Tundra Plant News

scuba · 07-09-2008, 11:14 PM

So living in San Antonio has its ups and downs.
Mostly downs but we'll leave that out.

Im watching the news and apparently the plant here in SA is planning suspending production of the trucks until next year.
Also, they say that the plant in Indiana wont make the single cabs anymore and all tundras will be produced here.
This is all pending an announcement tomorrow by Toyota Execs.

Thoughts, Opinions ??

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zlathim · 07-10-2008, 06:50 AM

They're not selling many full size rigs these days. Value is already way down. Had to happen.

TexanTaco · 07-11-2008, 02:52 PM

I'm thinking about buying a new Tundra for this very reason. The surplus on some dealership lots is crazy. One of the large Yota dealers close to me has over 800 in stock!! When you do a new inventory search on their website for the Tundra it loads over 40 pages.

**4x4Fink** · 07-11-2008, 03:01 PM

I love my Tacoma.
24mpg =

I had heard this too...not really a huge shock if you look at the economy.

Anybody see the price of oil today?
$145.08/barrell!

How about the Dow??
-128.48pts to 11,100.54! That's only about 94pts from the record low for the past year - which happened yesterday!

Scary stuff guys...

Fink

scuba · 07-11-2008, 04:21 PM

Yeah i figured most people dont want those things due to the gas prices.
I mean, People like to freak out and over react, but if you look at it its maybe 5-10 bucks more per tank ??!
big deal.
but, my dad made a wise choice buying his yaris last year, 35-40 mpg, cant really beat that.

History repeats itself right ??

Vermejo · 07-11-2008, 08:01 PM

When they go back into production it will be interesting to see what happens to quality, already an issue with Tundra. Get em while their hot... I guess.

**DeathCougar** · 07-11-2008, 09:35 PM

Toyota is also moving production of the Prius to the US.

Goodbye quality.

**4x4Fink** · 07-11-2008, 10:26 PM

Yeah, it's tough to admit but the future is not looking so good for Toyota.
They will always be a good car. I'm just afraid they'll lose the edge they had over the competition.

Fink

TexanTaco · 07-14-2008, 12:06 PM

Well luckily Toyota is somewhat prepared for all of this, they haven't relied on Tundra, Sequoia, and Land Cruiser sales. They have a very diversified lineup, and enough money in the bank to halt production of the Tundra.

*I* hope to see a new Toyota emerge from all of this with smaller vehicles and smaller more fuel efficient engines. Look at how big the 4Runner, Tacoma, and Tundra have become. I mean the Tacoma really can't be considered a small/midsize truck anymore. I decided against buying a Tundra, even though I could get an amazing deal. I don't NEED a truck that big, they are insanely huge. Toyota needs to downsize, just like all the big American companies. Toyota was forced to go "big" to compete in the SUV and truck segments, but hopefully they will go back to their roots.

X-AWDriver · 07-15-2008, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scuba

Yeah i figured most people dont want those things due to the gas prices.
I mean, People like to freak out and over react, but if you look at it its maybe 5-10 bucks more per tank ??!
big deal.

But in the not so distant future that $5-10 bucks extra will continue to go up and might be a few more hundred a year and some people who have families and other bills this will be a big deal. And what tank are you comparing this too? The Tundra's tank is over 26 gallons so $5/gal is about $120 a tank and add another dollar and you are about at $150 and those measly MPGs aren't helping.

Toyota had bad timing on making the Tundra's sibling in the debut of the monster Sequoia.

I feel for people who have to have a truck for their jobs and whatnot but I think we are seeing the end of people with trucks that are just ego haulers and there's plenty of those around here.

TexanTaco · 07-15-2008, 09:27 AM

^ I think you're right, and it's amazing how higher gas prices can cause these types of changes. I guess it goes to show how tight a budget some families can be on. The new Tundra and Sequoia (not to mention all the other large trucks/SUVs) are excess for most people, plain and simple. Do *most* people need to tow 10,000lbs?? Of course not. And most families don't actually need the living room on wheels that is the Sequoia.

