Why are they rubbing?

Gangus2006 · 11-14-2004, 02:13 PM

Im currently running 265/75R16 on a 16x8 with a 4.5" backspacing. Whenever I turn full lock right, I hear this awful scraping noise...I cant seem to find where its rubbing...

Can someone point me towards where its rubbing and how I would resolve it?

PS...this is the second season that the tires are used, except last season they were mounted on stock wheels, and no scraping then...

Marc M · 11-14-2004, 02:25 PM

With the 265/75/16's mounted on my 16x8 rims, the tires rubbed on the mudflap screws. A 2 inch lift fixed the problem...

Marc

jimbo74 · 11-15-2004, 03:25 AM

its the offset on your rims

Flamedx4 · 11-15-2004, 12:00 PM

I hate to say this...but.... is there some reason you can't just LOOK under there and SEE where they rub?....

Flygtenstein · 11-15-2004, 12:02 PM

They rub because something is located in the arc in which they need to travel.

I learned in Metaphysics that having two coexistent entities occupying the same place at the same time is not possible, so your report of rubbing confirms this.

Sadly, there are only two resolutions. Either consult a Metaphysician so you can thrawt this law of nature, or apply a cutting utensil of your choice.

Flamedx4 · 11-15-2004, 12:33 PM

[Sadly, there are only two resolutions.]

or smaller tires, or more lift, or don't turn so sharp...

lagwagon7 · 11-15-2004, 01:27 PM

or some nice fiberglass flares

Gangus2006 · 11-15-2004, 01:51 PM

Well, like I said, I cant find where its rubbing...If only I know where its rubbing Id bust out the Dremel.

I cant afford, more like I dont want, smaller tires. I certainly cant afford the lift that I want. ANd I cant afford the FIberglass Flares, and my truck has OE flares...

GRRRR...This is pissing me off...WHere does it usually rub? I dont have mudflaps...Is there a trick to finding the where the rub is???

Flygtenstein · 11-15-2004, 03:45 PM

Since the wit was wasted, here is a trick.

If it is rubbing enough to make a big noise, then there should be scuffs on the tire and on the truck. To help, you might try driving through mud and then seeing where the mud rubs off.

If you park on flat ground, turn the wheel to full lock and then shut the truck off and get out, you can then imagine where the tire might go when it compresses and then look for scuffs.

Cebby · 11-15-2004, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flygtenstein

They rub because something is located in the arc in which they need to travel.

I learned in Metaphysics that having two coexistent entities occupying the same place at the same time is not possible, so your report of rubbing confirms this.

Sadly, there are only two resolutions. Either consult a Metaphysician so you can thrawt this law of nature, or apply a cutting utensil of your choice.

Thanks for the chuckle. I've got rubbing too. I figured it out by stopping the vehicle WHILE IT WAS RUBBING and having a look under the truck.

It's all rusty and greasy under there....yuk!

I need to trim my fender/flare where it meets the door. It only rubs when I turn really sharp and backup -- so I try not to do that.

Darx · 11-15-2004, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gangus2006

Well, like I said, I cant find where its rubbing...If only I know where its rubbing Id bust out the Dremel.

I cant afford, more like I dont want, smaller tires. I certainly cant afford the lift that I want. ANd I cant afford the FIberglass Flares, and my truck has OE flares...

GRRRR...This is pissing me off...WHere does it usually rub? I dont have mudflaps...Is there a trick to finding the where the rub is???

Places to look. I used to rub on the street with 285s and and 2" of lift.

Check the front edge of the valence for wear.
Check the bolts that hold on the mudflaps for wear.
Check the plastic clip(s), if you have them, that hold on the mudflaps
Check the flares at the very bottom door edge for wear.
Try a wheel spacer or something to reduce the back spacing a little.
Check the tires as metion for wear or cuts. If they exist line it up full lock right and see what could be rubbing.
Bang out you pinch welds.
Bang out anything that looks like it might be hitting.
Bang your head! Metal health will drive you mad!

Just turning your steering to full lock right while it's parked shyoudl show you easily what's going on. If nothing looks to be hitting get underneath and look at it that way from the back of the tire. Get a friend to try compressing the front end down a little and see if that shows anything. Usually turning causes the truck to lean a little even when parked so check out the driver's side with a little more patience.

Flamedx4 · 11-15-2004, 11:29 PM

Have someone hold the wheel at full lock while you look. If you turn the wheel all the way and shut it down the wheels spring back a bit. Even so, you can eyeball what comes closest. Most likely is the fender liner over the pinch weld with that small a tire.

sschaefer3 · 11-16-2004, 04:34 AM

Is it your Tacoma or 4Runner. They are COMPLETELY different. It is impossible to run 315's with 2" susp and 1" body on a Tacoma. But I do on a 4Runner.

