wrecked SC'd 4runner
03-02-2005, 08:36 AM
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wrecked SC'd 4runner
Just saw this on autotrader.com, I've always wanted one like this; but I'm not sure if its worth the $$ and work required to fix a salvaged truck. They said it needs at least $1500 in body work + the air bags.
Here's the truck:
more pics: http://www.sperryauto.com/
I guess the frame is straight but it looks like it took a pretty hard hit.
What do you think, worth fixin for $8000-$8500?
Here's the truck:
more pics: http://www.sperryauto.com/
I guess the frame is straight but it looks like it took a pretty hard hit.
What do you think, worth fixin for $8000-$8500?
03-02-2005, 08:41 AM
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that dosnt look like that bad of a hit. you could prob get all the parts u needed at a salvage yard for 1500 or less, then u have to figure paint plus at least a few hours on a frame machine to make sure it IS straight. then the air bads wouild prob run close to a grand. you could tie up 10 or 11k in it real fast. Its possible to have the title reinstated also. Is it salvage-non rebuildable, or salvage-repairable. ask that about the title. If its rebuildable, then you could have it in tip top shape for under 12k I would say. if its non rebuildable, then it would never be worth what u spent on it again.
03-02-2005, 08:51 AM
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Yeah, thats what i was thinking since he was real quick to say he'd take 8000 for it. But since I just sold my 91 4runner for $4900, its quite a gap to bridge for the repairs involved.
Supposedly it is a salvage rebuilable title, & I'd have to have it transported from Ky, to MI so thats quite an expense too.
The idea of having an SC'd 4runner after the anemic 150hp 3.0 makes it tempting though.
Supposedly it is a salvage rebuilable title, & I'd have to have it transported from Ky, to MI so thats quite an expense too.
The idea of having an SC'd 4runner after the anemic 150hp 3.0 makes it tempting though.
03-02-2005, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 4what
Yeah, thats what i was thinking since he was real quick to say he'd take 8000 for it. But since I just sold my 91 4runner for $4900, its quite a gap to bridge for the repairs involved.
Supposedly it is a salvage rebuilable title, & I'd have to have it transported from Ky, to MI so thats quite an expense too.
The idea of having an SC'd 4runner after the anemic 150hp 3.0 makes it tempting though.
Supposedly it is a salvage rebuilable title, & I'd have to have it transported from Ky, to MI so thats quite an expense too.
The idea of having an SC'd 4runner after the anemic 150hp 3.0 makes it tempting though.
03-02-2005, 09:01 AM
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I would steer clear from it. That in no way is $1500 in body work. Rear quater panel, front quater, bumper, light, hood, grille, maybe the rear door. Maybe, just maybe $1500 if you get the parts at a salavge yard and have the knowledge and ability to paint them yourself. Airbags are not cheap either, all in all not a great deal imo.
Your better off buying stock and working up from there doing it right.
Your better off buying stock and working up from there doing it right.
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03-02-2005, 09:13 AM
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no way.
if it's salvage repairable title, take the loan value and divide by two. that's all it will EVER be worth AFTER it's fixed.
you have mostly cosmetic damage looking at the pics.
fender = $175
grill = $110
emblem = $40
SR5 flares = $400
headlight assembly = $290
side marker = $60
tjm or arb = $700
now add to that the frame time (5hrs @ $80/hr) $400, the labor to R&R and prep all that new sheet metal (40hrs @ $40/hr) $1600, and then the paint and materials to finish it out for another $500-600.
to take it somewhere to fix it, plan on at least $4300 to do what's only apparent from the one pic - NOT INCLUDING ANOTHER $1500-$2000 FOR THE AIRBAGS. if you can paint and do the R&R yourself, then you could get by with about $1500 in repairs. by the wheels, it's either a 99 or 2000. i assume that it's a 4wd w/ decent mileage, so loan value on it would be maybe $14k at best. That means after it's RESTORED, you should expect it to be worth only $7k. You're looking at a minimum of $3000 to do all the work yourself and to replace the bags, so I'd say he's asking about twice the market value unless you had a black 3rd gen sport model sitting in your back yard that was totaled from a rear-end hit and you could get all the parts w/ factory paint for free.
not only that, but that SC is a first gen model for the 3.4L, and with unknown mileage and condition is worth only $400-$500 at best. also note that the radiator hose looks crimped. that tells me either the PO was an idiot and starved his cooling system w/ a crimped hose, or it tells me that the front cowl that supports the radiator is pushed in quite a bit. if that's the case, then throw another $grand at the problem to fix that issue - and that's not really one you want to tackle in your garage on a saturday.
if it's salvage repairable title, take the loan value and divide by two. that's all it will EVER be worth AFTER it's fixed.
