Winch ?

lrsu · 03-21-2004, 05:54 AM

I need advice on buying a winch. Due to the budget I will have to go with 1. Ramsey REP 8.5 or 2. MileMarker 9000, I can get both for about the same price give or take a few $. The Ramsey is about 58lb. vs the MileMarker at about 83lb. I can get the Ramsey at a local dealer but it will cost me about $28.00 more than if I order over the net. Net price is 1.Ramsey 457.00 w/shipping the 2. MileMarker is 449.00 w/shipping or local dealer price is 472.00 and thats on the Ramsey. Witch one?

THANKS! BTW this is going on my 1994 SR5 4-RUNNER!

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shazaam · 03-21-2004, 05:56 AM

or you could do warn m8000 for $499 w/free shipping from 4wheelparts.

good luck

Hyperlite · 03-21-2004, 06:16 AM

I have a Inch Marker 8K winch. It is slow, but seem to work fine. My trails are mainly silt with deep water/mud crossings that are over the hood and winching is a must every 5 minutes. My winch worked fine for a wile then It quit free spooling but everything else worked. I rebuilt it and some silt bonded to the gears inside the winch. Now it over heats when I take it in. I think the selenods are filled with mud. I put the selenoids behind the airbox under the hood and I guess after a deep crossing the control box filled up. That could happen with all winches I guess, if that's what's wrong. Ramsey has a history of sucking majorly and overheat quickly. I have seen some old 9K ramsey bite the dust quickly and one mounted to a trailer almost burnt up putting my bronco on it. If I had to do it again I would go with warn.

Also my Mile Marker came with 100ft of cable that frequently rubed the inside of my TJM bumper so I upgraded to a smaller diameter 95ft plasma winch rope

lrsu · 03-21-2004, 06:16 AM

Is there that much dif. in the 8000lb. vs. 8500lb. vs. 9000lb. with the wt. of the 4-Runner wouldn't the 9000lb MileMarker be better? I have read good things about the MileMarker, I'm just not sure.

lrsu · 03-21-2004, 06:22 AM

I also failed to say that I won't be using the winch that often, I really don't do any trail riding to speek of, mostly deer hunting and that kind of thing. If I was going to be on the trail every weekend I would go with a Warn 9000 or something made for alot of heavy use. I really need a just in case winch.

shazaam · 03-21-2004, 07:11 AM

From what I've read here there are vey few people who really winchevery weekend. Most have only used their winchs once maybe twice. and everyone has said that the M8000 with or without a snatch block is more then sufficient

lrsu · 03-21-2004, 07:28 AM

I just called 4wheelparts to order the Warn 8000, when they say free shipping they forgot to tell you about the $29.99 crate charge! so the 499.00 go's to $528.99 just like that, its still a good price but over my budget! They have the Mile Marker 9000 for $449.00 but still tack on the $29.99 crate charge. To Bad!

shazaam · 03-21-2004, 07:31 AM

When I ordered mine from then about a month ago it was a winch, lifetime warranty, some tow straps, some hooks all for $529. The $30 crating fee was included in the price. Try ordering off their wiebsite and see if it still charges a crating fee.

lrsu · 03-21-2004, 07:33 AM

I did, It did! I may still order it.

Gadget · 03-21-2004, 07:40 AM

I got my M-8000 from Clemson 4 wheel drive for 499 shipped with no sneak charges.

$28 to put a lable on a box is a rip off.

Gadget

shazaam · 03-21-2004, 07:40 AM

Dude that sucks. That crating fee is crap. They literally put the box on a pallate and wrap it in plastic and ship it. Thats the crating fee. It probably cost about $30 to ship it. So its a scam.

But still if the difference is $30-40 I would still go warn over the other ones. Thats just me.

shazaam · 03-21-2004, 07:45 AM

hey they have an option the 4wheelparts page that says "beat my price" .. see if they will drop the price for you if you tell them about the offer that gadget has on there

Hyperlite · 03-21-2004, 08:06 AM

I got mine from 4wheel parts and it was $450, but I saw a rebate for $50. They told me to call Mile Marker for my $50 check and MM had know idea what I was talking about. 4wheel parts didn't want to give me my $50. I told them I was gonna return it and I used it already the first night in the mud. They said it would be a $50 restocking fee. I told them to pull my record of previous items that have come from my house (2 Runners, FJ40 and Bronco) and said that I would never do business unless this was fixed today. So I faxed the rebate to them and went and got my money.

92 Toyota · 03-21-2004, 08:38 AM

I have a Ramsey REP8000E & have seen pictures of a MileMarker E8000 they both look to be the same winch only one is black(M/M) one grey(Ramsey).Same solenoid box,same hand held controller,same type of freespool lever.Everything looked identical.

Hyperlite · 03-21-2004, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 92 Toyota

I have a Ramsey REP8000E & have seen pictures of a MileMarker E8000 they both look to be the same winch only one is black(M/M) one grey(Ramsey).Same solenoid box,same hand held controller,same type of freespool lever.Everything looked identical.

I was looking in a Harbor Freight cataloge and saw a Chicago Electric winch. It looked exactly like my Mile Marker 8K but a little cheeper.

I think it is a conspiricy

92 Toyota · 03-21-2004, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyperlite

I was looking in a Harbor Freight cataloge and saw a Chicago Electric winch. It looked exactly like my Mile Marker 8K but a little cheeper.

