WoW Shocks

MY024runner · 04-20-2004, 09:23 AM

Sorry everyone just thought I'd try to get your attention. I was wondering about some shocks for a 2002 v-6 4runner 5vzfe. The only ones I know of are gabriel,tokico,bilstein.are there any more availiable out there? What do you guys think are the best as of ride not to bouncy like stock over all. Which shocks you guys recomend. I want some shocks just for a daily driver no off road or for a lift. I just want to replace my stock shocks that bounce the 4runner up in down every little bump. My kids are always bouncing around too much. Just anyone that can help on expierience on shocks ride brands for normal driving or suggestion would be nice.

to all in advance.

Jboy · 04-20-2004, 09:36 AM

You already mentioned them, BILSTEINS.

Jonathan · 04-20-2004, 09:37 AM

The Bilstein's will probably be your best bet for ride comfort, not to mention quality and durability.

MY024runner · 04-20-2004, 09:41 AM

Thanks for the replies. What do you guys think about the tokico's? Are bilsteins made in usa or are they foreign? Thanks in advance

boogyman · 04-20-2004, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by flips4runner

Thanks for the replies. What do you guys think about the tokico's? Are bilsteins made in usa or are they foreign? Thanks in advance

bilstein = german (what sounds more german than bilstein?!? i guess you gotta do it in a schwartzenegger voice or something..)

Gadget · 04-20-2004, 10:44 AM

Schwartzenegger is not German. His voice is NOT German, not even close.

Many Bilstein shocks are made here in the US.

Gadget

shazaam · 04-20-2004, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadget

Schwartzenegger is not German. His voice is NOT German, not even close.

Gadget

ha ha ha ... hes austrian

Gadget · 04-20-2004, 10:49 AM

Nope, the last time I checked he was AMERICAN.

Gadget

shazaam · 04-20-2004, 10:52 AM

Hes originally from austria .. otherwise in 4 yrs it would President Schwartzenegger

MY024runner · 04-20-2004, 11:14 AM

that was funny you guys

thanks for responding and info

MY024runner · 04-20-2004, 11:16 AM

BTW Are TRD shock really bilsteins? :pat:

Gadget · 04-20-2004, 11:26 AM

Yes, but they are not the same as the aftermarket Bilsteins.

They TRD ones are very Spindly. If you see them and compare them to the aftermarket ones you will be amazed at the difference.

I have spoken directly to Bilstein about this and they swear that if both shocks are put on a shock dyno there will be very little difference between the two.

Now, with that said, I will say that it does not appear to be the case in real life. The guys with the TRD Tacomas all say that the TRD Bilsteins suck and many replace them in short order with aftermarket Bilsteins or something else.

I had aftermarket Bilsteins on my truck for over 100,000 miles and they were just starting to loosen up. It is a very nice shock. Some however complain about the stiff ride. If that is your greatest concern then aftermarket Bilsteins are not for you. They are a tad stiffer then stock, but give you loads more control which is very important to me.

Gadget

miked · 04-20-2004, 12:22 PM

Hmm... My 2004 TRD Tacoma came with blue Tokico shocks. not Bilstein.

When I had my 2000 4Runner I installed Monroe SensaTrac shocks. A world of difference over the stock Tokico. Can't compare them to Bils. but I thought they were just right for the 4Runner (95% onroad use).

Gadget · 04-20-2004, 12:26 PM

You must have a Double Cab. Bilsteins do not come on the Double Cab TRD trucks.

Gadget

X-AWDriver · 04-20-2004, 12:53 PM

I just installed Bils/OEM springs and the ride is a just a bit stiffer than my mom's '99 Limited with 50k on it and they get rid of the "floaty" feeling the stocks shocks will exhibit at speeds above 70mph;much more control with buffeting winds too.

ruizs · 04-20-2004, 03:30 PM

Lotsa people love their OME shocks. Rancho makes shocks for the 4th gen too - I have them, and I wouldn't recommend them. Wanna buy a set?

boogyman · 04-20-2004, 03:58 PM

yeah, i know the governator is austrian, but his voice just sounds good for german things..

3.4Runner · 04-20-2004, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadget

Yes, but they are not the same as the aftermarket Bilsteins.

They TRD ones are very Spindly. If you see them and compare them to the aftermarket ones you will be amazed at the difference.