you have mostly cosmetic damage looking at the pics.
fender = $175
grill = $110
emblem = $40
SR5 flares = $400
headlight assembly = $290
side marker = $60
tjm or arb = $700
now add to that the frame time (5hrs @ $80/hr) $400, the labor to R&R and prep all that new sheet metal (40hrs @ $40/hr) $1600, and then the paint and materials to finish it out for another $500-600.
to take it somewhere to fix it, plan on at least $4300 to do what's only apparent from the one pic - NOT INCLUDING ANOTHER $1500-$2000 FOR THE AIRBAGS. if you can paint and do the R&R yourself, then you could get by with about $1500 in repairs. by the wheels, it's either a 99 or 2000. i assume that it's a 4wd w/ decent mileage, so loan value on it would be maybe $14k at best. That means after it's RESTORED, you should expect it to be worth only $7k. You're looking at a minimum of $3000 to do all the work yourself and to replace the bags, so I'd say he's asking about twice the market value unless you had a black 3rd gen sport model sitting in your back yard that was totaled from a rear-end hit and you could get all the parts w/ factory paint for free.
not only that, but that SC is a first gen model for the 3.4L, and with unknown mileage and condition is worth only $400-$500 at best. also note that the radiator hose looks crimped. that tells me either the PO was an idiot and starved his cooling system w/ a crimped hose, or it tells me that the front cowl that supports the radiator is pushed in quite a bit. if that's the case, then throw another $grand at the problem to fix that issue - and that's not really one you want to tackle in your garage on a saturday.
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03-02-2005, 09:35 AM
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No way that is worth anywhere near $8k, I would offer him the $4900 you got from yours and see if he bites.
If not, keep looking because that is not a good value (I understand the S/C gives you blinders).
....and that radiator is definately pushed in, look at the angle of the fan shroud in relation to the timing cover, big NG.
That thing needs closer to $3500-4000 worth of bodywork to get to like new again (even if you did it all yourself).
If not, keep looking because that is not a good value (I understand the S/C gives you blinders).
....and that radiator is definately pushed in, look at the angle of the fan shroud in relation to the timing cover, big NG.
That thing needs closer to $3500-4000 worth of bodywork to get to like new again (even if you did it all yourself).
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03-02-2005, 09:56 AM
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No way that is worth anywhere near $8k, I would offer him the $4900 you got from yours and see if he bites.
If not, keep looking because that is not a good value (I understand the S/C gives you blinders).
....and that radiator is definately pushed in, look at the angle of the fan shroud in relation to the timing cover, big NG.
That thing needs closer to $3500-4000 worth of bodywork to get to like new again.
If not, keep looking because that is not a good value (I understand the S/C gives you blinders).
....and that radiator is definately pushed in, look at the angle of the fan shroud in relation to the timing cover, big NG.
That thing needs closer to $3500-4000 worth of bodywork to get to like new again.
I agree, the front cowl is pushed in. Don't waste your time...
check these out:
these pics are of my runner in a fender bender recently. it needs new headlight buckets (not the complete assemblies, just the backing buckets) and it has scratched fenders, one fender needs the slightest body work. new sahara bar , new grill, new radiator, and new AC condensor along w/ repaint the hood to match the fenders and grill.
grand total according to the insurance adjuster is $4336 and change.
that one's got at least $7k in bodyshop repairs if you count in new bags at $1100 each...
03-02-2005, 11:10 AM
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Thanks for the insite. Those estimates are what I should have been thinking about, considering my VW gti Vr6 took over 6000 in repairs just from a minor rear impact, although they tend to charge quite a premium when the ins. co. is paying for it.
Looks like I'll keep on searching, I'm still undecided on whether I want another 4runner or a WRX wagon...
Looks like I'll keep on searching, I'm still undecided on whether I want another 4runner or a WRX wagon...
03-02-2005, 08:29 PM
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if your considering a WRX, my friend is selling his Wagon swap....
95 L wagon, RS front end, 02 WRX drive train, lots of mods. Think hes asking around 9k
its beat several modded WRXs, SRT-4, countless other turbo cars, and I beleive it ran a 8.30 in the 1/8th mile.
He has a Big 16g, STi injectors, Utec, and I think a larger intercooler that would be offered w/ the car for additional bling. Defaintly a sleeper.....
Shoot me a PM if your interested, and ill put you in touch with him, Its a bad ass ride.
95 L wagon, RS front end, 02 WRX drive train, lots of mods. Think hes asking around 9k
its beat several modded WRXs, SRT-4, countless other turbo cars, and I beleive it ran a 8.30 in the 1/8th mile.
