4th Gen, 2 more 3rd Gens: internal snorkel installed

calrockx · 11-28-2004, 09:42 PM

Good Times (Lance), Nitro Hotpants (Casey), and I all got snorkelfied today. Big thanks to Bruce for all his help.

The design pretty much followed what Bruce did, see his thread here:
http://yotatech.com/showthread.php?t...hlight=snorkel

I'll let them get into the details of the mod on their rigs, but here are some of my thoughts:

- I had to switch the orientation of the power antenna within the fender. The motor assembly was pointed to the front of the truck, now to the rear.
- It's a tight fit.
- It's not terribly loud inside the cab now. When I step on the gas, it's noticible. When barely on the gas, it sounds like air hissing out of a tire, when really stepping on it, it sounds like the open deckplate mod roar x 5. I stuffed a rag in the snorkel opening from the airbox, and that muffled the sound noticibly .

My truck:

The Three Runners:

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Scofco · 11-28-2004, 09:54 PM

Wow, those look awesome!
I really need to try something like this on mine.

BruceTS · 11-28-2004, 10:05 PM

With the way the weather was yesterday and Casey's hard night of partying, I wasn't too sure if we'd get all 3 rigs finished today.

I leave a rag stuffed in my snorkel, with the deckplate out for DD, then uncork and install the deckplate plug for offroading.

Things went a lot smoother than expected, considering we got a late start, now ya'll can have fun splashing through those water puddles now!

FirstToy · 11-28-2004, 10:09 PM

Chuck,
When I saw the title I KNEW it was Lance!

great work, I remember that thread-- really ingenious.

I wonder if you can do a little solenoid door mod or something where it opens/closes with the push of a button (like a vent--fresh/recirc). A rag stuffed in is so...unchique

anyway very cool. Look forward to more pics!

bulldog-yota · 11-28-2004, 10:14 PM

I love this pic. Looks like a couple of drunk guys hanging out without their clothes on

Marc P · 11-29-2004, 05:54 AM

Those will come in handy here in the So Cal desert

kickaha · 11-29-2004, 06:32 AM

I thought there was room in there for a 4th-gen snorkle. Good to see someone go for it. Figures it was Lance as he's been out in front on nearly everything.

Good Times · 11-29-2004, 12:48 PM

it's a good mod that's cheap and also hidden

none of that visible snorkel either! btw, you can definitely hear the intake from the inside of the cab but it sounds kinda cool

gets abit loud when you floor it though but it's one way to control that lead foot!!

kickaha · 11-29-2004, 02:18 PM

A few questions about your 4th-gen, if you don't mind.

1. Have you noticed any decrease in performance?
2. Is there some type of DD/off-road bypass valve or deckplate or something else that switches between the snorkle and a more direct intake?
3. Does it come out in the cab? It looks like it might be right under the glove box?

I'll definately be doing that mod. Hats off to whoever came up with it.

SEAN_at_TLT · 11-29-2004, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kickaha

I'll definately be doing that mod. Hats off to whoever came up with it.

Chris Geiger was the first I saw to do it but I think he got the idea from someone else, not sure...

Either way, much better than the fugly ARB ones, YUCK!

Good Times · 11-29-2004, 03:37 PM

I'm not sure where this system first originated but I first saw it on 4x4wire's site with a 2nd gen doing a similar mod (but his mod went back into the bay). So this version is no different but effective and cheap. (did i mention cheap!?)

Added performance? Not sure but atleast I don't have to worry about sucking up water which is all I care. The problem is that I've taken my entire inner fender so that meant that the intake had free access to all the water so this was going to be a problem. It was a matter of time that i would either hydrolock the motor or get this mod done. luckily Bruce already did the mod first so it was easier to do w/ someone that has done it before watching over me.

