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Tundra 4wd conversion
#1
Tundra 4wd conversion
After looking at all the taco and 4runner conversions and looking pretty carefully under my truck, i decided to start a 4wd conversion on my truck. I'm starting with a 2000 4.7 V8 2wd Limited Access Cab and i'll end up with a more or less factory IFS 4wd setup. I have seen some SASed tundras but I think I may be the first to do a stock type conversion (please correct me if I'm wrong on that).
At the same time, i'll be putting in a diff drop, putting in new 5100 adjustables in the front and 5100s in the back, re-gearing for larger tires in the future, switching to TRD front springs, new ball joints and polyurethane steering bushings which should fix all the slop in the old suspension and steering.
Yes, i could have sold the truck and bought a 4wd model, but I didn't want to. I like my truck, it was a graduation gift and i plan to keep it for a long time. I could have done a SAS instead but that is big money for a tundra, more downtime, lots of cutting and an IFS setup is capable enough for me.
After doing A LOT of research, I've found that the procedure is very similar to a tacoma or 4runner swap with a couple of exceptions pretty much all of which are because of the torque from the v8. There is a lot more in common with these trucks than people realize.
Things that are exactly the same as tacos and 4runners:
Things that are different:
And finally, the status of the parts list:
At the same time, i'll be putting in a diff drop, putting in new 5100 adjustables in the front and 5100s in the back, re-gearing for larger tires in the future, switching to TRD front springs, new ball joints and polyurethane steering bushings which should fix all the slop in the old suspension and steering.
Yes, i could have sold the truck and bought a 4wd model, but I didn't want to. I like my truck, it was a graduation gift and i plan to keep it for a long time. I could have done a SAS instead but that is big money for a tundra, more downtime, lots of cutting and an IFS setup is capable enough for me.
After doing A LOT of research, I've found that the procedure is very similar to a tacoma or 4runner swap with a couple of exceptions pretty much all of which are because of the torque from the v8. There is a lot more in common with these trucks than people realize.
Things that are exactly the same as tacos and 4runners:
- spindles
- front diff
- rear gears
- transfercase (i think)
Things that are different:
- front CVs (inner different, outer the same, shaft 3" longer)
- transmissions (externally the same but NOT internally the same)
- driveshafts
- transmission cross member (different from 2wd tundra)
And finally, the status of the parts list:
- spindles - 2003 tacoma w/ ADD and ABS
- front diff - 2001 tacoma, 4.30 gears electric ADD control
- rear gears - 2001 tacoma, 4.30 to match front diff
- CVs - new 2000-2006 tundra
- transmission/transfercase/crossmember - 2003 tundra
- front drive shaft - 2003 Tundra
- TRD springs - 2001 tundra
#3
Cool thread caligula! I am interested to see how this works out for you.
I have a 2000 sr5 AC 4x4. If you need pics or anything, let me know and I will do my best to help you out.
I have a 2000 sr5 AC 4x4. If you need pics or anything, let me know and I will do my best to help you out.
#4
Thanks, i've stuck my head all the 4x4 tundras i've seen parked on the street to check out how different things were mounted while i was researching the swap, but that would be much easier.
#7
$800 in upgrades/maintenance that needed to happen anyway (shocks were shot, ball joints, rear seals, O2 sensor)
$0 Labor
hopefully i can get some $ out of the parts i pull. all in all not to expensive considering all the used parts have half the miles of the rest of my truck, the drivetrain only has 15k on it!
awsome, i'll be putting up more pictures as well.
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#8
Sorry caligula, I had to attend a preschool function for my son last night. I did snap a few pics, but I am thinking that they are worthless because they don't show much. I think the best thing to do is jack it up and pull the wheels (and maybe the skid plate)in order to get better pics. I'll get some this weekend and post them up.
#9
Sorry caligula, I had to attend a preschool function for my son last night. I did snap a few pics, but I am thinking that they are worthless because they don't show much. I think the best thing to do is jack it up and pull the wheels (and maybe the skid plate)in order to get better pics. I'll get some this weekend and post them up.
I'm going to pick up the transmission, transfercase and driveshafts this afternoon so I'll have some pictures to put up here tonight as well.
#11
more parts!
picked up the transmission, transfercase and both drive shafts on the way home from work. all off a 2004 with only 15,532 miles!!
here is everything:
transmission:
this F on the bell housing really threw me cause i was expecting a U, thought they had mixed it up with a v6 some how pulling the part off the shelf, but they didn't.
transfercase:
torque converter and front drive shaft
rear drive shaft
ring and pinion:
here is everything:
transmission:
this F on the bell housing really threw me cause i was expecting a U, thought they had mixed it up with a v6 some how pulling the part off the shelf, but they didn't.
transfercase:
torque converter and front drive shaft
rear drive shaft
ring and pinion:
#13
front shocks and springs done
moved the TRD coils on to the new Bilstein 5100 adjustable shocks today and got them on the truck. it wasnt all that hard and the spring compressor didn't give me any trouble at all, did it all with a ratchet. also looked like it had never been used before so that may be why.
on to the bilstein
ready to install
the drivers side didnt go as easily, the inner fender is different and made getting to the back nut impossible. quick cut with a dremmel helped.
before/after
now it sits nice and level, a little high in the front but it will come down with the differential and axles installed.
on to the bilstein
ready to install
the drivers side didnt go as easily, the inner fender is different and made getting to the back nut impossible. quick cut with a dremmel helped.
before/after
now it sits nice and level, a little high in the front but it will come down with the differential and axles installed.
#14
Nice work caligula. At this rate you will have your truck fully converted before my slacker a$$ gets any pics for you.
I hope to get some today. If not, just consider me a flake...
I hope to get some today. If not, just consider me a flake...
#16
shock boots
i forgot that i needed the dust boots from the stock shocks on the new bilsteins so i took the stock ones apart this morning. the top nut was so rusted i could only get it off far enough to get a hack saw blade in. now to tear the front half of the truck down again to put the boots on . . .
#18
boots went on in about 2 hours.
i'm stuck waiting on spindles, ball joints and CV dust boots then i'll be ready to finish off the front end. next is re-gearing the rear diff. i have some electrics to sort out before the tranny is ready to go in and i'd like to test the drive train controls on the bench before installing. the next big hurdle is finding a 4wd ecu and pigtail.
i'm stuck waiting on spindles, ball joints and CV dust boots then i'll be ready to finish off the front end. next is re-gearing the rear diff. i have some electrics to sort out before the tranny is ready to go in and i'd like to test the drive train controls on the bench before installing. the next big hurdle is finding a 4wd ecu and pigtail.
#19
spindles arived
I recieved the spindles last night so except for a front diff drain plug i'm all set to put the front end on this weekend. The dust shields needed a bit of unbending, but i'm going to swap on the tundra shields to match the tundra calipers anyway so not a big deal.
The bearings and hub are in great shape and a test fit confirmed the tundra CVs fit like they should. i'll get some pics of the prep work on the spindles up tonight.
The bearings and hub are in great shape and a test fit confirmed the tundra CVs fit like they should. i'll get some pics of the prep work on the spindles up tonight.