He has a Big 16g, STi injectors, Utec, and I think a larger intercooler that would be offered w/ the car for additional bling. Defaintly a sleeper.....
Shoot me a PM if your interested, and ill put you in touch with him, Its a bad ass ride.
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03-02-2005, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bamachem
no way.
if it's salvage repairable title, take the loan value and divide by two. that's all it will EVER be worth AFTER it's fixed.
you have mostly cosmetic damage looking at the pics.
fender = $175
grill = $110
emblem = $40
SR5 flares = $400
headlight assembly = $290
side marker = $60
tjm or arb = $700
now add to that the frame time (5hrs @ $80/hr) $400, the labor to R&R and prep all that new sheet metal (40hrs @ $40/hr) $1600, and then the paint and materials to finish it out for another $500-600.
to take it somewhere to fix it, plan on at least $4300 to do what's only apparent from the one pic - NOT INCLUDING ANOTHER $1500-$2000 FOR THE AIRBAGS. if you can paint and do the R&R yourself, then you could get by with about $1500 in repairs. by the wheels, it's either a 99 or 2000. i assume that it's a 4wd w/ decent mileage, so loan value on it would be maybe $14k at best. That means after it's RESTORED, you should expect it to be worth only $7k. You're looking at a minimum of $3000 to do all the work yourself and to replace the bags, so I'd say he's asking about twice the market value unless you had a black 3rd gen sport model sitting in your back yard that was totaled from a rear-end hit and you could get all the parts w/ factory paint for free.
not only that, but that SC is a first gen model for the 3.4L, and with unknown mileage and condition is worth only $400-$500 at best. also note that the radiator hose looks crimped. that tells me either the PO was an idiot and starved his cooling system w/ a crimped hose, or it tells me that the front cowl that supports the radiator is pushed in quite a bit. if that's the case, then throw another $grand at the problem to fix that issue - and that's not really one you want to tackle in your garage on a saturday.
if it's salvage repairable title, take the loan value and divide by two. that's all it will EVER be worth AFTER it's fixed.
you have mostly cosmetic damage looking at the pics.
fender = $175
grill = $110
emblem = $40
SR5 flares = $400
headlight assembly = $290
side marker = $60
tjm or arb = $700
now add to that the frame time (5hrs @ $80/hr) $400, the labor to R&R and prep all that new sheet metal (40hrs @ $40/hr) $1600, and then the paint and materials to finish it out for another $500-600.
to take it somewhere to fix it, plan on at least $4300 to do what's only apparent from the one pic - NOT INCLUDING ANOTHER $1500-$2000 FOR THE AIRBAGS. if you can paint and do the R&R yourself, then you could get by with about $1500 in repairs. by the wheels, it's either a 99 or 2000. i assume that it's a 4wd w/ decent mileage, so loan value on it would be maybe $14k at best. That means after it's RESTORED, you should expect it to be worth only $7k. You're looking at a minimum of $3000 to do all the work yourself and to replace the bags, so I'd say he's asking about twice the market value unless you had a black 3rd gen sport model sitting in your back yard that was totaled from a rear-end hit and you could get all the parts w/ factory paint for free.
not only that, but that SC is a first gen model for the 3.4L, and with unknown mileage and condition is worth only $400-$500 at best. also note that the radiator hose looks crimped. that tells me either the PO was an idiot and starved his cooling system w/ a crimped hose, or it tells me that the front cowl that supports the radiator is pushed in quite a bit. if that's the case, then throw another $grand at the problem to fix that issue - and that's not really one you want to tackle in your garage on a saturday.
REAL SHAME .. LOOKS LIKE IT WAS REAL NICE RUNNER
03-03-2005, 06:11 PM
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Just by looking at the front end pics (can't get to the others) plus airbags and related components you're looking at $8k minimum since the bags alone will run $3000-$3500 new (NEVER BUY USED BAGS). If you're lucky and can find a RT 3/4 front clip then you might save ~$1k but those are hard to find since most yards won't cut a clip for a newer vehicle: PIA and more money for the entire clip. Then add Bama's est for frame time and we haven't even touched any possible suspension damage yet.
Do as the Monty Python crew says and "Run away!!!"
On the plus someone will get a nice parts truck with full drivetrain, interior and possible rear locker!
Do as the Monty Python crew says and "Run away!!!"
On the plus someone will get a nice parts truck with full drivetrain, interior and possible rear locker!
03-03-2005, 07:27 PM
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NOT WORTH IT AT ALL my dad paid i think $6k for his 01 salvaged runner...you cant even tell its wrecked unless you look at the ENTIRE NEW FRONT CLIP..straight frame...perfect besides a few things..the guy that owned the runner fixed it..than he got in a fender bender and sold it for jack shize
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