I haven't done the deckplate mod as my 2nd battery is sitting up against the intake box so i won't be doing it. Which means this setup is fulltime and won't be coming off. I'm not looking to race or anything so this will work fine and will be better for me as it won't suck up dust

for the 4th gen, the hole goes up to the ecu location so making sure to seal up the hole is critical as you don't want to fry anything.

and i'm w/ sean, that arb one is fugly! might look cool but i kinda like the sleeper look too!

steelhead · 11-29-2004, 03:41 PM

That look awesome guys! Is a write-up coming on this one?

kickaha · 11-29-2004, 04:53 PM

I thought there might be a decrease in performance (not an increase) because of the extra long tubing. But since you haven't noticed anything, probably not. Maybe the extra noise makes it seem faster?

Robinhood150 · 11-29-2004, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Good Times

might look cool but i kinda like the sleeper look too!

Ummm...sleeper look? And here I thought all 4th gens came with 33" MTRs, sliders, suspension lift, body lift, a huge rear bumper with tire and hilift carrier and a huge front bumper with winch.

BruceTS · 11-29-2004, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kickaha

A few questions about your 4th-gen, if you don't mind.

1. Have you noticed any decrease in performance?
2. Is there some type of DD/off-road bypass valve or deckplate or something else that switches between the snorkle and a more direct intake?
3. Does it come out in the cab? It looks like it might be right under the glove box?

I'll definately be doing that mod. Hats off to whoever came up with it.

This snorkel design, shouldn't affect performance in any way, in fact on the 3rd gens it actually helps air flow and the performance gains is like doing the deckplate mod.

I've been pondering the idea of installing a butterfly valve to switch it on and off, but I've been too busy to fabricate it. So far the rag has held up quite well

The intake is inside the cab, so there will be an increased amount of noise, but for offroading you don't even notice.

I got the idea from seeing a few 2nd gen http://www.off-road.com/toyota/cheaptricks/snorkel/ home made systems, but all of theirs had the intake going to the fresh air vent outside the cab. I'm not sure how Chris did his design, I don't think I've seen that one.

Here's my original post on the system;
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=25167

Darx · 11-29-2004, 09:13 PM

Very cool fellas! I think if I ever do that I'll go for the periscope mod and get the ARB!

SEAN_at_TLT · 11-30-2004, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceTS

I got the idea from seeing a few 2nd gen http://www.off-road.com/toyota/cheaptricks/snorkel/ home made systems, but all of theirs had the intake going to the fresh air vent outside the cab. I'm not sure how Chris did his design, I don't think I've seen that one.

Here's my original post on the system;
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=25167

Bruce, Chris' snorkel was inspired by the maroon 2nd gen in the link Ryan T provided. Your's is the first I know of to draw air form the cab.

Nitro Hotpants · 11-30-2004, 11:54 AM

well im posting a little late but here goes anyway...

i just wanna thank Bruce for helping us out, and Lance for practically doing most of the pipe work for me!
cutting that hole in the sheet metal is definitely no fun!

sorry i couldnt have made it there a little earlier, but u know how it is turning 21 the day before...

-Casey

ranma21 · 12-01-2004, 10:19 AM

Good job guys!! I am going to do this too!!!

914runner · 12-01-2004, 01:29 PM

Looks good guys! I think if I want a snorkle I will have to do this since no one makes a passenger side snorkle for 2nd gens?
Thanks

Chris_Geiger · 12-08-2004, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEAN_at_TLT

Chris Geiger was the first I saw to do it but I think he got the idea from someone else, not sure

I got the idea for this after seing the one Allen Jenson installed on his 2nd gen 4Runner.

Blizzard · 12-09-2004, 04:19 AM

Hello all,

I've been thinking about that mod on my diesel 2nd gen but...

What about the intake noise? I think you'll hear pssssss all time...

And what about the heater/AC? If you put the heater/AC on and the intake will breathe in the cold/cool air and will be like having none AC/Heater...