In a way I'm almost glad that gas prices are making people come back to earth and realize we don't need such large vehicles. I know that everyone wants to live a nice comfortable life, but things were getting out of control.

hross14 · 07-15-2008, 01:29 PM

there were alot of good points made from this post.

--I agree--newer toyotas are getting to large
--History repeats itself (dont forget China is adding driver like crazy)
--Crazy huge cars for two kids--Mom and a Pinto with 5 kids--thats how we rolled
--People Spending within thier means
--Moving closer to work--back in the day--60 miles was a pretty long drive

And last but not least population growth--we dont need big families anymore--each person added just means an additional strain on resources--plain and simple supply and demand.

I am not advocating population control--but i think we need to start thinking do we really need to give into the "Clock" so many times (thats for the ladies not the men) LOL Please take this with a grain of salt

**DeathCougar** · 07-15-2008, 02:36 PM

I agree 100%. Large families are, and should be a thing of the past.

In case people weren't paying attention, 5 billion people on the planet should just about cover it

But humans dont care, and in general are a selfish race who will continue to have children at exponential rates.

scuba · 07-15-2008, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-AWDriver

But in the not so distant future that $5-10 bucks extra will continue to go up and might be a few more hundred a year and some people who have families and other bills this will be a big deal. And what tank are you comparing this too?

Im comparing, the 30 cent rise since the winter.
in my 16 gallon tank thats 3.20 rise.

But yes, cars are getting wayy to huge.

Team420 · 07-16-2008, 05:39 AM

I am actually thinking about buying a new tundra, The fully loaded tundra is almost the same price as the fully loaded taco up here....it seems these dealer cant give away these large trucks, and I intend to prosper from it. I have to have a truck for work, and i bet the new i-force v8 gets better mpg's than my runners 3vze's. Which is pretty sad if you think about it.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 07-16-2008, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathCougar

I agree 100%. Large families are, and should be a thing of the past.

In case people weren't paying attention, 5 billion people on the planet should just about cover it

But humans dont care, and in general are a selfish race who will continue to have children at exponential rates.

here in cali, its mostly the Latino population that is having kids at exponential rates. i mean on a lot of cars you see the back window completely covered with stickers representing their kids. now im not saying its only them, i know a white couple that had like 12 kids, just because they COULD. it doesnt make sense to me. when i have a family, ill have at most 3 kids. id like just one, but cant guarentee the future girl will only want 1.
oh, BOT. those new tundras and sequoias are monsters... i mean i think the sequoia is bigger than my moms expedition.. (that now we only use as a 2nd car and for road trips)... its crazy that the sequoias bigger.. theres a reason ford stopped making the excursion

alliekay · 07-18-2008, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathCougar

I agree 100%. Large families are, and should be a thing of the past.

In case people weren't paying attention, 5 billion people on the planet should just about cover it

But humans dont care, and in general are a selfish race who will continue to have children at exponential rates.

Over 95% of the world is still entirely uninhabited by people. I travel a lot and have been on several different continents and I would not consider the world overpopulated. I see only untapped potential everywhere I go.
As for the size of families. That is a personal choice and one that I respect. If people want a big family and can afford it, then that is their choice. Your opinion of mankind in general seems pretty low.

alliekay · 07-18-2008, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathCougar

Toyota is also moving production of the Prius to the US.

Goodbye quality.