I think it is a conspiricy

$299.99

lrsu · 03-22-2004, 09:34 AM

I ordered a Mile Marker 9000 from www.justliftkits.com it was $449.00 w/shipping and crate charge. I think it will do fine for my needs. The guys over there use what they sell so I feel goo about buying from them. Thanks for all of your help!

03-21-2004, 05:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,021	or you could do warn m8000 for $499 w/free shipping from 4wheelparts. good luck __________________ The artist formerly known as sdastg1

03-21-2004, 06:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hyperlite Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mooresville (Lake Norman) NC Posts: 1,038	I have a Inch Marker 8K winch. It is slow, but seem to work fine. My trails are mainly silt with deep water/mud crossings that are over the hood and winching is a must every 5 minutes. My winch worked fine for a wile then It quit free spooling but everything else worked. I rebuilt it and some silt bonded to the gears inside the winch. Now it over heats when I take it in. I think the selenods are filled with mud. I put the selenoids behind the airbox under the hood and I guess after a deep crossing the control box filled up. That could happen with all winches I guess, if that's what's wrong. Ramsey has a history of sucking majorly and overheat quickly. I have seen some old 9K ramsey bite the dust quickly and one mounted to a trailer almost burnt up putting my bronco on it. If I had to do it again I would go with warn. Also my Mile Marker came with 100ft of cable that frequently rubed the inside of my TJM bumper so I upgraded to a smaller diameter 95ft plasma winch rope __________________ 97 4Runner Limited Chopped SAS 50 John Boat 69 Bronco Half Cab إن شاء الله

03-21-2004, 06:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
lrsu Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 29	Is there that much dif. in the 8000lb. vs. 8500lb. vs. 9000lb. with the wt. of the 4-Runner wouldn't the 9000lb MileMarker be better? I have read good things about the MileMarker, I'm just not sure. Last edited by lrsu; 03-21-2004 at 07:16 AM.

03-21-2004, 07:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,021	From what I've read here there are vey few people who really winchevery weekend. Most have only used their winchs once maybe twice. and everyone has said that the M8000 with or without a snatch block is more then sufficient __________________ The artist formerly known as sdastg1

03-21-2004, 07:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,021	When I ordered mine from then about a month ago it was a winch, lifetime warranty, some tow straps, some hooks all for $529. The $30 crating fee was included in the price. Try ordering off their wiebsite and see if it still charges a crating fee. __________________ The artist formerly known as sdastg1

03-21-2004, 06:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
lrsu Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 29	I also failed to say that I won't be using the winch that often, I really don't do any trail riding to speek of, mostly deer hunting and that kind of thing. If I was going to be on the trail every weekend I would go with a Warn 9000 or something made for alot of heavy use. I really need a just in case winch.

03-21-2004, 07:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
lrsu Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 29	I just called 4wheelparts to order the Warn 8000, when they say free shipping they forgot to tell you about the $29.99 crate charge! so the 499.00 go's to $528.99 just like that, its still a good price but over my budget! They have the Mile Marker 9000 for $449.00 but still tack on the $29.99 crate charge. To Bad!

03-21-2004, 07:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
lrsu Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 29	I did, It did! I may still order it.

03-21-2004, 07:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
Gadget Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southern MD USA Posts: 1,539	I got my M-8000 from Clemson 4 wheel drive for 499 shipped with no sneak charges. $28 to put a lable on a box is a rip off. Gadget __________________ Underdog Racing Development GadgetOnline

03-21-2004, 07:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,021	Dude that sucks. That crating fee is crap. They literally put the box on a pallate and wrap it in plastic and ship it. Thats the crating fee. It probably cost about $30 to ship it. So its a scam. But still if the difference is $30-40 I would still go warn over the other ones. Thats just me. __________________ The artist formerly known as sdastg1

03-21-2004, 07:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
shazaam Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,021	hey they have an option the 4wheelparts page that says "beat my price" .. see if they will drop the price for you if you tell them about the offer that gadget has on there __________________ The artist formerly known as sdastg1

03-21-2004, 08:06 AM	#13 (permalink)
Hyperlite Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mooresville (Lake Norman) NC Posts: 1,038	I got mine from 4wheel parts and it was $450, but I saw a rebate for $50. They told me to call Mile Marker for my $50 check and MM had know idea what I was talking about. 4wheel parts didn't want to give me my $50. I told them I was gonna return it and I used it already the first night in the mud. They said it would be a $50 restocking fee. I told them to pull my record of previous items that have come from my house (2 Runners, FJ40 and Bronco) and said that I would never do business unless this was fixed today. So I faxed the rebate to them and went and got my money. __________________ 97 4Runner Limited Chopped SAS 50 John Boat 69 Bronco Half Cab إن شاء الله

03-21-2004, 08:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
92 Toyota Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 210	I have a Ramsey REP8000E & have seen pictures of a MileMarker E8000 they both look to be the same winch only one is black(M/M) one grey(Ramsey).Same solenoid box,same hand held controller,same type of freespool lever.Everything looked identical.

03-22-2004, 09:34 AM	#17 (permalink)
lrsu Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 29	I ordered a Mile Marker 9000 from www.justliftkits.com it was $449.00 w/shipping and crate charge. I think it will do fine for my needs. The guys over there use what they sell so I feel goo about buying from them. Thanks for all of your help!

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