They are not the same vehicle and can not do the same things.

sschaefer3 · 11-16-2004, 04:36 AM

Looks like a 4Runner with Limited flares. Not much you can do. Live with it until you get a lift.

turboale · 11-16-2004, 06:16 AM

Limited flares? Its most likely the flares... My 285s rub with a 2.5" lift, thats why I have a 4crawler box sitting right next to me. Too bad I don't see it being used til after finals

Just get a 1" body lift and you should be in the clear. RBs should be just over $100.

C'mon man, peer pressure!!

11-14-2004, 02:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gangus2006 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fitchburg, MA Posts: 1,111	Why are they rubbing? Im currently running 265/75R16 on a 16x8 with a 4.5" backspacing. Whenever I turn full lock right, I hear this awful scraping noise...I cant seem to find where its rubbing... Can someone point me towards where its rubbing and how I would resolve it? PS...this is the second season that the tires are used, except last season they were mounted on stock wheels, and no scraping then...

11-14-2004, 02:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Marc M Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Washington, Pennsylvania Posts: 16	With the 265/75/16's mounted on my 16x8 rims, the tires rubbed on the mudflap screws. A 2 inch lift fixed the problem... Marc __________________ '06 Tacoma Dbl-cab, 4X4, V6, 6-spd, SR5/TRD Off Road.... '90 4Runner 4X4 SR5 5-Spd '86 Shortbed 4X4 5-Spd, SAS'd ASAP '82 Supra 5-Spd Take your automatic and "Stick" it........ My Web Album in Progress

11-15-2004, 12:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,286	I hate to say this...but.... is there some reason you can't just LOOK under there and SEE where they rub?.... __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

11-15-2004, 12:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,286	[Sadly, there are only two resolutions.] or smaller tires, or more lift, or don't turn so sharp... __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

11-15-2004, 01:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
lagwagon7 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 22	or some nice fiberglass flares __________________ 1997 4Runner SR5, 4x4, Black, 3.4L, Automatic, Goodyear MTRs (305/70/R16), Revtek 3" spacers, Rockcrawler series 91s, Poweraid throttle body spacer, Optima red-top, Total Chaos 1" diff drop, Energy polyurethane steering bushings, Downey neoprene CV boots, No front swaybar, Sony CD, and a huge wish list . . .

11-15-2004, 03:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
jimbo74 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nor*Cal Posts: 6,592	its the offset on your rims

11-15-2004, 12:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Flygtenstein Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 4,257	They rub because something is located in the arc in which they need to travel. I learned in Metaphysics that having two coexistent entities occupying the same place at the same time is not possible, so your report of rubbing confirms this. Sadly, there are only two resolutions. Either consult a Metaphysician so you can thrawt this law of nature, or apply a cutting utensil of your choice.

11-15-2004, 01:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
Gangus2006 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fitchburg, MA Posts: 1,111	Well, like I said, I cant find where its rubbing...If only I know where its rubbing Id bust out the Dremel. I cant afford, more like I dont want, smaller tires. I certainly cant afford the lift that I want. ANd I cant afford the FIberglass Flares, and my truck has OE flares... GRRRR...This is pissing me off...WHere does it usually rub? I dont have mudflaps...Is there a trick to finding the where the rub is???

11-15-2004, 03:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
Flygtenstein Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 4,257	Since the wit was wasted, here is a trick. If it is rubbing enough to make a big noise, then there should be scuffs on the tire and on the truck. To help, you might try driving through mud and then seeing where the mud rubs off. If you park on flat ground, turn the wheel to full lock and then shut the truck off and get out, you can then imagine where the tire might go when it compresses and then look for scuffs.

11-15-2004, 11:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,286	Have someone hold the wheel at full lock while you look. If you turn the wheel all the way and shut it down the wheels spring back a bit. Even so, you can eyeball what comes closest. Most likely is the fender liner over the pinch weld with that small a tire. __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

11-16-2004, 04:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,461	Is it your Tacoma or 4Runner. They are COMPLETELY different. It is impossible to run 315's with 2" susp and 1" body on a Tacoma. But I do on a 4Runner. They are not the same vehicle and can not do the same things. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

11-16-2004, 04:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,461	Looks like a 4Runner with Limited flares. Not much you can do. Live with it until you get a lift. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

11-16-2004, 06:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
turboale Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 4,808	Limited flares? Its most likely the flares... My 285s rub with a 2.5" lift, thats why I have a 4crawler box sitting right next to me. Too bad I don't see it being used til after finals Just get a 1" body lift and you should be in the clear. RBs should be just over $100. C'mon man, peer pressure!! __________________ --Austin 06 M45 Sport - Beauty 96 4Runner - The Beast

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