I thought the Prius was made in SF, California?
Also heard they were moving the plant out of state due to high taxation and over-regulation.
I wanted a new Tundra but the flex fuel version is not available now until around December.

alliekay · 07-18-2008, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

here in cali, its mostly the Latino population that is having kids at exponential rates. i mean on a lot of cars you see the back window completely covered with stickers representing their kids. now im not saying its only them, i know a white couple that had like 12 kids, just because they COULD. it doesnt make sense to me. when i have a family, ill have at most 3 kids. id like just one, but cant guarentee the future girl will only want 1.
oh, BOT. those new tundras and sequoias are monsters... i mean i think the sequoia is bigger than my moms expedition.. (that now we only use as a 2nd car and for road trips)... its crazy that the sequoias bigger.. theres a reason ford stopped making the excursion

I think the fuel economy on the new Sequoia is actually better than the previous generation. Too big for my needs anyway but I still see alot of them on the road around here.

josephah2000 · 07-19-2008, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

here in cali, its mostly the Latino population that is having kids at exponential rates. i mean on a lot of cars you see the back window completely covered with stickers representing their kids. now im not saying its only them, i know a white couple that had like 12 kids, just because they COULD. it doesnt make sense to me. when i have a family, ill have at most 3 kids. id like just one, but cant guarentee the future girl will only want 1.
oh, BOT. those new tundras and sequoias are monsters... i mean i think the sequoia is bigger than my moms expedition.. (that now we only use as a 2nd car and for road trips)... its crazy that the sequoias bigger.. theres a reason ford stopped making the excursion

Hey I'm part of the "Latino" population and my wife and I only have 2 kids!!! And no tinted windows with stickers. You are generalizing too much. That's like me saying that near my house there is a huge population of fat "white" hillbilly people that live in a trailer park....represent the "white" population. Duh they don't!

Oh by the way, I used to own a 1988 Toyota 4wd p/u. It had 253,000 original miles when I sold it in 1998 for a 1998 Tacoma 4wd, trd. Great truck!

But being in San Antonio and now with the Toyota plant halting production it is really a sign of the times and show how dependent industries are on the price of gas. I remember in an economics class the prof stated that the price of gas is inelastic, meaning you'l' buy it no matter the cost and the demand will be unchanged, and I can agree with that but what the books didn't say is that everything else can be affected!!!

**DeathCougar** · 07-19-2008, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josephah2000

Hey I'm part of the "Latino" population and my wife and I only have 2 kids!!! And no tinted windows with stickers. You are generalizing too much. That's like me saying that near my house there is a huge population of fat "white" hillbilly people that live in a trailer park....represent the "white" population. Duh they don't!

Oh by the way, I used to own a 1988 Toyota 4wd p/u. It had 253,000 original miles when I sold it in 1998 for a 1998 Tacoma 4wd, trd. Great truck!

But being in San Antonio and now with the Toyota plant halting production it is really a sign of the times and show how dependent industries are on the price of gas. I remember in an economics class the prof stated that the price of gas is inelastic, meaning you'l' buy it no matter the cost and the demand will be unchanged, and I can agree with that but what the books didn't say is that everything else can be affected!!!

With all respect my friend, the exception only proves the rule. The stats are out there, and what Ozzies says is 100% correct. Latino birthrates outpace all other ethnicities. Quick search on google brings up many sites and much info related. Since we're trying to stay on topic, i won't post them up and clutter up the thread.

IMHO, the toyota "Middle Ground" SUV's and trucks are dying. The tundra and sequoia are good examples of this. The Tundra, while larger now, is still not capable of heavy loads while performing with great power. They don't have a diesel option for godsake!

josephah2000 · 07-19-2008, 11:11 AM

You are right and no harm done. But it is off topic with this specific discussion. Ozzie also mentioned his/her white friends have 12 kids. One couple doesn't represent the whole? Therefore, this specific Calif. Latinos group being referred to do not represent all Latinos whether in Calif. or anywhere else. Can you agree with that? Again, we don't all concentrate on making many babies, tinting our windows, etching our names on those windows, ..... Kind of sounds like an ignorant remark. And yes I've seen stats that minority populations are growing faster than the majority "white - all in one group" population and in the future the status will change.

