63" swap/shackles

thecaper · 08-05-2009, 05:24 PM

I have an '86 4runner, and I'm wondering if anyone has used the stock chevy shackles with their 63" swap? Any pros/cons compared to a set of 6" lift shackles?

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EWAYota · 08-05-2009, 05:39 PM

From Pirate's 63" FAQ- http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...threadid=20665

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How do I mount these loooog springs to my Toyota?
You must get a new front spring hanger and weld it on the flat part of the frame forward of the stock spring hanger.
For the rear shackle hanger, you can either go with a double shackle set-up (very popular) or weld on a new hanger back about 4 inches from stock.

Where do I get new front spring hangers?
You can either buy Jeep CJ spring hangers (some say they hang kinda low) or make your own out of 3.5" x 3.5" x 1/4" or 3/16" square tube.
You can't use the chevy front hangers they are shaped to oddly to work.

Can you explain the double shackle set-up?
Ok the double shackle set-up works like this. You connect one Toyota style shackle from the factory rear hanger (let it lay flat against the frame)
to another shackle going straight down to the spring. Most people run the stock Chevy shackle as the second one that mounts to the spring. Or you can make your own shackles.
Doing the double shackle set-up is just a cheaper and easier way to do the rear of the springs. No need to weld in a new hanger. It also gives you a bunch of extra suspension droop, which is a good thing!

89silverpu · 08-05-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EWAYota

From Pirate's 63" FAQ- http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...threadid=20665

That's a really good article. Here's the whole thread for you to look at and decide whether or not you want to do the double shackle set up. It is great for offroad, but when daily driving, it has it's set backs.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20665

thecaper · 08-05-2009, 07:22 PM

Thanks guys. I've been over the article about 100 times now... but i'm not wanting to run a double shackle set-up, just the stock chevy's from a home-grown hanger...

tc · 08-05-2009, 09:16 PM

Stock Chevy shackle is inverted. Since the frame on Toyotas doesn't neck in like the Chevy, the spring will be right below the frame, necessitating a normal "drop" shackle.

Willie B · 08-06-2009, 11:43 AM

Going to run this set up also, I went ahead and just got the Sky kit for ease of istalation.

Also does anyone know if you need to runa small shim with these, like a 3 degree or so?

sh0kk86 · 08-06-2009, 03:29 PM

best bet would be to relocate your spring perches to fix the pinio angle,

but decide if its worth it after the swap for shims or reweld the perches.

88Cleve4runner · 08-06-2009, 03:53 PM

i'm tackling this swap this weekend and early next week. so i may be able to help answer somethings or give advice next week. i'll be running the 6 in. shackles. if they don't work, shackles aren't hard to make.

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sh0kk86 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 658	best bet would be to relocate your spring perches to fix the pinio angle, but decide if its worth it after the swap for shims or reweld the perches. __________________ 1986 Toyota 22r Short bed Pickup \| 33x10.5x15 BFG MT's nick

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88Cleve4runner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: cleveland tn Posts: 260	i'm tackling this swap this weekend and early next week. so i may be able to help answer somethings or give advice next week. i'll be running the 6 in. shackles. if they don't work, shackles aren't hard to make. __________________ 88 4runner-22RE, 5sp, 33x12.50 bighorns, ARB front locker, Aussie Rear locker, sliders, rear bumper, skids, Chevy 63's,2 hella 500's 98 4runner- 3.4 auto, stocker DD my profile- http://www.yotatech.com/f77/my-profi.../#post51044313

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08-05-2009, 07:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
thecaper Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 24	Thanks guys. I've been over the article about 100 times now... but i'm not wanting to run a double shackle set-up, just the stock chevy's from a home-grown hanger...