Thx,

David

calrockx · 12-21-2004, 11:34 PM

tonight i was riding with a friend who hadn't been in my truck since the snorkel install, and when he heard it, he wondered what all the increased noise was about. i told him i swapped in a 4.7 iforce v8 in there, and he thought i was bluffing, but i kept serious about it, giving it some gas to help erase his doubts. finally in the drive though line at in n out i said go check it and popped the hood. he got out, and the first thing i see after the hood lowers are two middle fingers aimed right at me haha

it was grand.

Nitro Hotpants · 12-21-2004, 11:39 PM

another good use is to really step on it and around 4k RPM it gets sooooooo loud and droned that the person in the passenger seat cant hear a thing, its quite annoying.
so for those really bad dates, just step on it everywhere, and annoy the crap outta the passenger.

OutdoorLiving · 07-28-2006, 10:14 AM

*bump*

Calrockx, can you fix the broken pic links?

11-28-2004, 09:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Scofco Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,577	Wow, those look awesome! I really need to try something like this on mine. __________________

11-28-2004, 10:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
bulldog-yota Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Morgan Hill, CA Posts: 1,876	I love this pic. Looks like a couple of drunk guys hanging out without their clothes on __________________ ___________________ ***andries*** 03 Pavement Princess 05 Mall Queen

11-29-2004, 05:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
Marc P Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Santee, CA Posts: 2,736	Those will come in handy here in the So Cal desert __________________ 1995 4Runner---SAS with goodies

11-29-2004, 06:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
kickaha Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 446	I thought there was room in there for a 4th-gen snorkle. Good to see someone go for it. Figures it was Lance as he's been out in front on nearly everything. __________________ BuyerBeware!

11-29-2004, 12:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
Good Times Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,693	it's a good mod that's cheap and also hidden none of that visible snorkel either! btw, you can definitely hear the intake from the inside of the cab but it sounds kinda cool gets abit loud when you floor it though but it's one way to control that lead foot!! __________________ 2003 4runner SR5 4x4 Chaos Edition Chaos Edition! Operation Rebuild Chaos Edition Need to reach me or ask questions? You can find me here!

11-28-2004, 10:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
BruceTS Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,317	With the way the weather was yesterday and Casey's hard night of partying, I wasn't too sure if we'd get all 3 rigs finished today. I leave a rag stuffed in my snorkel, with the deckplate out for DD, then uncork and install the deckplate plug for offroading. Things went a lot smoother than expected, considering we got a late start, now ya'll can have fun splashing through those water puddles now!

11-29-2004, 02:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
kickaha Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 446	A few questions about your 4th-gen, if you don't mind. 1. Have you noticed any decrease in performance? 2. Is there some type of DD/off-road bypass valve or deckplate or something else that switches between the snorkle and a more direct intake? 3. Does it come out in the cab? It looks like it might be right under the glove box? I'll definately be doing that mod. Hats off to whoever came up with it. __________________ BuyerBeware!

11-29-2004, 03:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
Good Times Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,693	I'm not sure where this system first originated but I first saw it on 4x4wire's site with a 2nd gen doing a similar mod (but his mod went back into the bay). So this version is no different but effective and cheap. (did i mention cheap!?) Added performance? Not sure but atleast I don't have to worry about sucking up water which is all I care. The problem is that I've taken my entire inner fender so that meant that the intake had free access to all the water so this was going to be a problem. It was a matter of time that i would either hydrolock the motor or get this mod done. luckily Bruce already did the mod first so it was easier to do w/ someone that has done it before watching over me. I haven't done the deckplate mod as my 2nd battery is sitting up against the intake box so i won't be doing it. Which means this setup is fulltime and won't be coming off. I'm not looking to race or anything so this will work fine and will be better for me as it won't suck up dust for the 4th gen, the hole goes up to the ecu location so making sure to seal up the hole is critical as you don't want to fry anything. and i'm w/ sean, that arb one is fugly! might look cool but i kinda like the sleeper look too! __________________ 2003 4runner SR5 4x4 Chaos Edition Chaos Edition! Operation Rebuild Chaos Edition Need to reach me or ask questions? You can find me here!