Besides what does the Latino population have to do with Tundra's and Sequoia's??? It shouldn't even be in the discussion.

It's always good to hear a different perspective.

**DeathCougar** · 07-19-2008, 11:58 AM

Many parts in Toyotas are assembled in Mexico....lawl

BT17R · 09-29-2008, 05:28 PM

Just saw this thread. Tundra/Sequoia production was idled for a few months and centralized in TX (formerly split with IN). Same with the AL V-8 plant.

However, nobody was laid off. Instead, associates were given other work until the plants resume production.

I posted what the future holds for Toyota here:

http://www.yotatech.com/f5/these-good-old-days-155592/

Toyota has weathered far tougher times than this and came out stronger for it. This time they're even better prepared than the early-mid '80's with worldwide production and the third generation of hybrids rolling out soon.

**4x4Fink** · 09-29-2008, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BT17R

Just saw this thread. Tundra/Sequoia production was idled for a few months and centralized in TX (formerly split with IN). Same with the AL V-8 plant.

However, nobody was laid off. Instead, associates were given other work until the plants resume production.

I posted what the future holds for Toyota here:

http://www.yotatech.com/f5/these-good-old-days-155592/

Toyota has weathered far tougher times than this and came out stronger for it. This time they're even better prepared than the early-mid '80's with worldwide production and the third generation of hybrids rolling out soon.

Exactly, I think this will be a good thing for Toyota.

There aren't many manufacturers that have the resources and know-how that Toyota does.

With Toyota being the pioneer of Hybrid technology - I predict that in the next few years Toyota will do nothing but prove why they are the #1 automobile manufacturer in the world.

Fink

07-10-2008, 06:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
zlathim Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,185	They're not selling many full size rigs these days. Value is already way down. Had to happen. __________________ Do you think Einstein walked around thinking everyone was a bunch of dipsticks? Idiocracy (edited for family friendly viewing)

07-11-2008, 02:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
TexanTaco Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Allen, TX Posts: 246	I'm thinking about buying a new Tundra for this very reason. The surplus on some dealership lots is crazy. One of the large Yota dealers close to me has over 800 in stock!! When you do a new inventory search on their website for the Tundra it loads over 40 pages. __________________ 2004 Tacoma Xtra Cab/PreRunner/SR5/TRD 1998 4Runner Limited

07-11-2008, 03:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
4x4Fink Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Centerton, AR Posts: 5,952	I love my Tacoma. 24mpg = I had heard this too...not really a huge shock if you look at the economy. Anybody see the price of oil today? $145.08/barrell! How about the Dow?? -128.48pts to 11,100.54! That's only about 94pts from the record low for the past year - which happened yesterday! Scary stuff guys... Fink __________________ 1985 4Runner 22RE 4WD "Ratchet" 2007 Tacoma Double Cab SB 4x4 V6 TRD Sport AR-TTORA "My work number is 9-1-1."

07-11-2008, 04:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,968	Yeah i figured most people dont want those things due to the gas prices. I mean, People like to freak out and over react, but if you look at it its maybe 5-10 bucks more per tank ??! big deal. but, my dad made a wise choice buying his yaris last year, 35-40 mpg, cant really beat that. History repeats itself right ?? __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA Mods, please be mature and leave my sig alone, thanks. No, I will not be your friend.

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07-11-2008, 10:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
4x4Fink Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Centerton, AR Posts: 5,952	Yeah, it's tough to admit but the future is not looking so good for Toyota. They will always be a good car. I'm just afraid they'll lose the edge they had over the competition. Fink __________________ 1985 4Runner 22RE 4WD "Ratchet" 2007 Tacoma Double Cab SB 4x4 V6 TRD Sport AR-TTORA "My work number is 9-1-1."

07-14-2008, 12:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
TexanTaco Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Allen, TX Posts: 246	Well luckily Toyota is somewhat prepared for all of this, they haven't relied on Tundra, Sequoia, and Land Cruiser sales. They have a very diversified lineup, and enough money in the bank to halt production of the Tundra. I hope to see a new Toyota emerge from all of this with smaller vehicles and smaller more fuel efficient engines. Look at how big the 4Runner, Tacoma, and Tundra have become. I mean the Tacoma really can't be considered a small/midsize truck anymore. I decided against buying a Tundra, even though I could get an amazing deal. I don't NEED a truck that big, they are insanely huge. Toyota needs to downsize, just like all the big American companies. Toyota was forced to go "big" to compete in the SUV and truck segments, but hopefully they will go back to their roots. __________________ 2004 Tacoma Xtra Cab/PreRunner/SR5/TRD 1998 4Runner Limited

07-15-2008, 09:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
TexanTaco Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Allen, TX Posts: 246	^ I think you're right, and it's amazing how higher gas prices can cause these types of changes. I guess it goes to show how tight a budget some families can be on. The new Tundra and Sequoia (not to mention all the other large trucks/SUVs) are excess for most people, plain and simple. Do most people need to tow 10,000lbs?? Of course not. And most families don't actually need the living room on wheels that is the Sequoia. In a way I'm almost glad that gas prices are making people come back to earth and realize we don't need such large vehicles. I know that everyone wants to live a nice comfortable life, but things were getting out of control. __________________ 2004 Tacoma Xtra Cab/PreRunner/SR5/TRD 1998 4Runner Limited

07-15-2008, 01:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
hross14 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 1,169	there were alot of good points made from this post. --I agree--newer toyotas are getting to large --History repeats itself (dont forget China is adding driver like crazy) --Crazy huge cars for two kids--Mom and a Pinto with 5 kids--thats how we rolled --People Spending within thier means --Moving closer to work--back in the day--60 miles was a pretty long drive And last but not least population growth--we dont need big families anymore--each person added just means an additional strain on resources--plain and simple supply and demand. I am not advocating population control--but i think we need to start thinking do we really need to give into the "Clock" so many times (thats for the ladies not the men) LOL Please take this with a grain of salt __________________ Yes, I said "country." America really is a nation, but you couldn't convince those who lead the Democratic and Republican Parties of that. Both parties now see America as nothing more than an economy, a marketplace, and not a sovereign nation. They don't see you and me as citizens of this great nation; they see us as units of labor, consumers and taxpayers. Yes, I am here to collect my 238$ worth of stock from AIG. "What do you mean a free market economy doesnt apply to the rich?"

07-19-2008, 11:11 AM	#22 (permalink)
josephah2000 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 32	You are right and no harm done. But it is off topic with this specific discussion. Ozzie also mentioned his/her white friends have 12 kids. One couple doesn't represent the whole? Therefore, this specific Calif. Latinos group being referred to do not represent all Latinos whether in Calif. or anywhere else. Can you agree with that? Again, we don't all concentrate on making many babies, tinting our windows, etching our names on those windows, ..... Kind of sounds like an ignorant remark. And yes I've seen stats that minority populations are growing faster than the majority "white - all in one group" population and in the future the status will change. Besides what does the Latino population have to do with Tundra's and Sequoia's??? It shouldn't even be in the discussion. It's always good to hear a different perspective.

09-29-2008, 05:28 PM	#24 (permalink)
BT17R Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Da Gorge, Oregon Posts: 5,673	Just saw this thread. Tundra/Sequoia production was idled for a few months and centralized in TX (formerly split with IN). Same with the AL V-8 plant. However, nobody was laid off. Instead, associates were given other work until the plants resume production. I posted what the future holds for Toyota here: http://www.yotatech.com/f5/these-good-old-days-155592/ Toyota has weathered far tougher times than this and came out stronger for it. This time they're even better prepared than the early-mid '80's with worldwide production and the third generation of hybrids rolling out soon. __________________ '07 FJ Cruiser TRD SE 6M/T

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