I have spoken directly to Bilstein about this and they swear that if both shocks are put on a shock dyno there will be very little difference between the two.

Now, with that said, I will say that it does not appear to be the case in real life. The guys with the TRD Tacomas all say that the TRD Bilsteins suck and many replace them in short order with aftermarket Bilsteins or something else.

I had aftermarket Bilsteins on my truck for over 100,000 miles and they were just starting to loosen up. It is a very nice shock. Some however complain about the stiff ride. If that is your greatest concern then aftermarket Bilsteins are not for you. They are a tad stiffer then stock, but give you loads more control which is very important to me.

Gadget

Yup, Bilsteins rock

Put them on with 15K on my truck and made a world of difference, less body roll, better handling, better control in high cross winds, and excellent off road.

For the 4Runner, there is no difference between TRD and aftermarket Bilsteins...or at least that was the concensus a few years ago after much discussion and part no references.

For the Tacoma, there is a huge difference...the TRD tacoma comes with TRD Bilsteins (double cab comes with tokico) and it is quite obvious just by looking at the shock body that the TRD Bilstein is much thinner. From my experience, the TRD Tacoma bilstein shock has a softer ride compared to the aftermarket bilsteins.

Back to the original question, get the bilsteins...can't go wrong, great shock with lifetime warranty.

MY024runner · 04-20-2004, 09:18 PM

Thanks fellas for the insights and info. I will definitelt get bilsteins. I was wondering would I need anything else like bushings or anything or would I bee ok with just the bilsteins for normal driving 100% of my driving time? Thanks in advance . You guys were a very excellent help in my decision.

MY024runner · 04-21-2004, 01:53 AM

Does anyone have these shocks TREK MASTER R/T shocks. Came across it in the internet and wanted to know if they were crappy or pretty good? But I am leaning still on bilsteins. Just wanted to know.Thanks in advance

JMT529 · 04-21-2004, 10:53 AM

Are these the Bilsteins you guys would recommend for a 3rd Gen 4runner? Is that a good price or do local stores usually sell for around that price as well? One last question. How long and how much should I expect to pay a shop to install these? Thanks.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

X-AWDriver · 04-21-2004, 12:18 PM

You might be able to get them a little cheaper buying them at a Checkers/Autozone and not pay shipping.
I got mine at www.shox.com for $282 shipped.

04-20-2004, 09:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
MY024runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 239	WoW Shocks Sorry everyone just thought I'd try to get your attention. I was wondering about some shocks for a 2002 v-6 4runner 5vzfe. The only ones I know of are gabriel,tokico,bilstein.are there any more availiable out there? What do you guys think are the best as of ride not to bouncy like stock over all. Which shocks you guys recomend. I want some shocks just for a daily driver no off road or for a lift. I just want to replace my stock shocks that bounce the 4runner up in down every little bump. My kids are always bouncing around too much. Just anyone that can help on expierience on shocks ride brands for normal driving or suggestion would be nice. to all in advance.

04-20-2004, 09:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jboy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hawaiian Islands Posts: 393	You already mentioned them, BILSTEINS. __________________ 2000 4Runner 2" lift, not Frankenstruts, OME 906 rear springs/OME shocks MT/R 285/75R16 on AR Atlas 16x8 Offroad Solutions Manual Hubs kit

04-20-2004, 09:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jonathan Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 1,745	The Bilstein's will probably be your best bet for ride comfort, not to mention quality and durability. __________________ 1996 Black 4Runner V6 5 speed 4X4\| Retrofitted E-Locker\| SAW's\| LC coils and Doetschtech shocks\| ATS arms \| 285 Goodyear MTR's\|TJM T-15 With Warn M8000\|Retrofitted Toyota Hood Scoop\| Stubbs Sliders\|Bushwacker Extend-A-Fender Flares\| Extended rear diff breather\| Uniden 510XL CB w/ 4 Ft. Firestik II Antenna\|Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler\|Black headlights and corners\| More to come... 2007 VW GTI 6 Speed

04-20-2004, 10:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
Gadget Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southern MD USA Posts: 1,569	Schwartzenegger is not German. His voice is NOT German, not even close. Many Bilstein shocks are made here in the US. Gadget __________________ Underdog Racing Development GadgetOnline

04-20-2004, 10:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
Gadget Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southern MD USA Posts: 1,569	Nope, the last time I checked he was AMERICAN. Gadget __________________ Underdog Racing Development GadgetOnline

