundancy. Aside from the internal relay failures there have been no others, and no leaks. Check valves are a good idea anyway. I use my front bumper as an air tank. I use the ARB pressure switch but you could use anything. Just not over 90-100psi!!! I mounted mine in the engine bay, relocating stuff as needed. I used Toyota rubber mounts for some such or other radiator on a truck- sorry I don't remember the year, nor the part number. You could use other stuff. Not impressed with the ARB compressors. BTDT. __________________ -Bill Red Chili II: 1987 SASed 5VZ-FE 4Runner with more stuff than I can afford. Not that that makes me unique 'round here. Shadowfax: 1993 minitruck. Getting the Engnbldr full meal deal. Hunting truck and DD! Bio Page Last edited by Red_Chili : 06-11-2008 at 11:15 AM.

06-11-2008, 11:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
Red_Chili Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 282	Performance. It is a single purpose unit (the older design, not the smaller obviously single purpose one). ARB makes stuff of the highest quality and excellent customer service. I have been extremely pleased with the quality of everything I have gotten from them. However, I was willing to take a chance on the MV-50s after using them as portable units. One compressor is leisurely on inflating 35. Two compressors do a respectable job. Not as fast as CO2, but not that much slower, and no tank to carry around. __________________ -Bill Red Chili II: 1987 SASed 5VZ-FE 4Runner with more stuff than I can afford. Not that that makes me unique 'round here. Shadowfax: 1993 minitruck. Getting the Engnbldr full meal deal. Hunting truck and DD! Bio Page

06-11-2008, 11:38 AM	#12 (permalink)
CJM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Central NJ Posts: 4,580	I feel an ARB would be a better idea, buy once cry one I always say. If you want one of the little compressor for your tires go for it, but dont trust it to work your locker. __________________ 96' T100 SR5 4x4, ISR mod, Custom ABS snorkel, KC 57's Hella optilux el cheapo backup lights. Cobra 19III CB, Firestick 4ft antenna, Bilstein shocks. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

06-11-2008, 12:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
Red_Chili Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 282	Sharing good fortune with you fellers... I got curious about the compressors sold on Amazon, so I had a look. I saw what must have been a typo: Master Flow MF-1050 Tsunami High Volume Portable Air Compressor for $5.00 This is the same unit as the MV50. Couldn't be accurate. Or it was fly-by-night (though Amazon guarantees this stuff). So I called the guy. He is in Missouri, apparently he buys lots of various things and sells them in volume at a discount. On this item his shipping is pretty outrageous, $9+. However, that makes the final cost less than $15, delivered. The price is real. He somehow makes money on this. Probably due to the 'shipping'. Perhaps he purchased lots of stuff from a company that was folding? No idea. I have two coming. The greedy part of me wanted to buy him out and resell them to wheelers at a modest profit. I beat that part of me back into the cave. So don't turn around and do it yourself, share with the community. __________________ -Bill Red Chili II: 1987 SASed 5VZ-FE 4Runner with more stuff than I can afford. Not that that makes me unique 'round here. Shadowfax: 1993 minitruck. Getting the Engnbldr full meal deal. Hunting truck and DD! Bio Page

06-11-2008, 12:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
nc994run Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: blacksburg,va for school chapel hill, nc for home Posts: 818	I just picked up 2 for $26! I will probably use 2 for OBA and pick up an ARB mini for the locker just to be safe. __________________ Rob 1999 4Runner Limited 4x4, retrofitted e-locker/ ARB front locker with 4.88 Precision Gears, Tundra/LC lift, 2" 4Crawler BL, Nitto Mud Grappler 35's on 16x8, Marlin sliders, TJM T-15, Warn M8000 w/ synthetic line, Mad Mike's custom rear Bumper, deckplate and ISR mods, Vortex Muffler, custom made tube doors pictures here I support Banned Neliconcept

06-12-2008, 10:56 AM	#17 (permalink)
spdjnky Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 189	did anyone ever receive the inflators from this guy? __________________ 1986 4Runner Automatic rebulit 22re OME leaf springs BJ spacers Edelbrock IAS shocks 31x10.50 Pro comp Mud Terrains