11-29-2004, 03:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
steelhead Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 286	That look awesome guys! Is a write-up coming on this one? __________________ 2002 Tacoma TRD 4X4 V6 2.5" Camburg Coilovers, Camburg A-Arms, Amsoil air filter, Amsoil S-2000 in all running gear, Deckplate mod, Airaid intake, 24" magnaflow

11-29-2004, 04:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
kickaha Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 446	I thought there might be a decrease in performance (not an increase) because of the extra long tubing. But since you haven't noticed anything, probably not. Maybe the extra noise makes it seem faster? __________________ BuyerBeware!

11-29-2004, 09:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
Darx Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 709	Very cool fellas! I think if I ever do that I'll go for the periscope mod and get the ARB! __________________ Matt

11-30-2004, 11:54 AM	#18 (permalink)
Nitro Hotpants Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,135	well im posting a little late but here goes anyway... i just wanna thank Bruce for helping us out, and Lance for practically doing most of the pipe work for me! cutting that hole in the sheet metal is definitely no fun! sorry i couldnt have made it there a little earlier, but u know how it is turning 21 the day before... -Casey __________________ 2WD 4Runner with 4WD running gear SOME PICS!

12-01-2004, 10:19 AM	#19 (permalink)
ranma21 Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: irving/dallas Posts: 1,010	Good job guys!! I am going to do this too!!! __________________ 1996 4Runner V6 4X4 SR5 5 Speed, Amsoil air filter, Amzoil motor oil and filter, 99++ headlight and grille, 01 tail lamps Swayaway Racerunner, OME rear lift, 275/70/16 Bridgestone Dueler AT Revo, Auto dimming mirror w/ compass/temp, customized limited grey power leather seat, Husky liners all around, Demello rock slider, TJM-15 bumper, 99++ console cup holder mod, thinking about 3.01 KZ-TE or 1KD-FTV turbo diesel swap

12-01-2004, 01:29 PM	#20 (permalink)
914runner Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tigard, Oregon Posts: 2,083	Looks good guys! I think if I want a snorkle I will have to do this since no one makes a passenger side snorkle for 2nd gens? Thanks __________________ 1997 Toyota 4Runner, 3.4L (5VZ-FE), 5-Speed (R150F), 4WD, 4.10's, 33's 1998 Toyota 4Runner, 3.4L (5VZ-FE), 5-Speed (R150F), 4WD, 4.10's, 33's 1991 Toyota 4Runner 4 Door, 3.4l (5VZ-FE), 5-Speed (R150F), 4WD, 32's, 4.10's

12-09-2004, 04:19 AM	#22 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	Hello all, I've been thinking about that mod on my diesel 2nd gen but... What about the intake noise? I think you'll hear pssssss all time... And what about the heater/AC? If you put the heater/AC on and the intake will breathe in the cold/cool air and will be like having none AC/Heater... Thx, David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

12-21-2004, 11:34 PM	#23 (permalink)
calrockx Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 4,742	more fun uses for an internal snorkel: fool your friends! tonight i was riding with a friend who hadn't been in my truck since the snorkel install, and when he heard it, he wondered what all the increased noise was about. i told him i swapped in a 4.7 iforce v8 in there, and he thought i was bluffing, but i kept serious about it, giving it some gas to help erase his doubts. finally in the drive though line at in n out i said go check it and popped the hood. he got out, and the first thing i see after the hood lowers are two middle fingers aimed right at me haha it was grand. __________________ [2002 4Runner 4WD]

12-21-2004, 11:39 PM	#24 (permalink)
Nitro Hotpants Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,135	another good use is to really step on it and around 4k RPM it gets sooooooo loud and droned that the person in the passenger seat cant hear a thing, its quite annoying. so for those really bad dates, just step on it everywhere, and annoy the crap outta the passenger. __________________ 2WD 4Runner with 4WD running gear SOME PICS!

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