04-20-2004, 09:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
MY024runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 239	Thanks for the replies. What do you guys think about the tokico's? Are bilsteins made in usa or are they foreign? Thanks in advance

04-20-2004, 10:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,080	Hes originally from austria .. otherwise in 4 yrs it would President Schwartzenegger __________________ Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, and the lesson afterwards. <-- the artist formerly known as sdastg1

04-20-2004, 11:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
MY024runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 239	that was funny you guys thanks for responding and info

04-20-2004, 11:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
MY024runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 239	BTW Are TRD shock really bilsteins? :pat:

04-20-2004, 11:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
Gadget Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southern MD USA Posts: 1,569	Yes, but they are not the same as the aftermarket Bilsteins. They TRD ones are very Spindly. If you see them and compare them to the aftermarket ones you will be amazed at the difference. I have spoken directly to Bilstein about this and they swear that if both shocks are put on a shock dyno there will be very little difference between the two. Now, with that said, I will say that it does not appear to be the case in real life. The guys with the TRD Tacomas all say that the TRD Bilsteins suck and many replace them in short order with aftermarket Bilsteins or something else. I had aftermarket Bilsteins on my truck for over 100,000 miles and they were just starting to loosen up. It is a very nice shock. Some however complain about the stiff ride. If that is your greatest concern then aftermarket Bilsteins are not for you. They are a tad stiffer then stock, but give you loads more control which is very important to me. Gadget __________________ Underdog Racing Development GadgetOnline

04-20-2004, 12:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
miked Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 98	Hmm... My 2004 TRD Tacoma came with blue Tokico shocks. not Bilstein. When I had my 2000 4Runner I installed Monroe SensaTrac shocks. A world of difference over the stock Tokico. Can't compare them to Bils. but I thought they were just right for the 4Runner (95% onroad use). __________________ -Mike D. 1992 4Runner SR5 2000 4Runner SR5 (sold) 2004 Tacoma D-Cab Limited TRD www.urbanwheeler.com

04-20-2004, 12:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
Gadget Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southern MD USA Posts: 1,569	You must have a Double Cab. Bilsteins do not come on the Double Cab TRD trucks. Gadget __________________ Underdog Racing Development GadgetOnline

04-20-2004, 12:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 9,501	I just installed Bils/OEM springs and the ride is a just a bit stiffer than my mom's '99 Limited with 50k on it and they get rid of the "floaty" feeling the stocks shocks will exhibit at speeds above 70mph;much more control with buffeting winds too. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

04-20-2004, 03:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
ruizs Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 211	Lotsa people love their OME shocks. Rancho makes shocks for the 4th gen too - I have them, and I wouldn't recommend them. Wanna buy a set?

04-20-2004, 03:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
boogyman Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 658	yeah, i know the governator is austrian, but his voice just sounds good for german things.. __________________ 2000 V6 TRD 5spd \| 1.5" body lift; 2.5" sus lift: SAWs, 8leaf deavers, downey shackles, bilstein 5125s, 32" BFG AT's \| Magnaflow 18" muffler, Hella 500s, bentup sliders, polar bear guards, aluminum diamondplate skidplate, clear corners & bumper lenses, tonneau cover \| deckplate mod, disable DRL mod, greywire mod, extended diff breather, clutch pedal mod

04-20-2004, 09:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
MY024runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 239	Thanks fellas for the insights and info. I will definitelt get bilsteins. I was wondering would I need anything else like bushings or anything or would I bee ok with just the bilsteins for normal driving 100% of my driving time? Thanks in advance . You guys were a very excellent help in my decision.

04-21-2004, 01:53 AM	#20 (permalink)
MY024runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 239	Does anyone have these shocks TREK MASTER R/T shocks. Came across it in the internet and wanted to know if they were crappy or pretty good? But I am leaning still on bilsteins. Just wanted to know.Thanks in advance

04-21-2004, 10:53 AM	#21 (permalink)
JMT529 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 98	Are these the Bilsteins you guys would recommend for a 3rd Gen 4runner? Is that a good price or do local stores usually sell for around that price as well? One last question. How long and how much should I expect to pay a shop to install these? Thanks. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

04-21-2004, 12:18 PM	#22 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 9,501	You might be able to get them a little cheaper buying them at a Checkers/Autozone and not pay shipping. I got mine at www.shox.com for $282 shipped. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub